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Guested
May 9th, 2009, 01:19 AM
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Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Speculation Thread

Please use this thread to discuss possibilities of things that you think might or might not be in HeartGold and SoulSilver.
Please make a note of confirmed information in the thread here:
http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?p=50138#post50138


Some information from GSC:
Regarding Pokémon availability:
The game will most likely use the Johto Pokédex which included all 251 known Pokémon at that time. However, not all of them were available to be caught in the games.

Unobtainable Pokémon in Pokémon Gold:
023Ekans - available in DPP via FireRed dual-slot method
024Arbok - available in DPP Great Marsh via FireRed dual-slot method
037Vulpix - available in DPP via LeafGreen dual-slot method
038Ninetales - has only ever been available through evolution
052Meowth - available in DPP as daily Trophy Garden appearance
053Persian - only available in Gen IV through evolution
165Ledyba - only available in Gen IV through breeding
166Ledian - found on Route 229 (after Nat Dex, of course) in the morning
225Delibird - available in DPP through swarms
227Skarmory - found on Route 227 and Stark Mt in DPP
231Phanpy - available in DPP through swarms
232Donphan - has only been available through evolution in Gen III and IV


Unobtainable Pokémon in Pokémon Silver
027Sandshrew - available in DPP via LeafGreen dual-slot method
028Sandslash - available in DPP via LeafGreen dual-slot method
058Growlithe - available in DPP via FireRed dual-slot method
059Arcanine - has only ever been available through evolution
056Mankey - available in DPP via PokeRadar
057Primeape - available in DPP via PokeRadar
167Spinarak - only availble in Gen IV through breeding
168Ariados - found on Route 229 (after Nat Dex, of course) in the night
207Gligar - available in DP via Emerald dongle method, also included in Platinum Sinnoh Dex
216Teddiursa - available in DPP via Emerald dual-slot method
217Ursaring - available in DPP via Emerald dual-slot method
226Mantine - only available in Gen IV through evolution


It's also possible that the Pokemon included in the Johto Dex who now have new evolutions from Gen 3 or 4 could see those evolutions present in the new games and possibly a newer version of the Johto Dex. Or perhaps they won't be, like FR/LG? What do you think?

Pokemon that have been introduced in Gen III or IV that evolve from or into a Johto Dex Pokemon:
New evolutions
468Togekiss
469Yanmega
462Magnezone
424Ambipom
467Magmortar
466Electivire
463Lickilicky
465Tangrowth
471Glaceon
470Leafeon
472Gliscor
473Mamoswine
464Rhyperior
430Honchkrow
461Weavile
429Mismagius
474Porygon-Z
New pre-evolutions
438Bonsly
360Wynaut
298Azurill
439Mime Jr.
458Mantyke
440Happiny


Despite being able to travel to Kanto, these Pokemon were unavailable:
001Bulbasaur - starter in Gen III FRLG, not available in Gen IV
002Ivysaur
003Venusaur
004Charmander - starter in Gen III, not available in Gen IV
005Charmeleon
006Charizard
007Squirtle - starter in Gen III, not available in Gen IV
008Wartortle
009Blastoise
138Omanyte - fossil can be obtained in DPP Underground
139Omastar - has only ever been available through evolution
140Kabuto - fossil can be obtained in DPP Underground
141Kabutops - has only ever been available through evolution
144Articuno - roams in Platinum after obtaining National Dex
145Zapdos - roams in Platinum after obtaining National Dex
146Moltres - roams in Platinum after obtaining National Dex
150Mewtwo - available in Gen III FRLG, not available in Gen IV
151Mew - event


Out of these listed Kanto Pokemon, the fossil Pokemon are able to be found in the Underground in DPP, the three legendary birds are found in Platinum, but the starters are only obtainable by migration from FRLG and Mewtwo/Mew are not available in a 4th Gen game yet.

Also, Celebi was obtainable through an item-activated event in the Japanese version, but not American. Therefore, it could be possible that a Celebi event could be in the new games. Perhaps with a GS Ball event similar to the Member's Card or Oak's Letter.

What do you think about the Kanto starters and Mew/Mewtwo? Do you think there could be something similar to Birch giving you a Johto starter in Emerald? Or perhaps an item-activated event for Mewtwo in the Cerulean Cave?

Legendary Pokemon in GS:
244Entei
243Raikou
245Suicune

These three Legendary Pokemon were catchable in GS after encountering them in the Brass (burned-down) Tower in Ecruteak. After this event, they could be found randomly roaming routes in Johto.
All three were available in Gen III's Colosseum, one was available in each playthrough of FR or LG. None have been available in Gen IV.

250Ho-oh
249Lugia

Ho-oh is obviously the Gold mascot, and Lugia the Silver. You could catch your version's mascot by getting the Rainbow or Silver feather (found at the Johto Radio Tower), respectively. You could catch the opposite mascot after obtaining the proper feather in Pewter City later in the game. Lugia is in the Whirl Islands, Ho-oh is in the Tin Tower in Ecruteak.
Both were available in Gen III. Ho-oh was available after completing Mt. Battle in Colosseum, Lugia was available in the storyline of XD. Neither have been available in Gen IV so far.


I think it's safe to say that the Regi-trio Pokemon will not be included in these versions since they were already in Platinum (as well as obviously being in RSE).

Obtainable Pokemon through in-game gifts
175Togepi - You can get an egg from a scientist in Violet City after the 1st Gym
130Red Gyarados - the Red Gyarados can be found at the Lake of Rage and is a part of the story
131Lapras - Lapras can be found in a cave near Violet City, but only on Fridays
236Tyrogue - You could get Tyrogue from a Karate trainer near Ecruteak
133Eevee - Bill will give you an Eevee at his house in Goldenrod after you've met him in the neighboring city
213Shuckle - You can get Shuckle from a guy in Olivine


Rumors:
* N/A ATM

Keep in mind this thread is purely for speculation as we have no actual information to go on.

What do you think about this? Do you think other Pokemon will be included?
Do you think Kanto will be included (or do you think it will be cut since it already appeared in FR/LG)? Do you think more of Kanto's Pokemon will be available? Do you think Kanto will be the same size? Bigger/more in-depth than in GS?
What kind of legendary/event Pokemon do you think will be in the game? What kind of Pokemon do you think we'll get through item-activated events (such as Darkrai, Shaymin and Arceus)? Do you think we'll see ways to obtain Mewtwo, Mew, Celebi or even Jirachi's first in-game obtainable appearance?

What other aspects of the game do you think will be included? Or what do you think will be cut from the original release of GS?

I'm personally really hoping to see something like the Battleground from Platinum where you'd be able to re-battle the characters from GS such as the Johto and Kanto Gym leaders (and maybe even Red, if he comes out of his cave...).

Let's talk about it.

pokemonfan
May 9th, 2009, 01:24 AM
I'm just hoping for more obtainable legendaries (without events) because I'm tired of cheating for the legendaries I get. One of the reasons I'm trying to buy all the pokemon games and eventually get all of those legendaries up to platinum.

God_OF_ZERO
May 9th, 2009, 01:57 AM
I need a real location to jirachi:grog:

wraith89
May 9th, 2009, 02:08 AM
Perhaps they'll release an event to get Celebi eventually. What we need is an expanded Johto and Kanto... Kanto was terribly short in GSC and limited. Also, GSC's difficulty was VERY easy... highest level Pokemon being a level 51 Golbat (without counting legendaries) and the E4's strongest Pokemon being a level 50 Dragonite. Pathetic :-/

Maybe a difficulty setting like The Fallen's suggestion might do? I wish they had something like that... GSC felt n00bified.

Also, I'm hoping Mismagius and Honchkrow are available before beating the game and whatnot because although the former was great even if unevolved, the latter's unevolved form was quite unimpressive. :(

HottSushiz
May 9th, 2009, 02:51 AM
As long as either Scizor, Weavile, or Lucario is obtainable, I'm semi-happy, I'm quite depressed looking at the fact your unable to obtain either Mew, or Mewtwo, which is a downside.

I really can't wait for this game, because when it was originally released, i was only a little kid, that was too retarded to let turn based games enter my life.....until i played Golden Sun, then that changed my perspective.

Guested
May 9th, 2009, 02:59 AM
As long as either Scizor, Weavile, or Lucario is obtainable, I'm semi-happy, I'm quite depressed looking at the fact your unable to obtain either Mew, or Mewtwo, which is a downside.


Scizor and Weavile might be, since they are evolutions of Scyther and Sneasel. But I don't see why they would put in Lucario, other than for its popularity. It obviously wasn't in Johto.

The lists I posted were from the original versions on the GameBoy. There's no final word yet on whether Mewtwo will be obtainable or not, but... who knows, it could really go either way.

Greencat
May 9th, 2009, 03:09 AM
Possibly big graphic/technology updates. Like, instead of a train, you see a Monorail and you travel throughout the city (The station in Golden Rod) into Saffron (I believe). That would be neat. I really hope it's as vibrant as Platinum if not more.

Getting rid of the radio and making it an MP3 player would be nice too.

Guested
May 9th, 2009, 03:29 AM
Possibly big graphic/technology updates. Like, instead of a train, you see a Monorail and you travel throughout the city (The station in Golden Rod) into Saffron (I believe).

Actually, that's supposed to be the Shinkansen that goes from Tokyo to Kyoto, so... it won't be a monorail, but maybe they'll update it to look a little faster.

InuYouki
May 9th, 2009, 07:15 AM
What I would like to see would be separate Pokemon Leagues. Every Region has had its own Pokemon League except Jhoto which shared a League with Kanto. Having two separate Leagues to beat would add more to the story IMO.

As far as what pokemon they will have I am sure you will be able to get all of them, but most likely it will be like FR/LG where you start with the basic Pokedex you had in the Original and then upgrade it later.

Honestly, I would prefer it that way. I loved how they did that with FR/LG because it really gave you the feel of the original, but more zazzy.

derrick
May 9th, 2009, 12:46 PM
well i hopeing celebii will be in it (most likely will) and it would be cool to get him the same way like in crystal and i didnt think about jurichi possably the white rock professor oak mentiond in platinum could have some thing to do with it but then again it could just be another shaymin you know like how they but deoxys and lugia and ho-oh in firered and leaf green
and emerald a gs ball event would be cool!

i wonder if the rotom formes will be in this game i hope they are and giratinas two cause there not trade able so how would you get them?

xeomyr
May 9th, 2009, 12:49 PM
Possibly big graphic/technology updates. Like, instead of a train, you see a Monorail and you travel throughout the city (The station in Golden Rod) into Saffron (I believe). That would be neat. I really hope it's as vibrant as Platinum if not more.

