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Destati

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  1. I will be the person being invisible because I'm not going. Even if I win with my Dusknoir/Bronzong/Zapdos/Garchomp team I'll be in Japan all of July so I can't do the Nationals. On the bright side, I should be able to get the 2009 Tanabata Jirachi before all of yaz! (yes, I'll backup my save file before I retrieve the Jirachi ingame)
  2. Yeah, I guess Damio is a pretty cool guy. eh knows about trashbytes and doesn't afraid of anything.
  3. So... now what? This thread originally started as a way to show users the standard rules that everyone plays with. Smogon's never going to just be "satisfied" with the metagame. But even with their size they can only do so much at once. They talked about testing multiple things at a time, but its just not possible, even with two seperate ladders. All we can do is wait it out. The remaining things that need to be tested are suspect. That doesn't mean they're going to make them all legal (in terms of OU play) just because there's a shread of doubt in their minds. They were illegal/uber, and they're going to stay in their respective category until they can get to them. However, do not expect much change. The only suspect that might have a compelling arguement is Manaphy, but even thats iffy. Here's what I think: Latias with Soul Dew - This thing is naturally banned. Latias is most often used as a sweeper rather than a tank, and the sp. atk bonus would just set it over the limit. Evasion Clause - Never going to happen. Nothing changed in terms of Evasion from RBY to now. The only thing that has changed is the implementation of more perfect accuracy moves, all of which are below 60 power besides Aura Sphere (Only three non-uber Pokemon can learn that and they are all OU) Manaphy We thought Suicune was monsterous. Tail Glow, Rest, Rain Dance and Surf can be destructive. Grass Knot hits Manaphy for nothing, and with enough evs in sp. def Manaphy can eat t-bolts and rest off the remaining damage with its 100% recovery move with high pp. Species Clause I think the only reason this Clause exists is because its an official Nintendo Clause. Teams that would violate this clause would not work in the Battle Frontier or Battle Revolution. I see no harm in removing this Clause besides conflicts with official Nintendo things. OHKO Clause Similar deal with evasion clause. It will essentially turn the game into a luck based coin flip instead of a game using actual strategy. Even Articuno isn't that big of a problem with Mind Reader. Its OHKO in general
  4. *looks at time posted* Try this one instead http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50920 Jumpman said this: Here are some random quotes regarding Mew You're right. They never tested Mew because they don't need to test Mew. This is their suspect list: They already tested Lati@s without Soul Dew. Latios passed, Latias did not. Obviously that also means Latios WITH Soul Dew will not pass either, so the list looks like this: I don't see the sense in doing what they're already going to be doing. Also, that order isn't static. It may change later. In fact, I believe they're doing Manaphy right now based on this thread http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53062 ---------- Post added at 04:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:30 PM ---------- Also, this link might help too http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51472
  5. What about Pikachu? I don't think it has the power to take down any of those
  6. Vaporeon, Swampert, Gyarados, Starmie, Suicune, Kingdra and Tentacruel are the best
  7. Every set I make is outclassed by a Smogon set : /. Most of the time its just switching items or one move.
  8. Mew HAS been tested for 4th Gen. Its was tested a looong time ago. Its almost been 2 years since Diamond Pearl came out in America, and the added moves in Platinum are hardly going to make a difference. Garchomp doesn't need to be tested again. Its strongest "counters" didn't get any buffs to help counter Garchomp at all. Latias was legalized during Platinum, largely due to its help in balancing the Platinum metagame. SCV, the second quote was actually one of your quotes. I just accidently forgot to quote it. And I thought you were the one that editted the post, k?
  9. then in that case what is a Wild NDS or GBA code mean?
  10. Ok, here's why Mew is uber. Mew has no counter. You never know what move Mew is going to use. Its unpredictable. Its as though you were playing chess with another person, except all their pieces looked the same but behaved differently and all started in different locations. There's a possibility of countering him eventually, but not before they've swept you. If you see a Lucario you know what to expect. Either a special sweeper or a physical sweeper. Any other set is just foolish. Smogon says a pokemon like Metagross is a good counter to Mew, but thats assuming Mew doesn't have Swords Dance and Earthquake. ---------- Post added at 07:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:02 PM ---------- That wasn't really exageration. fine, MOST people here either hack or obtain hacks from other members.
