Jump to content

randomspot555

Former Staff
  • Posts

    1993
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Everything posted by randomspot555

  1. 5 Pokemon is not a team. Feel free to re-post once you have a full team.
  2. Post a full team with EVs, description/roles, and all the other things that the rules say you should have, or this gets closed.
  3. If a bad case of hax is going to make someone quit, they have much bigger problems then what happens in a Pokemon battle. Whenever you start doing a ban of "allowed but powerful" (for lack of a better phrase) there's ALWAYS going to be a handful of Pokemon still allowed in that will end up on everyone's team. In a Kanto only tournament I recently participated in, all teams except one had Gengar. Another tournament had a similar theme to this, banning the most powerful, centralizing Pokemon, and allowing the rest, to foster creativity. But the OP even put "Even though I know all of you are gonna use Togekiss." What about Trick users? That can mess someone's game up right away. There goes Gengar, Mismagius, Starmie, Spiritomb. Butterfree, Smeargle, and Breloom all have access to (near) 100% sleep. There will always be good Pokemon allowed. But Togekiss is honestly one of the easier ones to counter (IE Swampert).
  4. How are Zapdos and Infernape as centralizing as the ones I outlined?
  5. Exactly. People should keep in mind that the uber tier is not meant to be balanced. It's just a ban list for the standard tier. A Pokemon that doesn't perform well in ubers means jack if it should be there. It should be there if it centralizes the standard tier.
  6. You're going to be kicking yourself once Blissey gets statused. Use this instead.
  7. The list doesn't make sense at all. If it isn't a part of this project (and apparently, it is, since you posted it in this thread, and said you and wraith were working on it), then why'd you mention it? Does it have anything to do with PP at all? Or was this just going to be done in secret? I might be overreacting slightly, but it seems just as horrible as that tier list that was posted when the forums first opened. It's like you made drastic changes for the sake of making drastic changes instead of having any support behind them. EDIT: As for the actual tiers, I still think this is the best method. You all can argue over names later Uber Standard whatever our equivalent of UU is whatever our equivalent of NU is. When something is being tested, it's just assigned a "limbo" tag or something similar. I really don't see why there needs to be a 5th or 6th tier, which basically end up being BL limbo tiers and just end up confusing the hell out of people.
  8. Instead of telling you why your list of proposed easy mode bans is wrong, I'll just go with my own. I don't think Easy Mode should remove a TON of Pokemon. I think it should remove 6-7 of the biggest threats. Coincidentally, these threats usually have a roll or two to fill in Uber battling. Tyranitar: With amazing stats in everything except speed, access to a ridiculous move pool full of offensive moves, defensive, team support, and everything else, and a 50% boost in special defense due to sand stream. That's right, even though it's typing gives it tons of weaknesses, that doesn't matter. It soaks up special hits like there's no tomorrow. Salamence: Yeah, it sucks in uber battling,but who cares? It dominates the current game. Offense? Standard DD. Defense? Well, it gets Roost and Iron Defense. It's also got just decent enough of a special move pool to run special sets. Intimidate means it can take a few hits before going down. Latias: While I haven't encountered it too much, when I do, I'm usually screwed unless I stop and think for a while. Scizor: Duh. This guy causes so many Pokemon to switch out, and CB hurts, even if the opponent resists. And if it's running a Sub, stat up, or Baton Pass set, it's pretty much a guarantee that Scizor will get a chance to sub/stat up/Baton Pass. Heatran: Again, duh. Typing gives it fire immunity, poison immunity, resists to a lot of other stuff, and it's speed is just good enough to be boosted by a scarf. Or you can get sp atk up to ridiculous levels and specs it. Or you can sub up and fire off Will O Wisp to cripple Breloom and other switch ins. Or it can explode. Lucario, Magnezon, Metagross, and the Rotom forms are formidable threats, but they don't have nearly the "oh shit" feel of the above. Lucario's typing is good, but it's defense sucks so it can't afford to switch on much. Magnezone's sole purpose is to trap Scizor. Metagross is hampered by Trick and usually doesnt like STAB special attacks that it doesn't resist. Togekiss is easily counterable in so many ways that I lost count. Mamoswine: See Metagross. Alakazam is something I've rarely encountered and I've never had a problem with it. Celebi and Jirachi have been annoying as hell but I don't think they're centralizing the way that the 6 I outlined are.
  9. Articuno in OU? No way. With Heatran and Scizor on every other team (often the same), Metagross and Swampert as leads, and x4 weak to rock (meaning 50% gone from SR damage). Add onto that that it's only stellar stat is it's special defense, and that doesn't mean too much when you have 50% gone just by switching in. Remembe rthe point of testing lower tiered for higher tiered placage is if they are just completely overcentralizing the lower tier. It should not be "can they do well in the upper tier?". Porygon-2 is a great Gyarados and Salamence counter, but it doesn't seem to break the lower tiers in half like Staraptor did over at Smogon. All the others in "confirmed" (and for 3 people, you seem to have sped through the work) could at least have a case made for them, but I have no idea how one could make the case that Articuno is centralizing the lower tiers.
  10. An optional clause banning the many "good in ubers environment but aren't ubers themselves (ie Heatran, Tyranitar, Scizor, Meta, etc...)" has a nice sound to it, as long as it's optional. It'll be interesting to see how that works. I think the best thing to do, at this point, is pick a handful of Pokemon that seem to perpetually fluctuate in tiers and usage and test them our selves to see where they should fall. Donphan, Milotic, Staraptor would be great candidates for this. MAYBE Ambipom and Crobat. I also really think no more than 4 names for tiers is needed: Whatever our equivalent of uber is. Whatever the standard tier will be called. Whatever the equivalent of uu will be called Whatever the equivalent of neverused will be called And when testing crap, we just put it in the appropriate [limbo] category between two tiers and thus don't need any dumb BL list.