Getting rid of the radio and making it an MP3 player would be nice too.
LOL .. then i want a plane in the game and travel johto from the sky XD XD ...

anyway ... i haven't played G/S/C ..
so many people said that this game is the best pokemon series ever ...
why?? coz' diamond/pearl 's already good for me XD ... and platinum is the best for now XD ( not counting the bugs in GTS =_= )

derrick
May 9th, 2009, 01:09 PM
well if theres a plane then there might be latios in lotios in it two because in emerald people said they flew in trough plan and saw two werd pokemon and i found out it was latios and laitas it would be cool to get new sprites of them and stuff but i highly doubt they will be in the games

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and you might possabley see people from other regions in it if theres a plane in it which would open up more possableitys of other regions makeing it to ds like the ora region from xd or some thing

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i was thinking the red garydose what was its part in the story in the old versons?
thats one of the few things i dont know about them and i wonder if it will be in the new ones

FLOOTENKERP
May 9th, 2009, 02:32 PM
I hope Celebi is legitimately obtainable in HG/SS.

derrick
May 9th, 2009, 03:35 PM
me two who dosent want a legal celebii besides some one who hates them

Neo
May 9th, 2009, 04:41 PM
Discuss what new features they might include in the game.
New radio? New Transport System? Discuss it here!

I think they might add MP3 support for the DSi, Make that its exclusive feature.

wraith89
May 9th, 2009, 04:47 PM
A fairly obvious Battle Tower-esque place (maybe that building in Vermilion City will get completed... really, that man has been constructing that building for THREE YEARS and it's still not done!)

4evil
May 9th, 2009, 06:31 PM
they probably mightdo a GS ball event when it comes out to encourage people to buy it to get celebi?

4evil
May 9th, 2009, 06:33 PM
Some dsi exclusive features because i hate asking my friends to use their ds to pal park everytime. :(

HottSushiz
May 9th, 2009, 07:55 PM
I don't really expect any changes, i hope not, unless it's a really significant change, that would make the game more enjoyable, like Pokemon Platinum had faster Surfing capabilities, and that made getting from the 8th Gym Leader, to the Elite 4, a lot more easier, and faster.

randomspot555
May 9th, 2009, 08:08 PM
Honestly, I think Johto was kind of barren. And that's why Kanto was such an appeal. Even though it was essentially a ghost town, it's often cited as the best part of the game.

So I think they'll expand Johto and maybe add a bit more plot (but it won't be different). Then probably add "Kanto Island" or something like that to have a nice Battle Frontier and a bunch of wild Kanto animals. But I don't think it'll be as massive as Plat.

Anyways, since this and the speculation thread are basically the same. I'm going to merge them.

Destati
May 9th, 2009, 08:41 PM
Orange Islands -> Battle Frontier

Eh? eh?

Johto felt barren because... It was an old game. Much like FF4 on the SNES, it would have been difficult, if not impossible to have as many environments as Gamefreak desired. Erctreuk should appear more like a shrine in Kyoto while Olivine should be built more like the great port city its fashioned after (Kobe).

SwitzaHouse
May 10th, 2009, 01:51 AM
The game is bound to have something new, I'm hoping more on the Kanto side of things. I'm sure there will be an island or something being that there's Vermilion City and all, it would be cool to have an updated Sevii Islands too. Still, this being my favorite PKMN game it's a definite buy. Johto had it all, it introduced almost every major feature in PKMN today.

Guested
May 10th, 2009, 02:21 AM
I'm thinking that the Radio function on the Pokegear will be replaced with a TV. And that the radio towers (in Johto and Kanto) will be TV tours.
And that the pokegear itself will more closely resemble a cell phone.

Since 10 years ago, cell phone usage has exploded in Japan (and everywhere), and the major broadcasting towers in Japan are now mainly Digital (and analog) TV towers. And most people can pick up these digital broadcasts with the digital tuner on their cell phones and watch TV anywhere they're within range. People can even watch TV on their DS if they buy the tuner package.
The only people with portable radios these days in Japan are old people.

So that's my prediction.

Greencat
May 10th, 2009, 02:45 AM
I really want them to utilize 3D effects GSC had more cities with tall building/structures than the rest. Hopefully boat rides too instead of using Surf. Like, you control the boat, don't have to encounter Pokemon, but for a small fee.

psyce
May 10th, 2009, 03:36 AM
Come on. You can easily bet Nintendo is gonna want to earn loads off a remake too. Maybe it's possible that there'll be a ZCrystal to go along with an XGold and YSilver? What say?

L Lawliet
May 10th, 2009, 04:19 AM
Naw, that is extremely unlikely and there would be no reason too. Besides we know nothing about the story that is involved with HG/SS. Speculation should be reserved after some more detail about the game has risen.

Raukue
May 10th, 2009, 04:51 AM
Let's see... I feel they will add more event and stories to stop you in-between gyms so the game lasts a little bit longer. It does go kind of rather quick from gym to gym and something more needs to go in-between.

I feel they should keep the Mach and normal bike switch like in Sinnoh. There might be story differences dealing with the heart and soul. There might be something to do with the wind, like what pokemon can be caught that maybe get carried by wind.

The radio tower might get replaced with a GTS. How they might mention there use to be a radio tower there. Just think it is the past yet not, you know? The pokemon will be on higher levels to make the game more challenging. The return of the Vs.Seeker and Poketech applications with better navigation.

Eh that is all I can think of right now.

Neo
May 10th, 2009, 04:57 AM
Yeah a GTS would be a good idea and a Wi-Fi plaza maybe?

Raukue
May 10th, 2009, 05:01 AM
Yeah a GTS would be a good idea and a Wi-Fi plaza maybe?

I'm just pretty sure they are gonna put a GTS and the Wi-Fi plaza and such like that. To not do so would be such a downgrade, well would be going backward at least I mean.

psyce
May 10th, 2009, 05:12 AM
Yeah. But the plot will probably be the same. Except for a few minor changes and maybe Team Galactic will make a joint venture with Team Rocket towards the end or something. But it could be likely that a trio-game will be launched. Of course, FR/LG didn't have a third version. But you can never know with Nintendo.

codemonkey85
May 10th, 2009, 07:52 AM
I agree that it would make the most sense if the Platinum wi-fi features were included in these games. The GTS would most likely be located in Goldenrod City, I suppose.

Also, I'm pulling for move tutors to teach moves that the Johto TMs contained (like they did in Emerald).

Also, some of the features that will be implemented next generation are probably going to debut (albeit in a more simplified form) in HG and SS... like the wireless adapter in FRLG (prior to the DS' wireless features), or the ability to move items and multi-select Pokémon in the PC (another feature introduced in FRLG that was implemented in subsequent games).

codemonkey85
May 10th, 2009, 07:56 AM
Nah, I think it's more likely that Nintendo / Game Freak will be working on the Gen V games after HG and SS are released. Actually, they're probably already working on Gen V, and some of the features that will be implemented next generation are probably going to debut (albeit in a more simplified form) in HG and SS... like the wireless adapter in FRLG (prior to the DS' wireless features), or the ability to move items and multi-select Pokémon in the PC (another feature introduced in FRLG that was implemented in subsequent games).

Eatsushi
May 10th, 2009, 01:47 PM
Nope but it would be cool if they remake cystal

That Pokemon Guy
May 10th, 2009, 02:42 PM
If they did remake Crystal? What would they call it?

Sir Xero
May 10th, 2009, 02:43 PM
absolutely.

According to my logic, it would be very smart to have a game that has ALL regions in it, and you can play on each, pick which one you start at.... etc.

As for a new generation, that might be a while.

Mewtwo Ex
May 10th, 2009, 03:17 PM
I really hope that there is a battle frontier in this game not just a battle tower.
In platinum i'm waiting to play and dominate the battle tower. Every thing seems the same to me. I hope i'm wrong. I have to receive it yet...

Endless Eden
May 10th, 2009, 03:27 PM
I really hope that there is a battle frontier in this game not just a battle tower.
In platinum i'm waiting to play and dominate the battle tower. Every thing seems the same to me. I hope i'm wrong. I have to receive it yet...

If they include kanto they will have to have the sevi islands right?But what about navel rock?Where lugia and ho-oh were in FRLG i thinks its a perfect spot for a battle frontier

Fallen
May 10th, 2009, 03:30 PM
They don't have to. Sevii Islands were never a part of the original. Even though they weren't a part of Red/Blue either. Who knows what they will include since there is much that they can.

Draconic_Renegade
May 10th, 2009, 03:31 PM
If they include kanto they will have to have the sevi islands right?But what about navel rock?Where lugia and ho-oh were in FRLG i thinks its a perfect spot for a battle frontier

That makes sense but what if they were to add a new area between Kanto/Johto to serve as a Battle Frontier, though I really hop they don't really add much besides updated gameplay and graphics.>.>

Endless Eden
May 10th, 2009, 03:44 PM
They don't have to. Sevii Islands were never a part of the original. Even though they weren't a part of Red/Blue either. Who knows what they will include since there is much that they can.

i suppose that makes sense FRLG where direct remakes of RB but GS was in the future of RB when you went to kanto a lot of things were diffrent.whould still be cool though.

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That makes sense but what if they were to add a new area between Kanto/Johto to serve as a Battle Frontier, though I really hop they don't really add much besides updated gameplay and graphics.>.>

If they did that instead of what i said and still put in the sevi islands navel rock chould be ome to some legends.mew and mewto anyone?In GS if i remember correctly cerulean cave was gone so maybe NR chould be mewtos new home?

Mewtwo Ex
May 10th, 2009, 03:46 PM
That makes sense but what if they were to add a new area between Kanto/Johto to serve as a Battle Frontier, though I really hop they don't really add much besides updated gameplay and graphics.>.>


i suppose that makes sense FRLG where direct remakes of RB but GS was in the future of RB when you went to kanto a lot of things were diffrent.whould still be cool though.

I don't think that Nintendo will be reviving Nevel rock. It one of those hard to get places and i doubt that Nintendo will do anything with it. Although it sounds really tempting to me.
A thought just a cured to me. Imagine hypothetically speaking that there is a Nintendo Wi-fi tournament - event, and the top 1000 get a ticket to the new exclusive Top Battle Frontier.
Pretty wacky but it's just a thought.

Draconic_Renegade
May 10th, 2009, 03:51 PM
I don't think that Nintendo will be reviving Nevel rock. It one of those hard to get places and i doubt that Nintendo will do anything with it. Although it sounds really tempting to me.
A thought just a cured to me. Imagine hypothetically speaking that there is a Nintendo Wi-fi tournament - event, and the top 1000 get a ticket to the new exclusive Top Battle Frontier.
Pretty wacky but it's just a thought.