  11. How about some OU Pokemon? Also, the OP's set is basically the same thing as the Swords Dance set with Agility being mentioned in the "Other Options" category. I know you people love countering Smogon and sometimes I do too but... Sometimes you can't : /
  12. What you need is an Anti-Lead. A Pokemon with Taunt or Trick. Jirachi, Azelf, Metagross, Weavile, there's a lot.
  13. I do not understand what you mean. The Damage calculations are the same. The IV and EV system is the same. Even Illegal algorithms, such as Bold Zapdoses with perfect IVs are banned. The two environments are identical. What you can trust is that we will find out all game mechanics for each move and modify shoddy to work as the game does. So basically you're talking about people with Perfect IV Pokemon against those without. Well, thats why you breed. To get those stats. Every stat besides Speed has random numbers involved in it. A Lucario with 30 sp. atk EVs instead of 31 Sp. atk EVs will still be able to 2HKO a Blissey with Focus Blast (and choice specs). Also, I'm sure 99% of people on Projectpokemon are using Pokesav Pokemon. Thats this site's greatest appeal. Also, a post thats edited before anyone else posts doesn't show the EDIT thing under it. Someone changed the **** to dust. You were the first person to post after me when it suddenly changed. The only other possibility is that another mod appeared and changed it right before you posted. ---------- Post added at 06:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:30 PM ---------- Varna, do you know why Garchomp was banned? One of the reasons was because it overwhelmed the metagame. People had to have a Pokemon soley to counter Garchomp. Sleep is the exact same thing. So now we all need to carry Lum berries to save ourselves from Breloom? The Metagame would turn into the same thing. And it did. This was in the past during the Emerald generation. Breloom was godly, so Smogon had two options: Ban Breloom or restrict Sleep. They chose to restrict sleep. And again, this is more than just a Smogon thing. Its in Pokemon Battle Revolution and is even an official tournament rule. Now you're not only debating Smogon, you're debating Nintendo.
  14. so if he's wrong a third time do we get to kick him?
  15. Well, you see, when moderators edit my posts they tend to replace a lot of my words with other words. Mostly it feels like people are just arguing rather than asking questions. Smogon exists for a REASON. They're correct and people like me are here to help explain why they're correct.
  16. meh, i have two steels and two grounds on my team : / And its not even Sandstorm. It just works nicely in a sandstorm : /
  17. I don't see the point in having both Starmie AND Vaporeon though, thats what I was trying to say. Rhyperior can be really annoying in a sandstorm though. It already gets that weird ability and now its special defense is even better.
  18. wraith, the instant I started playing it I thought "wow, its just like Wind Waker, except I can jump"
  19. I STILL THINK YOU'RE NELVINS. 6 underscores after N in N______, 6 letters after the N in Nelvins? Constant talk about Emodisc? Hell, you even HAVE Emodisc.
  20. One Reflect doesn't cancel out a Swords Dance, and you can't stack it. I didn't rate Porygon-z because there wasn't anything wrong with it.
  21. Hippowdon is not neccessarily the best lead. People see Stealth Rock and think lead. Its a common mistake. Hippowdon is meant to be the pokemon that comes in after the anti-lead messes up the opponent. Nearly every Anti-lead hinders Hippowdon. Honestly, I don't see the point in Starmie. You don't NEED a rapid Spinner, especially for your team. Only Zapdos takes extra damage from stealth Rock. You'd have a better time with a pokemon like Jirachi to better compliment your Sandstorm, because I don't see the point in making a Sandstorm team with only 3 Sand Pokemon. I don't get your Rhyperior set. The whole idea is that you Sub while they switch Pokemon. If you just keep subbing, when will you have time to use Rock Polish? Also, nice formatting.
  22. yeah, I won't say anything else. If Pokemonfan wants to make a rebuttal go ahead. I won't dwell on it anymore.
  23. In the end, UU play is just composed of the Pokemon not strong enough for OU play. It is based off of usage, but its also not. Heatran is used a lot. Why? Because he's good. However, someone like Milotic isn't used a lot. Why? Not because Milotic isn't good, its because thanks to the Hypnosis nerf she's been outclassed by the other Bulky Waters. You can always use Milotic in OU if you want. RestTalk still works nicely and is still an unexpected approach. Every tier will have those "always used" Pokemon. OU has Scizor, Latias, Heatran and others. UU has Marrowak, Articuno and others as well. But like the OU threats, they can also be counterd. Try Kabutops on for size. That thing should decimate Articuno. ---------- Post added at 05:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:21 PM ---------- The highest ranking people on suspect ladders get to vote on large tests such as Latias, Garchomp and Skymin. They've proven that they're the best at battling and that they know whether or not a certain Pokemon is too difficult to handle. Frankly, I can't expect this forum to generate a discussion like this http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36558 But I can expect this forum to push it aside because there's too much stuff to read. Name them and I'll judge their credibility in the Pokemon community.
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