  11. If someone wants to start a breeding discussion thread in 4th gen forums, that's fine. Especially if lots of the small questions are breeding. It also gives people a place to put those otherwise useless "oh wowzers i gotz a 31 ivd [whatever]" posts.
  12. Okay, it just sounded like (or maybe I misread) that this whole shindig was a done deal. Good to know I'm wrong.
  13. No offense meant, but what qualifies you three as testers? I thought the whole point of having a thread like this is to set up a method so the whole community can test. I mean cmon, it's not that hard to have a battle on Shoddy, take some notes from it, and point out "Well, this seems broke because of [reason], but this seems fine due to [reason]."
  14. I did have a fairly lengthy response about how horrible this sounds, but TLDR is I don't want this place to become some creepy Deviant Art type of posting hell hole.
  15. A few criticisms: Your list of the proposed tiers contradicts the paragraph following it. You lump BL in with UU in the list, but then say BL is in OU in the paragraph itself. There are a handful of non-OU Pokemon that can fulfill unique roles in a battle. That won't change regardless of where it lies in the same tiers. But I'll have to disagree when you say BL can work just as fine as standard OU mons. There are tons of physical sweepers that can do a ridiculously powerful Band set like Staraptor. However, many sweepers don't have to deal with the myriad of flying/normal weaknesses +25% gone from SR. Tiers over at Smogon aren's strictly based on usage, though mostly. You'll never see Salamence in UU, even if everyone stops using it. However, basing it on stats/movepool/etc... is dangerously close to theorymon. If we're basing it on that, what's the point of even testing it? Smogon took a step in the right direction by essentially eliminating the BLs and throwing them in UU or OU. Those that didn't break UU in half stayed there. Others stayed in OU. We should do something similar, and I think a good set of Pokemon to start off testing would be some that seem to fluctuate in usage: Milotic Donphan Staraptor Crobat Smeargle We shoudn't be that concerned. This is for the betterment of the PP community, not others. And just like Smogon,the only place where they enforce the rules as they are is their Shoddy server. (IE: PP members battling elsewhere shouldn't whine and moan about them using non-PP tiers. Respect the board and whatever system they use). Time? We need a METHOD first. I'm relatively new to Shoddy, so I don't wanna propose a method.
  16. A Pokemon forum is not the first place you should think of when desiring tech help. This is a simple question that could be solved via a Google search.
  17. As someone who does some IT work (but am by no means an expert): Macs are expensive due to generally how easy they are to use and the low amount of time it takes to acquire the knowledge to use them. They are essentially "pre-built" machines, hence why they cost so much more than a PC. The one situation in which I could justify a purchase of a Mac over a PC is for media edition. For video editing, pro-tools, and a bunch of other things, they are well worth it. at least that's what those in the fields of journalism and many other media think. Otherwise, it's mainly lazy college kids who don't want to take the time to learn how to use a damn computer. That being said, I don't think they are extremely user friendly. I could not hand a Mac to a grandparent and expect them to learn to use it. I couldn't do it with a PC either, but I can at least customize a PC so that it only does e-mail, basic Internet surfing, and picture storage. PCs are basically blank slates for computers. It can be as simple or as complex as one would like. Ideally, those who own PCs would learn a few basics before using them (run Windows Update regularly, install reliable anti-virus, etc...). But because they usually don't, I get paid to do it for them. so I prefer PCs.
  18. If no one is currently posting about literature in the off topic forums, then there's no demand, hence no need for a section. Now, this is primarily a discussion board for Pokemon. So even though some parts of the forums are generally low traffic (1st gen, franchise, anime) or only used by a handful of people (the technical forums for game coding and that boring crap), they serve a central role to the purpose of the site and forum. So that stuff gets a bit of preference. So for a new Off topic forum, there should be a demand for a certain section before one is created. We have had a number of "serious" topics come up, so Debate was created. If the first page of Off Topic had like 66% video game threads, then a Video Game (non Pokemon) forum would be warranted. If Creative Discussion had 50% threads discussing novels and 20% threads discussing comic books, then a Literature forum might be warranted. But neither of these situations is really happening. Anyway, since I'm kinda lazy, I'm closing this. Forum suggestions/additions should really go in the Forum Feedback near the topic anyway.
  19. Maybe this is a technicality, but isn't any pkm file legal, since there's no way to obtain a digital file of a Pokemon without the use of an external device?
  20. There's not much to critique. It's literally a one move difference on a standard set, without even EVs posted. And I didn't flame you. Sometimes critiques of sets can be harsh. Can't handle it? Er...don't post? For a decent original set, see the Amnesia Snorlax a few posts up. Making a minor move-set change does not make it a unique set.
  21. Off topic is not your personal tech help forum. Making TWO threads for I-pod help is not discussable at all to anyone who isn't you or the person helping you. I'd suggest going to Google and looking up those that have similar problems, maybe go to a tech web site/forum and ask for help there.
  22. This really isn't a "help me mod my ipod" forum. I'd recommend posting on their website and asking there. It also seems a bit too close to asking for copyrighted links, so I'm pre-emptively closing this. Sorry.
  23. That's really not a unique set. It's use a Curse-Rest Talk with a different move (and a rather crappy one at that).
  24. <p><p><p><p><p>Already did,</p></p></p></p></p>

  25. Ok, congratulations. You wasted a whole lot of money for something you could've done yourself at little to no cost. *closing*
×
×
  • Create New...