I doubt Nintendo would do that though, just limiting it to 1000 or so people. Maybe they'll include the MCC from Crystal in place of the Goldenrod Pokemon Center and, like in Crystal, give you news and stuff along with the features in D&P and Pl.=3

Endless Eden
May 10th, 2009, 03:51 PM
I don't think that Nintendo will be reviving Nevel rock. It one of those hard to get places and i doubt that Nintendo will do anything with it. Although it sounds really tempting to me.
A thought just a cured to me. Imagine hypothetically speaking that there is a Nintendo Wi-fi tournament - event, and the top 1000 get a ticket to the new exclusive Top Battle Frontier.
Pretty wacky but it's just a thought.

It is pretty whacky but it sounds real cool only the best of the best whould be there.

Mewtwo Ex
May 10th, 2009, 03:59 PM
It is pretty whacky but it sounds real cool only the best of the best whould be there.

I know it is, but just imagine...
And Nintendo would have exclusive gifts in the shops on the island. Dolls for you secret base, less pricey items, exclusively allowing another event longer or just for these winners.
Yea, right! This is Nintendo we are speaking of.:cool:

codemonkey85
May 10th, 2009, 04:07 PM
It is pretty whacky but it sounds real cool only the best of the best whould be there.

Maybe for like, a week, before someone hacks it in their save.

Draconic_Renegade
May 10th, 2009, 04:09 PM
Maybe for like, a week, before someone hacks it in their save.

Yeah, those damn hackers with their technology.xD But that's what happens to great ideas, they get raped, especially by America.>.>

Endless Eden
May 10th, 2009, 04:10 PM
Maybe for like, a week, before someone hacks it in their save.

Did not think of that.what if nintendo kept a regular check on the number of people obviously it chouldnt go over 1000 it chould only go down.

Mewtwo Ex
May 10th, 2009, 04:13 PM
Maybe for like, a week, before someone hacks it in their save.

That's true. You never know what they will come up next. Nintendo evolves like the Pokemon we love.


What's the matter with me getting so soft?!

himee2
May 10th, 2009, 04:18 PM
As long as this game rules and has all of my expectations, i'm fine.

Endless Eden
May 10th, 2009, 04:22 PM
A thought regarding the whole starter following you thing what if some one hacked or traded all 3 starters into the game whould all 3 follow you?

Mewtwo Ex
May 10th, 2009, 04:24 PM
A thought regarding the whole starter following you thing what if some one hacked or traded all 3 starters into the game whould all 3 follow you?

Probably only the Pokemon in the first slot.

Draconic_Renegade
May 10th, 2009, 04:26 PM
Probably only the Pokemon in the first slot.

Or, maybe they'll let you choose which Pokemon would follow you, and you could also put the Pokemon back in it's ball.

Endless Eden
May 10th, 2009, 04:27 PM
Probably only the Pokemon in the first slot.

Or probbably just the one you pick at the beginning.still it whould be so cool for all 3 to follow you around:)

Mewtwo Ex
May 10th, 2009, 04:28 PM
Or, maybe they'll let you choose which Pokemon would follow you, and you could also put the Pokemon back in it's ball.

It has to have such an option or it would be too much of a bother.

codemonkey85
May 10th, 2009, 04:28 PM
Telos, in the DPPt save files, the game keeps track of which Pokémon you actually picked as your starter. So most likely only that one would follow you around (if they ever implement such a feature).

Endless Eden
May 10th, 2009, 04:32 PM
Telos, in the DPPt save files, the game keeps track of which Pokémon you actually picked as your starter. So most likely only that one would follow you around (if they ever implement such a feature).

didnt know that:D.CM I remember starting platinum getting my starter chimchar then using pokesav to get piplup and turtwig eggs.I hatched the eggs then went to Birchs lab i had turtwig in slot one Birch asked me did i want to nickname turtwig!why not chimchar?

AtomicGreymon
May 10th, 2009, 05:40 PM
I'm hoping the Kanto Safari Zone will be intact, along with most of the other things that made the region a little too barren in exchange for being able to fit on the old Game Paks. Also, since a lot of people probably don't have FireRed or LeafGreen, it would be nice if they restored Cerulean Cave. Including at least some of the Sevii Islands would be cool, too.

Hopefully the Mystery Gift event Wonder Cards for these games stay compatible with the system used for D/P/Pt, in that it's possible to modify the allowed game flag and either integrate them into your other games (unless it's for an item that doesn't exist in D/P/Pt) through Pokesav, or the gamestop deoxys method

Mewtwo Ex
May 10th, 2009, 05:46 PM
I'm hoping the Kanto Safari Zone will be intact, along with most of the other things that made the region a little too barren in exchange for being able to fit on the old Game Paks. Also, since a lot of people probably don't have FireRed or LeafGreen, it would be nice if they restored Cerulean Cave. Including at least some of the Sevii Islands would be cool, too.

Hopefully the Mystery Gift event Wonder Cards for these games stay compatible with the system used for D/P/Pt, in that it's possible to modify the allowed game flag and either integrate them into your other games (unless it's for an item that doesn't exist in D/P/Pt) through Pokesav, or the gamestop deoxys method

I hope for Cerulian cave also, for obvious reasons. And if the kanto region is in the game they have to put it there. If anything is blocking the path. There probably is going to be an event of some sort.

wraith89
May 10th, 2009, 06:27 PM
I hope for Cerulian cave also, for obvious reasons. And if the kanto region is in the game they have to put it there. If anything is blocking the path. There probably is going to be an event of some sort.

I really wish that were the case... but I wonder if Berserk Gene is coming back... it appears that poor Mewtwo died or something because the cave went down from an avalanche or something (or it's the stupid game designers being lazy with GSC... I want an expansion!!) No way, Mewtwo's not dead... he's alive and well... that's right! He's invincible! :P

ZMaster
May 10th, 2009, 07:26 PM
The bad guys in HG/SS may be Team Rocket again? Also, if they have Red Gyarados there, it will be one of the only Shiny Pokémon to EVER be in game.

Fallen
May 10th, 2009, 07:31 PM
I really wish that were the case... but I wonder if Berserk Gene is coming back... it appears that poor Mewtwo died or something because the cave went down from an avalanche or something (or it's the stupid game designers being lazy with GSC... I want an expansion!!) No way, Mewtwo's not dead... he's alive and well... that's right! He's invincible! :P

Mewtwo could never die. He is the greatest creation ever. It would be amazing if they put the Cerulean Cave back in the game though.

Endless Eden
May 10th, 2009, 07:33 PM
The bad guys in HG/SS may be Team Rocket again? Also, if they have Red Gyarados there, it will be one of the only Shiny Pokémon to EVER be in game.

when i first played gold and got shiny gyrados he saw me through the rest of the game.hes the best:D(about team rocket they cant change them in FRLG on 5 island you battle an admin who swears to reunite team rocket tat same guy is in the radio tower during the course of GS.its part of the story and cant be changed.

L Lawliet
May 10th, 2009, 07:51 PM
see now like i was speculating, the pikachu colored pichu could unlock features like regigigas and shaymin.

Fallen
May 10th, 2009, 08:05 PM
I wonder if they'll include Notched Ear Pichu. If they do it'll probably be an event only Pokémon.

Draconic_Renegade
May 10th, 2009, 08:06 PM
see now like i was speculating, the pikachu colored pichu could unlock features like regigigas and shaymin.

Speaking of Pichu's I heard there was going to be a notched-ear pichu event, don't know if it's true or false though.>.>

L Lawliet
May 10th, 2009, 08:09 PM
No I haven't heard anything like that, but maybe there will be as a different sprite for an special in-game pichu.

Draconic_Renegade
May 10th, 2009, 08:12 PM
Well whatever, I hope they do the in-game music justice, I want to hear Silver's theme in HG/SS it'll be like so awesome!=3 Greatest Rival Theme ever.>.>

Fallen
May 10th, 2009, 08:13 PM
We'll just have to wait and see.

I hope Mt. Silver is just as good as it used to be. Hopefully you can battle Red and his level 81 Pikachu. lol

Draconic_Renegade
May 10th, 2009, 08:15 PM
We'll just have to wait and see.

I hope Mt. Silver is just as good as it used to be. Hopefully you can battle Red and his level 81 Pikachu. lol

Hell yeah, and then every time afterward you face him with a stronger team until you have to face him with all LV. 100s.>.>

Fallen
May 10th, 2009, 08:20 PM
That would be awesome if you could hop over to Sinnoh and start your journey there as well.

Sachka
May 10th, 2009, 08:20 PM
:grog: I'm pretty sure they will add the GTS in goldenrod city pkmn center, since Japanese Crystal had it.

Destati
May 10th, 2009, 08:23 PM
Remember people, Pokemon Platinum takes up 99 MBs of a 128 MB cart.

AtomicGreymon
May 10th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Remember people, Pokemon Platinum takes up 99 MBs of a 128 MB cart.

What's the largest possible cart size they can use for a game?

Draconic_Renegade
May 10th, 2009, 08:47 PM
What's the largest possible cart size they can use for a game?

I've heard of 256 MB carts for a few games, but I don't remember which games those were for.>.>

Destati
May 10th, 2009, 09:06 PM
The biggest was 2 gigs. ASH: Archaic Sealed Heat has been the first and only cart to be that big. The bigger the size, the slower the game. Ash gets around that by using a ton of pre-rendering though.

Draconic_Renegade
May 10th, 2009, 09:09 PM
The biggest was 2 gigs. ASH: Archaic Sealed Heat has been the first and only cart to be that big. The bigger the size, the slower the game. Ash gets around that by using a ton of pre-rendering though.

So then it should be fine, besides if they'd originally made GS for DS in the first place with everything they wanted in it it would have been bigger than Platinum anyway.>.>

DanteKoriyu
May 10th, 2009, 09:19 PM
There are about 40 games that are larger than the 128mb cart size.

AtomicGreymon
May 10th, 2009, 10:08 PM
I've heard of 256 MB carts for a few games, but I don't remember which games those were for.>.>

Well, if Platinum is about 99MB of a 128MB cart, then the full Johto and Kanto with taking anything like Kanto's Safari zone could probably theoretically fit onto a 256MB one. They could probably get the Sevii Islands, plus a few new islands onto it as well.

codemonkey85
May 10th, 2009, 10:49 PM
The bigger the size, the slower the game.

Are the Pokémon games really that memory intensive though? Aside from the fact that they now use 3D models (which, by the way, is going to make Johto look freakin' awesome!).


No I haven't heard anything like that, but maybe there will be as a different sprite for an special in-game pichu.

I've been wondering about this myself. I think that more sprite diversity is a feature planned for Gen V, and that they will test the waters in HG and SS, starting with this special Pichu (and maybe others).

I am super pumped to play a DS enhanced version of these games. The graphics, the music... especially the trainer battle music, which is arguably the catchiest tune in Pokémon history.

Draconic_Renegade
May 10th, 2009, 10:54 PM
Are the Pokémon games really that memory intensive though? Aside from the fact that they now use 3D models (which, by the way, is going to make Johto look freakin' awesome!).



I've been wondering about this myself. I think that more sprite diversity is a feature planned for Gen V, and that they will test the waters in HG and SS, starting with this special Pichu (and maybe others).

I am super pumped to play a DS enhanced version of these games. The graphics, the music... especially the trainer battle music, which is arguably the catchiest tune in Pokémon history.

Oh jeez, just thinking about their remix to Red's/Lance's battle theme is giving me goosebumps, and the Rival theme, the single thing which mad Silver more badass than Green, oh jeez.>.>

Mewtwo Ex
May 11th, 2009, 02:06 AM
Mewtwo could never die. He is the greatest creation ever. It would be amazing if they put the Cerulean Cave back in the game though.

How could you even consider it. This is Mewtwo we are talking about! Not some weakling. The world's ultimate weapon.
Sorry for bringing back this post.

PaDdY!
May 11th, 2009, 06:14 AM
i know mewtwo kicks ass!!

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 01:50 PM
me two who dosent want a legal celebii besides some one who hates them
Actually, if Nintendo put it in the game, its 100% legit.

Guested
May 11th, 2009, 04:16 PM
Actually, if Nintendo put it in the game, its 100% legit.

You obviously didn't understand his post.
:(

ZMaster
May 11th, 2009, 04:21 PM
Well, if Platinum is about 99MB of a 128MB cart, then the full Johto and Kanto with taking anything like Kanto's Safari zone could probably theoretically fit onto a 256MB one. They could probably get the Sevii Islands, plus a few new islands onto it as well.

Why would they even put Sevii Islands back. It isn't a remake of R/B/Y at all, and seeing as how Fr/Lg were remakes, the Kanto in HG/SS will most likely be a plain one, like in GSC.

Also, if I mentioned this or not, TEAM ROCKET IS BACK MAYBE XD

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 06:10 PM
Why would they even put Sevii Islands back. It isn't a remake of R/B/Y at all, and seeing as how Fr/Lg were remakes, the Kanto in HG/SS will most likely be a plain one, like in GSC.

Also, if I mentioned this or not, TEAM ROCKET IS BACK MAYBE XD

[i]Of course the Rocket Gang is in there, I mean they were central to the plot of G/S so they should be central to the plot of HG/SS.

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 06:13 PM
You obviously didn't understand his post.
:(
Sorry, I don't. I hope its not too obvious I don't want to look like a fool. Lol.

Mewtwo Ex
May 11th, 2009, 06:13 PM
[i]Of course the Rocket Gang is in there, I mean they were central to the plot of G/S so they should be central to the plot of HG/SS.

If there is a Kanto region there should be Team Rocket there. It's their HQ there and all.

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 06:16 PM
If there is a Kanto region there should be Team Rocket there. It's their HQ there and all.

Team rocket has to come back!Who chould take their place anyway?

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 06:19 PM
There is obviously going to be a Team Rocket and a Kanto region. It's to important to remove from the game.

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 06:23 PM
There was only one Rocket member in Kanto and he had nothing to do with the plot at all, the main base of the Rocket Gang was in Mahogany Town, those of you who actually played GSC should know that, they had no presence in Kanto in GSC.>.>

Mewtwo Ex
May 11th, 2009, 06:25 PM
There is obviously going to be a Team Rocket and a Kanto region. It's to important to remove from the game.

Do you think Nintendo is smart enough? They held a remake of the so called best Pokemon game ever?

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 06:26 PM
I know, I'm trying to say that they are both to important to remove. Team Rocket stopped you a lot, and Kanto is how you get to Indigo Plateau.

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 06:26 PM
There was only one Rocket member in Kanto and he had nothing to do with the plot at all, the main base of the Rocket Gang was in Mahogany Town, those of you who actually played GSC should know that, they had no presence in Kanto in GSC.>.>

Is that the same guy thats in the radio tower?I forget because thats the same guy thats in FRLG.

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 06:27 PM
Oh I so forgot. How about the power plant? A team rocket member hid a missing part in the Cerulean Gym. They are in Kanto.

Mewtwo Ex
May 11th, 2009, 06:27 PM
I know, I'm trying to say that they are both to important to remove. Team Rocket stopped you a lot, and Kanto is how you get to Indigo Plateau.

Just to ask while on the ''MAP''. What is the hardest place in that region?

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 06:32 PM
Just to ask while on the ''MAP''. What is the hardest place in that region?

The hardest Gym in any Pokemon game would be Whitney's Gym, her broken ass Miltank it will destroy any trainer who's unprepared so yeah, just a warning, and hell she's only the third Gym, but after you beat her the rest of the game'll be a cakewalk.=]

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 06:36 PM
The hardest Gym in any Pokemon game would be Whitney's Gym, her broken ass Miltank it will destroy any trainer who's unprepared so yeah, just a warning, and hell she's only the third Gym, but after you beat her the rest of the game'll be a cakewalk.=]

I whould have to agree she was very annoying but if i remember rightly you chould trade a drowzee for a machop in that town...?Even the route to the pkmn leauge and victory road are easy...

Mewtwo Ex
May 11th, 2009, 06:38 PM
The hardest Gym in any Pokemon game would be Whitney's Gym, her broken ass Miltank it will destroy any trainer who's unprepared so yeah, just a warning, and hell she's only the third Gym, but after you beat her the rest of the game'll be a cakewalk.=]

What a downfall i hoped it's extremely hard the new gen of these remakes. I hope they are nothing in the category of difficulty like the originals. I on purpose will take Chikorita to be harder.

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 06:38 PM
I whould have to agree she was very annoying but if i remember rightly you chould trade a drowzee for a machop in that town...?Even the route to the pkmn leauge and victory road are easy...

Yeah, I Granbull'd her the last time I played Crystal but yeah, you can get that Machop.xDD

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 06:41 PM
Yeah, I Granbull'd her the last time I played Crystal but yeah, you can get that Machop.xDD

I used to get him because no other pokemon up to that point was any good in that gym.the last gym was my favourite being a dragon gym and o that kingdra was an annoyance!

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 06:42 PM
I used to get him because no other pokemon up to that point was any good in that gym.the last gym was my favourite being a dragon gym and o that kingdra was an annoyance!

Yeah.xD I love Ibuki/Clair, she's the greatest Gym Leader ever, I also love Mikan/Jasmine.=3

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 06:45 PM
Ahh Whitney. So annoying.

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 06:46 PM
Yeah.xD I love Ibuki/Clair, she's the greatest Gym Leader ever, I also love Mikan/Jasmine.=3

one thing i never got jasmine had 2 magnamites and a stellix why not forretress and scizor two?whould have been way better.I know all the kanto gyms were useless but what one is your fav?mines blaine WAY to easy at that stage.

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 06:48 PM
Kanto would have to Blaine. The place was so weird and burnt up and destroyed.

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 06:48 PM
one thing i never got jasmine had 2 magnamites and a stellix why not forretress and scizor two?whould have been way better.I know all the kanto gyms were useless but what one is your fav?mines blaine WAY to easy at that stage.

I loved Green's Gym and Kasumi/Misty's. I love both of them, especially since you have to interrupt Kasumi's date to get to battle her.xD

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 06:50 PM
LOL. I remember that. It was sweet and funny.

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 06:53 PM
Yep and even then she was a push over as was brock.what are your fav moments in any pokemon game?my 2 came from gold but i will say after i have heard you guys ones.

wraith89
May 11th, 2009, 06:56 PM
one thing i never got jasmine had 2 magnamites and a stellix why not forretress and scizor two?whould have been way better.I know all the kanto gyms were useless but what one is your fav?mines blaine WAY to easy at that stage.

They need stronger gyms. Suggestion: they need a rematch the gym leader function!!

Like for example, the first gym leader should be better than a level 7 Pidgey and a level 9 Pidgeotto!

Falkner:
163
Hoothoot level 12
- Mud Slap
- Hypnosis
- Peck
- Foresight

021
Spearow level 14
- Pursuit
- Fury Attack
- Leer
- Mud Slap

017
Pidgeotto level 16
- Gust
- Mud Slap
- Twister
- Quick Attack

I want more challenging gym leaders :-/

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 06:57 PM
Yep and even then she was a push over as was brock.what are your fav moments in any pokemon game?my 2 came from gold but i will say after i have heard you guys ones.

Hm, well I have multiple favorites but my top two would have to be when you go to Silph Co. in RGBY and you're at the part where you get Lapras and you first get there, and there's Green and he's all like "I've already got all my badges, so this isn't gonna bother me. Have fun beating Team Rocket." And then he just leaves, Green is so badass.xD And the other one was the final battle against Silver at Mt. Moon in Kanto where he finally realizes that he's a douche, but Silver's still cool anyway. Anyway that last event is tied with meeting Red in Mt. Silver and he's all like, "..." and you're all like whoa and that 81 Pikachu.xDD

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 06:57 PM
When you have to deliver the Spearow in Pokémon Gold and Silver. There's nothing interesting about it it's just that I liked delivering that Spearow. How about chasing that Farfetche'd? Getting cut was fun. My all time favorite... BATTLING RED.

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 06:58 PM
They need stronger gyms. Suggestion: they need a rematch the gym leader function!!

Like for example, the first gym leader should be better than a level 7 Pidgey and a level 9 Pidgeotto!

Falkner:
163
Hoothoot level 12
- Mud Slap
- Hypnosis
- Peck
- Foresight

021
Spearow level 14
- Pursuit
- Fury Attack
- Leer
- Mud Slap

017
Pidgeotto level 16
- Gust
- Mud Slap
- Twister
- Quick Attack

I want more challenging gym leaders :-/

Totally agree jasmines should be exactly as i said maybe one magneton tough

wraith89
May 11th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Totally agree jasmines should be exactly as i said maybe one magneton tough

I think I'll post up a thread with an improved roster of each Gym Leader, limited to Kanto and Johto Pokemon. And Jasmine was too easy... I wanted a tough girl for her frail appearance! :)

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 07:02 PM
Oh that would be cool. go ahead and do it Wraith.

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 07:03 PM
Hm, well I have multiple favorites but my top two would have to be when you go to Silph Co. in RGBY and you're at the part where you get Lapras and you first get there, and there's Green and he's all like "I've already got all my badges, so this isn't gonna bother me. Have fun beating Team Rocket." And then he just leaves, Green is so badass.xD And the other one was the final battle against Silver at Mt. Moon in Kanto where he finally realizes that he's a douche, but Silver's still cool anyway. Anyway that last event is tied with meeting Red in Mt. Silver and he's all like, "..." and you're all like whoa and that 81 Pikachu.xDD

red was AWESOME:D,my fav 2 are kinda diffrent 1.beating lance for the first time with only feraligatr on 25hp left...2.me and my friends epic link battle lv100 ho-oh vs my lv100 red gyrados.(only problem with the last one it was so long ago i forget the outcome:(

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 07:05 PM
Who doesn't like Red?

wraith89
May 11th, 2009, 07:06 PM
Who doesn't like Red?

Me. He doesn't talk!! :(

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 07:07 PM
I think I'll post up a thread with an improved roster of each Gym Leader, limited to Kanto and Johto Pokemon. And Jasmine was too easy... I wanted a tough girl for her frail appearance! :)

Go for it!:D will it be the original dex or can we mix it up a little?(we dont know if they will change the dex for HGSS)

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 07:08 PM
Me. He doesn't talk!! :(
HE'S MYSTERIOUS THAT WAY!

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 07:09 PM
Me. He doesn't talk!! :(

Red has no need for words hes the best!:D

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 07:10 PM
Red has no need for words hes the best!:D

Exactly, he's smexlacious.xD

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Exactly.

wraith89
May 11th, 2009, 07:19 PM
Go for it!:D will it be the original dex or can we mix it up a little?(we dont know if they will change the dex for HGSS)

We'll see :)
I think I'll add some Sinnoh evolutions too... because Murkrow and Misdreavus... bleh, not so great. (although Misdreavus was awesome)

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 07:20 PM
Cool. Tell us when you make it. I think this thread changed entirely out of the subject.

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 07:23 PM
Cool. Tell us when you make it. I think this thread changed entirely out of the subject.

its alright that other one about the 3 dogs got a bit out of hand..

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 07:24 PM
Yeah... Would you eat them?

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 07:27 PM
Yeah... Would you eat them?

i really whouldnt:( plus you probably wouldnt get close enough before they kill you anyway

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 07:28 PM
Lol. I wouldn't. I'd keep them as pets.

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 07:29 PM
We'll see :)
I think I'll add some Sinnoh evolutions too... because Murkrow and Misdreavus... bleh, not so great. (although Misdreavus was awesome)

I don't think Honchkrow should be in it as you wouldn't be able to get Murkrow until Kanto anyway, but Mismagius, maybe.>.>

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 07:31 PM
Lol. I wouldn't. I'd keep them as pets.

For me it was real annoying trying to get them all in GS i didnt have the patience for all the running about.they should have a fixed area in HGSS.

wraith89
May 11th, 2009, 07:31 PM
I don't think Honchkrow should be in it as you wouldn't be able to get Murkrow until Kanto anyway, but Mismagius, maybe.>.>

Misdreavus is only available in Mt. Silver... which is the last section of this game @_@
But you see Murkrows on those Team Rocket people anyways, so why not?

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 07:31 PM
Well I've posted enough. I'm going to go wait for the remake by doing stupid stuff. Bye!

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 07:33 PM
Misdreavus is only available in Mt. Silver... which is the last section of this game @_@
But you see Murkrows on those Team Rocket people anyways, so why not?

you should throw in some dragons:D you wont be able to change around the last gym in johto without them

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 07:35 PM
you should throw in some dragons:D you wont be able to change around the last gym in johto without them

You get Ice-types right before the final badge, so yeah.>.> And no, I don't want my precious Gym's corrupted by geh Hoenn & Shinou Pokemon.>.>

PokeDaemon
May 11th, 2009, 07:38 PM
I don't think Honchkrow should be in it as you wouldn't be able to get Murkrow until Kanto anyway, but Mismagius, maybe.>.>

Actually Misdreavus is not catchable until later than Murkrow so both'll be uncatchable until Kanto, Lax? Allowin' trainers to evolve past Johto evolution sounds pretty good once they're past the Indigo Plateau, Lax?

Munch Bro Squintin': Yeah, that could make 'em useful, Squint?

Munch Bro Alert: But that may ruin the Johto remake experience, Hey?

The Snore: Nah, Alert you're a ignormous, Snore?

First off... It's ignoramus... second... congrats you made it through without sleeping... And third, he has a vaild point, Lax?

The Snore: *Snore*... *snore*...

wraith89
May 11th, 2009, 07:38 PM
You get Ice-types right before the final badge, so yeah.>.> And no, I don't want my precious Gym's corrupted by geh Hoenn & Shinou Pokemon.>.>

I won't do that. Don't worry :)
But I will beef up their attacks and levels.

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 07:40 PM
You get Ice-types right before the final badge, so yeah.>.>

jynx swinub and delibird is it?they should throw in a gabite,shelgon or altaria for a bit more toughness.:D(imagine lance then salamence,garchomp and dragonite now that whould be tough:D)

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 07:42 PM
jynx swinub and delibird is it?they should throw in a gabite,shelgon or altaria for a bit more toughness.:D(imagine lance then salamence,garchomp and dragonite now that whould be tough:D)

Yeah, but it would ruin my experience and the experiences of everyone else who hated Hoenn and Shinou.>.> The real Pokemon fans would be offended and leave again, and I'd be lonely.>.>

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 07:44 PM
Yeah, but it would ruin my experience and the experiences of everyone else who hated Hoenn and Shinou.>.> The real Pokemon fans would be offended and leave again, and I'd be lonely.>.>

I see what your saying i really dont want it changed either but they must do something with her(give her something to counter ice pokemon:D)

PokeDaemon
May 11th, 2009, 07:46 PM
jynx swinub and delibird is it?they should throw in a gabite,shelgon or altaria for a bit more toughness.:D(imagine lance then salamence,garchomp and dragonite now that whould be tough:D)

That'd be cool for a second try at the Plateau like in Leaf Green and Fire Red when the Elite Four got stronger Pokemon and from a different region. But I feel that the Gyms should be left unadulterated, Lax?

Munch Bro Squintin': Unadult my rating, Squint?

Munch Bro Alert: I believe he means to be without corruption, Hey?

The Snore: Alert, you're a... *snore*... *snore*... dumbo, Snore?

:( This crew needs an Alakazam, Lax?

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 07:46 PM
I see what your saying i really dont want it changed either but they must do something with her(give her something to counter ice pokemon:D)

Well her Kingdra was a pretty nice foil to Ice-types give her a Gyarados maybe? And strengthen her party to at least LV. 55 and we're good.=3

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 07:50 PM
That'd be cool for a second try at the Plateau like in Leaf Green and Fire Red when the Elite Four got stronger Pokemon and from a different region. But I feel that the Gyms should be left unadulterated, Lax?

Munch Bro Squintin': Unadult my rating, Squint?

Munch Bro Alert: I believe he means to be without corruption, Hey?

The Snore: Alert, you're a... *snore*... *snore*... dumbo, Snore?

:( This crew needs an Alakazam, Lax?

that whould be good for the E4 but some gyms really need improvments especially the kanto ones.

wraith89
May 11th, 2009, 07:52 PM
Well her Kingdra was a pretty nice foil to Ice-types give her a Gyarados maybe? And strengthen her party to at least LV. 55 and we're good.=3

A little below that... usually gym Leaders (even the last one) doesn't go above 50.

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 07:54 PM
that whould be good for the E4 but some gyms really need improvments especially the kanto ones.

A match call feature for stronger Gyms, I might excuse Shinou Pokemon but no Hoenn Pokemon at all.>.> And yeah, you should be able to battle Red multiple times too like once you get your National Dex his party upgrades in levels and once you complete the National Dex his party upgrades again and then battling him again afterward will result in him having a party at all LV. 100.=3

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 07:55 PM
A little below that... usually gym Leaders (even the last one) doesn't go above 50.

dragonair x2 lv 47

gyrados lv 48

kingdra lv 49/50

what you think?

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 07:55 PM
A little below that... usually gym Leaders (even the last one) doesn't go above 50.

Yeah but Giovanni had higher than 60 so yeah.>.> They could make her 55 at least.>.>

4evil
May 11th, 2009, 07:56 PM
the first gym was actually pretty dam fast compared to the others

kanto where you went through the forest
hoenn where you had to do go through a forest again
sinnoh where you had to go through all these stuff just to finally fight roark

johto was like first run through a couple of routes that was small and boom your in town for your gym already

wraith89
May 11th, 2009, 07:58 PM
Yeah but Giovanni had higher than 60 so yeah.>.> They could make her 55 at least.>.>

Nah, the game has 16 gym leaders... I'll make it a little below. The E4 needs to get tough. And the Kanto Gym Leaders (especially Blue) needs to get stronger. I'll devise the sets, you'll have to wait :)

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 07:58 PM
A match call feature for stronger Gyms, I might excuse Shinou Pokemon but no Hoenn Pokemon at all.>.> And yeah, you should be able to battle Red multiple times too like once you get your National Dex his party upgrades in levels and once you complete the National Dex his party upgrades again and then battling him again afterward will result in him having a party at all LV. 100.=3

red upgraded?that thought scares me:Dsomething like the battle ground should be their(after getting national dex)and the people their should get stronger after every victory aswell:D

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 07:59 PM
dragonair x2 lv 47

gyrados lv 48

kingdra lv 49/50

what you think?

I think:

Gyarados LV. 58

Dragonite LV. 55

Dragonair LV. 53

Kingdra LV. 61

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 08:04 PM
I think:

Gyarados LV. 58

Dragonite LV. 55

Dragonair LV. 53

Kingdra LV. 61

it whould be much tougher to beat i like it:D the problem being at some stage before this point in the game the lvls of the peopl you battle whould have to jump about 15-20 levels.if the game was created around this being the final gym the game whould be very hard at either the start or towards the end.

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 08:08 PM
it whould be much tougher to beat i like it:D the problem being at some stage before this point in the game the lvls of the peopl you battle whould have to jump about 15-20 levels.if the game was created around this being the final gym the game whould be very hard at either the start or towards the end.

That would also mean that we may see LV. 80s by Green's Gym.=3 And Red may be in his 90s.>.> Yey! Challenge.=3

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 08:09 PM
That would also mean that we may see LV. 80s by Green's Gym.=3 And Red may be in his 90s.>.> Yey! Challenge.=3

whould you rather it hard at the start or end?

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 08:12 PM
whould you rather it hard at the start or end?

I would rather the end be more difficult, but for the whole game to be harder nonetheless.=3

Endless Eden
May 11th, 2009, 08:18 PM
I would rather the end be more difficult, but for the whole game to be harder nonetheless.=3

mmmh food for thought... well i hate to cut things short Draconic R its been a great discussion and all but its nearing 2 in the morning on my side of the world and i have school on the morning so i must take my leave:DI hope i will speak with you about this again tomorrow?good nite for now then.(i am not sure how it works but add me as a friend if u like)

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 08:19 PM
Alright, 'til next time amigo.=3 Just keep loving those little Pocket Monsters and they'll love you back.xD And sure, I'll addeh yew.=3

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 09:55 PM
I can't wait for the game release to catch the Red Gyarados. I hope its still in the game, it was part of the storyline, so I guess it has to be.

CeoOhmnis
May 11th, 2009, 10:03 PM
I'm curious to know if Shellos or Gastrodon will have a new form or possibly two (because of Kanto). The Pokedex data says that its form varies with the region it's found in.

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 10:03 PM
Hmm, now I'm wondering the same thing.

Draconic_Renegade
May 11th, 2009, 10:07 PM
I'm curious to know if Shellos or Gastrodon will have a new form or possibly two (because of Kanto). The Pokedex data says that its form varies with the region it's found in.

Mantyke is also supposed to change forms depending on region as well.>.>

Destati
May 11th, 2009, 10:08 PM
They might not even be in the game. They look different due to Sinnoh's landscape.

FLOOTENKERP
May 11th, 2009, 10:10 PM
Mantyke to? I didn't know that.

CeoOhmnis
May 11th, 2009, 10:38 PM
More than likely you'll be able to trade Sinnoh Pokemon to HG/SS. I don't see why they wouldn't allow you to. So this means that Shellos and Gastrodon would be available in HG/SS. That also makes it possible to obtain a Shellos in Johto via breeding.

In DPPt the form of a hatched Shellos changed depending on which side of Sinnoh it was hatched on. Maybe a couple new forms would be present in HG/SS. Either that or it'll be the regular 2 forms but one appears in Johto and the other in Kanto.

Now I'm wondering how they would deal with location evolutions. Unless they added new locations or items, that would evolve Eevee into it's 4th gen forms or Magneton to Magnezone etc., you would probably have to trade to DPPt and evolve it there.

wraith89
May 11th, 2009, 10:42 PM
So what happens when you hatch Shellos in Mt. Coronet? Will it turn pink or blue?

BTW guys I posted that gym leader speculation thread... I need to wait until it gets approved.

Delta Blast Burn
May 12th, 2009, 02:45 AM
[QUOTE=wraith89;18994]So what happens when you hatch Shellos in Mt. Coronet? Will it turn pink or blue?
QUOTE]
I Was Wondering That Too

HottSushiz
May 12th, 2009, 03:39 AM
Wouldn't it be better to add difficulty settings, remember kids play this game too, i don't think Nintendo would want an army of overly frustrated kids.

PaDdY!
May 12th, 2009, 06:22 AM
Wouldn't it be better to add difficulty settings, remember kids play this game too, i don't think Nintendo would want an army of overly frustrated kids.

im 12 and when i was 4 i got gold and blitzed it with just typhlosion!

InuYouki
May 12th, 2009, 07:49 AM
Yeah, I don't see how increasing the levels would make the game harder in the sense that kids can't understand it or beat it. And kids these days are crazy smart with games and computers. It is common sense they seem to lack in :/

FLOOTENKERP
May 12th, 2009, 09:22 AM
Difficulty settings are not a good idea. The previous games never had difficulty settings and they turned out just fine. The game is fine the way it is.

codemonkey85
May 12th, 2009, 09:34 AM
Now I'm wondering how they would deal with location evolutions. Unless they added new locations or items, that would evolve Eevee into it's 4th gen forms or Magneton to Magnezone etc., you would probably have to trade to DPPt and evolve it there.

You're probably right, since that's what they did with FR and LG as far as time-based evolutions went. Then again, maybe there will be new areas (akin to the Sevii Islands) that will take care of it.


So what happens when you hatch Shellos in Mt. Coronet? Will it turn pink or blue?

Dude, that's a good question. Has anyone tried it?

My guess is that there will be new formes for Shellos and Gastrodon, especially since I think that more sprite diversity will be a feature to come (based on the notched-ear Pichu).

That Pokemon Guy
May 12th, 2009, 09:52 AM
My guess is that there will be new formes for Shellos and Gastrodon, especially since I think that more sprite diversity will be a feature to come (based on the notched-ear Pichu).

That's the second time I've read about the notched-ear Pichu. What is that supposed to be, anyway? What's it from?

codemonkey85
May 12th, 2009, 10:09 AM
Here's a Serebii news posts regarding the NEP:

http://serebii.net/archive/April-2009.shtml (02-04-2009)

And here's a picture of it on this page:

http://serebii.net/movies/arceus/

So far it's an anime-only thing (tying in with the new Arceus movie), which does not necessarily mean anything for the games, but I think this time it does.

FLOOTENKERP
May 12th, 2009, 10:16 AM
I hope the notch eared Pichu is in the game. That would be so cool.

RedUx
May 12th, 2009, 11:29 AM
I hope the notch eared Pichu is in the game. That would be so cool.

I found two images (sorry for the size) that shows a pichu in the Ilex Forest, and another that shows the main character's outfit. I think only the boy doesn't change.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4030/20568199.png http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8872/semttulolkb.png

Mewtwo Ex
May 12th, 2009, 11:38 AM
They are leaks from the new Coro Coro magazine.
Serebii states that the notched eared pichu has an event that can be triggered if you have it from the movie. So we better get it.
Also from there is saw on their post that the unseens from Fire Red and Leaf Green when entering a part of the map like a cave or a tower.
And finally it appears that there is a new female trainer like in the pictures above. As a supporting role.

That Pokemon Guy
May 12th, 2009, 12:21 PM
You can only do so much with the SAME trainers. I'm glad they changed one of them up. Would have been nice to see a newer male trainer as well, though.

lugialucario
May 12th, 2009, 12:32 PM
I'm sure that the Pichu are the same who are in the movie 12 and the last ending of Japan, but why they created a new female trainer? I like Chrystal

FLOOTENKERP
May 12th, 2009, 12:41 PM
I found two images (sorry for the size) that shows a pichu in the Ilex Forest, and another that shows the main character's outfit. I think only the boy doesn't change.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4030/20568199.png http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8872/semttulolkb.png
Now I'm happy :), but now I'm worried that they might have remapped Ilex Forest. I don't think that's how it was mapped in the original. Did FR and LG remap the dungeons and forests?

codemonkey85
May 12th, 2009, 01:43 PM
I believe FR and LG had some extremely limited map changes, but overall everything was unchanged.

As for Ilex Forest, looks the same to me. That's near the Cherrygrove side, the Celebi shrine there.

Mewtwo Ex
May 12th, 2009, 01:56 PM
I believe FR and LG had some extremely limited map changes, but overall everything was unchanged.

As for Ilex Forest, looks the same to me. That's near the Cherrygrove side, the Celebi shrine there.

That's just what i wanted to point out. The shrine is there and celebi will be too no more doubts.

Invitation To Hades
May 12th, 2009, 02:30 PM
Some of the first details on Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver are in, courtesy of the latest edition of CoroCoro.

-Release date 11th Sept
-Preorders start on July 20th, same date as new movie, speculative preorder movie cross promotion
-From the Johto map, Kanto is hinted at
-Wifi Features Expanded
-Boy/Girl choice
-Skateboard
-Suggested retail price of 4800 yen

Screenshots:

http://i43.tinypic.com/29z278j.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/fon6li.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/1412k54.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2d11tn9.jpg

Artwork:

http://i42.tinypic.com/2wee9np.png
http://i39.tinypic.com/2d8mlhx.png
http://i43.tinypic.com/j82qkm.png

Further News: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15813741&postcount=1164

Scan ahoy - http://i39.tinypic.com/2q2il9y.jpg

bear831
May 12th, 2009, 03:02 PM
Some of the first details on Pokemon Heart Gold and Soul Silver are in, courtesy of the latest edition of CoroCoro.

-Release date 11th Sept
-Preorders start on July 20th, same date as new movie, speculative preorder movie cross promotion
-From the Johto map, Kanto is hinted at
-Wifi Features Expanded
-Boy/Girl choice
-Skateboard
-Boy/Girl choice
-Suggested retail price of 4800 yen

This sounds like it will be great! A skateboard? How does that work is it the new bike? You listed boy/girl choice twice. 4800 yen is about $40USD right? Can't wait for the game hope Kanto is in the game.

Invitation To Hades
May 12th, 2009, 03:08 PM
This sounds like it will be great! A skateboard? How does that work is it the new bike? You listed boy/girl choice twice. 4800 yen is about $40USD right? Can't wait for the game hope Kanto is in the game.

From what I can tell, the Skateboard has been the original design for the bike in Gold/Silver (1999). I guess they dropped that idea and kept the Bike. I wonder though, can it still be accepted in the cycling road...

Edit:
Just emerged from the first pictures of the new edition of Coro Coro Comics on. They show another new artwork and screenshots from the game:

CoroCoro Scans -
http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512...ro062009_01.jpg (http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512_corocoro062009_01.jpg)
http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512...ro062009_02.jpg (http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512_corocoro062009_02.jpg)
http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512...ro062009_03.jpg (http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512_corocoro062009_03.jpg)
http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512...ro062009_04.jpg (http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512_corocoro062009_04.jpg)
http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512...ro062009_05.jpg (http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512_corocoro062009_05.jpg)
http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512...ro062009_06.jpg (http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512_corocoro062009_06.jpg)

(Images curtesy of Filb.de)


Apparently, the Pikachu-Pichu-colored, cinema ticket reservation, even a role. Most likely to follow these new pictures and info on Friday and then on the official Pokémon Web site. At least it should be possible for us to be translations of the new information to post.

Used Google Translation

RedUx
May 12th, 2009, 04:29 PM
There is the possibility that you can pick either one of them.
The bike could be for speed and the skateboard for techniques like the acro bike.

Endless Eden
May 12th, 2009, 04:33 PM
There is the possibility that you can pick either one of them.
The bike could be for speed and the skateboard for techniques like the acro bike.

Or maybe there will be a skate park full of trainer:D like the cue ball.

wraith89
May 12th, 2009, 04:34 PM
Wait, there's a new girl? What's going on here? Is the storyline the same or something? Where's the original Kris? o_O

RedUx
May 12th, 2009, 04:42 PM
Kris is gone my friend. We don't know the name of the girl but they say that she will take part of the story, a suport role, mabye like dawn in DPP.

wraith89
May 12th, 2009, 04:44 PM
Interesting... so I presume the Johto landscape will also be altered as well? Hopefully, because we need stronger gym leaders and more challenges :P

RedUx
May 12th, 2009, 04:58 PM
I hope that the game doesn't end quick, the original storyline was fast, it was almost gym to gym. Team Rocket must have a bigger role in this remake.

wraith89
May 12th, 2009, 05:04 PM
LOL @ the remnant Rocket at Cerulean with a level 38 Golbat... seriously? O.o

Neo
May 12th, 2009, 05:09 PM
Skateboards would be a nice touch to the game. I shall update the Wiki page with this info soon

Guested
May 12th, 2009, 05:13 PM
Wait, there's a new girl? What's going on here? Is the storyline the same or something? Where's the original Kris? o_O

Kris was from Crystal. ;)
So, technically... she was never in Gold or Silver.

wraith89
May 12th, 2009, 05:14 PM
Kris was from Crystal. ;)
So, technically... she was never in Gold or Silver.

Ah! That's true that's true... never thought of that :P

Mewtwo Ex
May 12th, 2009, 05:16 PM
But still is a new character is she not?

Guested
May 12th, 2009, 05:30 PM
But still is a new character is she not?

Yeah, the new girl is a new characater.
Just like they did with FR/LG.

Similar to Kris (look at the hair... style... shape?), but a new character.

wraith89
May 12th, 2009, 05:32 PM
Yeah, the new girl is a new characater.
Just like they did with FR/LG.

Similar to Kris (look at the hair... style... shape?), but a new character.

Isn't the FR/LG girl Blue with a different outfit? I thought she'd be... although her origins are different and she's not the little klepto that she's supposed to be... and they changed her name to Leaf @_@

FLOOTENKERP
May 12th, 2009, 06:18 PM
I know the notch eared Pichu is going to be in the game, but does anyone think we will be able to catch it?

Greencat
May 12th, 2009, 06:48 PM
I want it to appear a few times and then after awhile when your pokes are in there 50s, it will be sad or something and come running to you and allow you to catch it. :P

Endless Eden
May 12th, 2009, 06:50 PM
It chould be part of a new scenario involving the ilex forest....

Mewtwo Ex
May 12th, 2009, 06:56 PM
It chould be part of a new scenario involving the ilex forest....

Hardly.

Draconic_Renegade
May 12th, 2009, 07:39 PM
Yeah, the new girl is a new characater.
Just like they did with FR/LG.

Similar to Kris (look at the hair... style... shape?), but a new character.

She's not Kris! This new wench has no sense of fashion at all.>.> I wanted them to keep Kris! I loved her, now I'll be forced to play the boy character.>.> Ugh! I shall call this new girl Poop Jr!>=]

InuYouki
May 12th, 2009, 07:48 PM
CoroCoro Scans -
http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512...ro062009_01.jpg (http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512_corocoro062009_01.jpg)
http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512...ro062009_02.jpg (http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512_corocoro062009_02.jpg)
http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512...ro062009_03.jpg (http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512_corocoro062009_03.jpg)
http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512...ro062009_04.jpg (http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512_corocoro062009_04.jpg)
http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512...ro062009_05.jpg (http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512_corocoro062009_05.jpg)
http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512...ro062009_06.jpg (http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20090512_corocoro062009_06.jpg)

(Images curtesy of Filb.de)



Does anyone remember what the scans showed? The links are either deleted or don't work. Darn my curiosity XD


EDIT

Never mind XD I checked the news and they are posted there. Thanks anyway :3 I get lost way to easy on forums >.<

Arjun - PeeB4UGo
May 12th, 2009, 10:08 PM
Ugh! I shall call this new girl Poop Jr!>=]

Who's Poop Sr?

On another note, I really hope that the skateboard isn't included -- it kind of destroys the originality of the games having a bike. Also, the new female character shouldn't have been added -- I was looking forward to what Kris would look like in Gen IV gfx :P.

FLOOTENKERP
May 12th, 2009, 10:20 PM
She's not Kris! This new wench has no sense of fashion at all.>.> I wanted them to keep Kris! I loved her, now I'll be forced to play the boy character.>.> Ugh! I shall call this new girl Poop Jr!>=]
Woah! Temper. She looks like a cute female Mario. She looks like she will be a great addition. Although I would've preffered Kris, this girl is fine. I'm a boy anyways so I don't care.

Swampflare
May 12th, 2009, 11:00 PM
I freaked out when this was posted on the forums I main on.

Destati
May 12th, 2009, 11:20 PM
Ugh. I like Gold's new look, but Silver (or whatever you wanna call her)... Looks like a cowgirl or something. Why can't we just have Kris? Why can't we make our own avatars!?

Draconic_Renegade
May 12th, 2009, 11:39 PM
Who's Poop Sr?

On another note, I really hope that the skateboard isn't included -- it kind of destroys the originality of the games having a bike. Also, the new female character shouldn't have been added -- I was looking forward to what Kris would look like in Gen IV gfx :P.

Everyone knows Poop Sr. was Leaf, ugh, she had no sense of fashion either.>.> Neither did Hikari though, and, I'm a guy too, I just have gender issues that still need working out.>.>

codemonkey85
May 12th, 2009, 11:40 PM
Silver is the name of your rival. And Kris (as it was pointed out) represents Crystal, not GS.

That being said, the new female protagonist looks kind of dumb.

Draconic_Renegade
May 12th, 2009, 11:41 PM
Ugh. I like Gold's new look, but Silver (or whatever you wanna call her)... Looks like a cowgirl or something. Why can't we just have Kris? Why can't we make our own avatars!?

Exactly! So I can make one that looks like Kris!=] Or someone even more fashionable.=]

wraith89
May 13th, 2009, 01:17 AM
Everyone knows Poop Sr. was Leaf, ugh, she had no sense of fashion either.>.> Neither did Hikari though, and, I'm a guy too, I just have gender issues that still need working out.>.>

Leaf looked fine in my opinion. The winner of the style clasher is no other than... Gardenia! Seriously... what is that? For a plant type leader... that outfit just isn't right! o_O

Chase-san
May 13th, 2009, 03:22 AM
I only have 3 words: "About bloody time."

PaDdY!
May 13th, 2009, 04:11 AM
Leaf looked fine in my opinion. The winner of the style clasher is no other than... Gardenia! Seriously... what is that? For a plant type leader... that outfit just isn't right! o_O

the girl looks fine i mean shes not Kris but she is still ok

BUT THE WINNER OF THE BEAUTY CONTEST...CYNTHIA!!!:grog::creep::D:D

Guested
May 13th, 2009, 05:02 AM
About Pichu

It chould be part of a new scenario involving the ilex forest....


Hardly.

Uhhhhh.... take a close look at the scans. I can't be sure (the scans suck and are cut off at the folds, so I can't properly read everything), but I'm pretty sure that's the notch-eared Pichu in the Ilex Forest with the Pikachu-colored Pichu. And since Protokoll says that (from what he was able to read) that the P-C Pichu does activate an event in-game, then that's probably what's happening in that picture.

Rant about translations:
Also (on a separate rant), thanks once again, Serebii.net, for giving us a crappy translation! A notch in something is when something is MISSING from something (an INDENTATION). If those pointy angles were pieces MISSING from the Pichu's ear, then I would call it a notch-eared Pichu. HOWEVER, "ぎざぎざ" doesn't ONLY mean notched, it can also mean serrated, jagged, or pointy (with that zig zaggy kind of feeling). SO, I would call the Jagged-eared Pichu, or something more fitting like that.

In fact, from now on, I will NOT be referring to it as the notch-eared Pichu.

(More blantant ranting)
The only thing that sucks more than Serebii's English ability is his Japanese ability. And I'm pretty sick of him giving everyone crappy translations that everyone runs with "cause serebii says so."
I could make a list, honestly.


(back on topic)
About the girl's outfit
For those of you complaining about the new girl's outfit...
I think I MIGHT know why that style was chosen.
Johto is based on the Kansai area of Japan. And ... it's kinda seen by "city-folk" as being the... I dunno... backwater (?) area of the country. A lot of traditionally-minded people. So you could kind of connect that with a farmer/cowboy image, so maybe that's why she's got overalls on.
Another possible reason could just be because overalls have kinda come back into popularity in Japanese youth fashion.

ALSO (10 points for me)
I totally called this!!
Check out the Pokegear! It looks more like a cell-phone than before!
I totally called it!
Now, let's just see if I was right about whether or not the radio towers will be replaced with TV towers.
:D

I'm thinking that the Radio function on the Pokegear will be replaced with a TV. And that the radio towers (in Johto and Kanto) will be TV tours.
And that the pokegear itself will more closely resemble a cell phone.

Since 10 years ago, cell phone usage has exploded in Japan (and everywhere), and the major broadcasting towers in Japan are now mainly Digital (and analog) TV towers. And most people can pick up these digital broadcasts with the digital tuner on their cell phones and watch TV anywhere they're within range. People can even watch TV on their DS if they buy the tuner package.
The only people with portable radios these days in Japan are old people.

So that's my prediction.

Raukue
May 13th, 2009, 07:03 AM
You mean the Pokegear on the arm? Well it does but if you look at it... it wouldn't flip open but rather the front panel would split apart or slide open. I could be wrong. We will have to wait till more comes out to know for sure.

Guested
May 13th, 2009, 07:40 AM
You mean the Pokegear on the arm? Well it does but if you look at it... it wouldn't flip open but rather the front panel would split apart or slide open. I could be wrong. We will have to wait till more comes out to know for sure.

Yeah, there's the one on the guy's arm, and the one hanging from the girl's bag.

You think it does that? I was thinking that the cylinder thing on the end was like a hinge, and that the square section (with the half pokeball designs) would flip open that way like a clamshell cell phone.

What do you think?

FLOOTENKERP
May 13th, 2009, 09:08 AM
I hope they don't change the radio towers with TV towers and make it so you can't listen to music on your Pokégear anymore. In fact I think this will come to the advantage of DSI compatibility, such as being able to play your own songs on the Pokégear. That would be pretty cool. And the radio tower is too big to change. It's what Team Rocket had to take control of for another important plot.

Green
May 13th, 2009, 10:45 AM
is anyone else in the US preordering i no im gona:kikkoman:

---------- Post added at 10:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:44 AM ----------

well we can only hope at this point! but dsi comp would be great

RedUx
May 13th, 2009, 11:09 AM
According to the CoroCoro scans the touch screen will be like this:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0509/corocoro-clearer-1.jpg
You can see the bag, your pokemon team, your trainer card, save and options.
From the space that is left in the touchscreen must be for the pokegear. I think it will be easier to access to the menu from now on.

Mewtwo Ex
May 13th, 2009, 11:39 AM
According to the CoroCoro scans the touch screen will be like this:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0509/corocoro-clearer-1.jpg
You can see the bag, your pokemon team, your trainer card, save and options.
From the space that is left in the touchscreen must be for the pokegear. I think it will be easier to access to the menu from now on.

It would appear so. And under the leaf to the right is a red button, there will obvious be another use for the touch screen.

RedUx
May 13th, 2009, 11:47 AM
That must be a button to change the way you want the touch screen like in DPP that has the poketech functions.

Mewtwo Ex
May 13th, 2009, 11:52 AM
That must be a button to change the way you want the touch screen like in DPP that has the poketech functions.

Yes and this is one function i believe.

FLOOTENKERP
May 13th, 2009, 01:26 PM
Hmm, do you guys think they will replace the Radio Tower with a TV Tower, asnd make it so you can only watch television on you pokétech rather than listen to music?

codemonkey85
May 13th, 2009, 01:34 PM
I don't think they would do that. If we get a "TV" add-on to the PokéGear, I imagine it would still retain radio functionality.

I'm not really expecting a pocket TV though. If anything, it'll just be the normal PokéGear functions + some (if not all) of the Pokétch functions.

But those wishing to hear their own music through use of a DSi and an SD card are probably out of luck.

Guested
May 13th, 2009, 04:20 PM
Flootenkerp:
I don't really thinking changing it from radio to TV would change the functionality of the device in-game all that much. I think it will just be a change in name. Think about what happens when you watch a TV in a house in D/P/P. I'm sure we'd still get the music and "radio program" type things just the same way.
Also, when I said that they could change the radio tower to a tv tower, I didn't mean that they'd change the PLOT surround those things. Read the post I did about that originally and you'll see that the towers in Japan are mainly TV broadcasting towers these days. If Team Rocket hijacked one of those, it'd be basically the same thing.

PokeDaemon
May 13th, 2009, 04:37 PM
Flootenkerp:
I don't really thinking changing it from radio to TV would change the functionality of the device in-game all that much. I think it will just be a change in name. Think about what happens when you watch a TV in a house in D/P/P. I'm sure we'd still get the music and "radio program" type things just the same way.
Also, when I said that they could change the radio tower to a tv tower, I didn't mean that they'd change the PLOT surround those things. Read the post I did about that originally and you'll see that the towers in Japan are mainly TV broadcasting towers these days. If Team Rocket hijacked one of those, it'd be basically the same thing.

Actually they would have to change one thin', and that is that the Gyarados in the Lake of Rage were evolving rapidly due to the radio signal; now I'm not to sure, but Gyarados don't normally watch TV, Lax? Honestly, I don't see the practical reasons behind changing the tower, but I can see that as a nice feature.

Anyway, to the topic at hand. Well, the TV could be used to regularly communicate with the more important members, but that may mean voice acting in a game... Would, or even could, Nintendo dare put voice acting into a game, Hey?

HottSushiz
May 13th, 2009, 05:26 PM
But why would the Poketch even exist? it didn't even get invented till Pokemon Diamond, and Pearl.

Endless Eden
May 13th, 2009, 05:29 PM
I think they have gotten rid of the start button menu all together and put it all on the touch screen

PokeDaemon
May 13th, 2009, 05:35 PM
But why would the Poketch even exist? it didn't even get invented till Pokemon Diamond, and Pearl.

That's not a Pokétch that is a Pokégear. A Pokégear is essentially a radio-enabled phone in the Johto region, Lax? For convenience, Gold kept it on his wrist (It also appeared to have the ability to send a live stream of the person on the other line in the anime.), Lax? The Pokégear is Johto's Pokétch, and, for the sake of just adding in other things, the Pokénav is Hoenn's Pokétch, Lax?

codemonkey85
May 13th, 2009, 09:18 PM
But why would the Poketch even exist? it didn't even get invented till Pokemon Diamond, and Pearl.

Well, I figure (like a lot of people do) that FR and LG take place at the same time as RSE, and to the same token, that HG and SS take place at the same time as DPPt.

Don't forget, when HG and SS come out, they will be compatible with the Sinnoh Pokémon, which "weren't discoverd" until DPPt either.


That's not a Pokétch that is a Pokégear.

Right, but if it's controlled with the touchscreen now (unconfirmed) then it stands to reason that it would support the same features as the Pokétch, and it would be nice not to lose some of those apps in the transition from DPPt to HGSS.

PokeDaemon
May 13th, 2009, 09:51 PM
Well, I figure (like a lot of people do) that FR and LG take place at the same time as RSE, and to the same token, that HG and SS take place at the same time as DPPt.

Don't forget, when HG and SS come out, they will be compatible with the Sinnoh Pokémon, which "weren't discoverd" until DPPt either.



Right, but if it's controlled with the touchscreen now (unconfirmed) then it stands to reason that it would support the same features as the Pokétch, and it would be nice not to lose some of those apps in the transition from DPPt to HGSS.

Realistically, HG/SS probably won't have very many new additions in terms of something that most people just used to tell time. There are somethings that I may miss, like the Counter App so that I can track EV's, or the Snorlax Cooking Timer App (For reasons I don't feel the need to be discussed, Lax?), even the Kecleon Color Changer is fun to mess with. Other Apps would include the Day-Care App and the Tracking Map App, Lax? It's possible, if a TV were implemented, for those Apps to continue; the Day-Care App would actually be a live stream for example. Or the Tracking Map App would a reporter reporting the location of a rare Pocket Monster, or the Beasts, Lax?

codemonkey85
May 13th, 2009, 10:22 PM
the Day-Care App would actually be a live stream for example.

...I don't think it's safe or healthy to go there.

Anyway, you named off some fairly useful apps there, and I still feel as though at least some of them will make it, probably with aesthetics to more closely resemble the PokéGear.

Either way, the apparent importance of the touch screen could be a good thing. (I keep wondering what they'll do for Gen V, if they don't keep the dual / touch screen functionality.)

RedUx
May 14th, 2009, 05:16 AM
I think that the Day-Care App is certain to appear because it was in GSC that the Day-Care was introduced to the game.

---------- Post added at 10:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:28 AM ----------

More scans are here! This time it's from famitsu.
"In regards to the shiny Pichu that you can download for preordering a 12th movie ticket, "Pikachu-Colored Pichu," it is now confirmed that it will activate an event when transferred from Platinum to the games. The magazine says, "It looks like having Pikachu-Colored Pichu in your party triggers an event with Notched-Ear Pichu." So the Pichu will definitely be a special one like the movie Regigigas last year, which unlocked the caverns of the other Regis in Platinum. This information also confirms that the Notched-Ear Pichu will be in the games and is not just a movie-exclusive character. Considering that the event takes place in Ilex Forest, and this is just speculation, one of the Pichu might have something to do with the GS Ball.

The Arceus section in the scans is just showing its different PokeDex entries in Diamond and Pearl. It also says that in Platinum, you can hear the legend of Arceus from a hiker in the Oreburgh Mine and then later in the Canalave Library when you have the Arceus from the movie event in your party. The legend just summarizes what we already know about the legendaries of Sinnoh in that Arceus is the creator and Dialga, Palkia, and the lake trio were born from it."

Mewtwo Ex
May 14th, 2009, 05:50 AM
We know this information. It was posted earlier. Please read previous posts.

Matt140
May 14th, 2009, 10:30 AM
...I don't think it's safe or healthy to go there.

Anyway, you named off some fairly useful apps there, and I still feel as though at least some of them will make it, probably with aesthetics to more closely resemble the PokéGear.

Either way, the apparent importance of the touch screen could be a good thing. (I keep wondering what they'll do for Gen V, if they don't keep the dual / touch screen functionality.)

Hmm.. If Nintendo do decide to lose the touch screen functions, they'd have a lot of unhappy fans on their hands. The ability to save will also be better, i'm sure it'll help those who forget to save.

Also, on the subject of changing the Radio Towers to TV Towers, I highly doubt they'd implement them, as they play a very important role throughout the game. They may introduce TV-like functionality, but probably won't remove anything to do with the radio.

ZMaster
May 14th, 2009, 03:52 PM
Hmm.. If Nintendo do decide to lose the touch screen functions, they'd have a lot of unhappy fans on their hands. The ability to save will also be better, i'm sure it'll help those who forget to save.

Also, on the subject of changing the Radio Towers to TV Towers, I highly doubt they'd implement them, as they play a very important role throughout the game. They may introduce TV-like functionality, but probably won't remove anything to do with the radio.

Ah, yes, the Phone Calls. Anyone still remember it? XD

wraith89
May 14th, 2009, 03:53 PM
Ah, yes, the Phone Calls. Anyone still remember it? XD

"Oh, I almost caught a RATTATA the other day! Oh it was soooooooooooooooooooooo close! See ya later!"

*beep beep*

...

InuYouki
May 14th, 2009, 03:56 PM
"Oh, I almost caught a RATTATA the other day! Oh it was soooooooooooooooooooooo close! See ya later!"

*beep beep*

...

LOL I was just thinking the same thing XD I would HATE it when they would call me with such useless stuff like that. I would be like, OMG I DON"T CARE ABOUT YOUR STUPID RATTATA! KTNX BYE!

I remember I would always call Professor Elm just to see if he would say something different. Young minds are so easily amused :bidoof:

RedUx
May 14th, 2009, 04:16 PM
I've been wondering... will the apricorns apear in this remake? It was one of the unique things that GSC had.

wraith89
May 14th, 2009, 04:18 PM
I have no idea. Do you think they'll just become the balls in DPP and RSE instead?

Aqueel
May 14th, 2009, 04:18 PM
I actually liked the phone calls, they immersed you into the game more.

Of course, it was annoying when they repeated themselves.

If they put some more time into the phone call system though, it could be great. They could update you on locations of legendaries, rumors that could lead you to secrets, and give you interesting stories. Perhaps even comment on things they've heard about you.

wraith89
May 14th, 2009, 04:21 PM
Crystal had better ones... some of the people would give you items (like Fisherman Tull and Water Stones, Lass Dana and Thunderstones, Schoolboy Alan and Fire Stones, Picknicker Gina and Leaf Stones, etc...)

InuYouki
May 14th, 2009, 04:28 PM
Oh i forgot about those ones! It has been so many years T^T Oh if only my games hadn't died!

wraith89
May 14th, 2009, 04:30 PM
My games died too... it'll never allow me to save again X_X

InuYouki
May 14th, 2009, 04:35 PM
*sigh* My poor Typhloson and TarTar. They were my pride and joy T^T I will revive them I tell you!

wraith89
May 14th, 2009, 04:37 PM
Too bad they won't be as strong as they used to be... the EV caps were implemented now :P

Draconic_Renegade
May 14th, 2009, 04:39 PM
Woosh! I'm here now, you're all saved.>.> Missed me guys? Been a couple days since my last post so yeah.=] Anyway, they'd better have Apricorns!>.> They were bwallin'.=D

Mewtwo Ex
May 14th, 2009, 04:45 PM
How did games ''die'' in gold and silver?

Aqueel
May 14th, 2009, 04:47 PM
The gameboy and gameboy color Pokemon games had an internal battery to store your save games. Once that died, any saves you made would disappear.

BTW, there's a guide to replace that battery.

http://www.pokemasters.net/forums/showthread.php?t=15464

In case any of you were interested....I've never done it myself, but it should work if you're careful enough. Wouldn't recommend this to any kids >_>

InuYouki
May 14th, 2009, 04:50 PM
Too bad they won't be as strong as they used to be... the EV caps were implemented now :P

Do you enjoy killing my dreams D= *sobs*

Mewtwo Ex
May 14th, 2009, 04:51 PM
Sound's somewhat un thought to the end. Internal battery to die... Sounds a bit dum and pointless. Was it possibly to avoid?