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Nobody can't tell you how to play it early because there's no way anyone got the needed seeds yet.

Traiver has the original games. I already have them as well. But that's all. Without the seeds you can only partially decrypt the games (they have multiple decryption layers) and those won't be published until the release date (maybe a few hour earlier).

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44 minutes ago, BlackShark said:

Nobody can't tell you how to play it early because there's no way anyone got the needed seeds yet.

Traiver has the original games. I already have them as well. But that's all. Without the seeds you can only partially decrypt the games (they have multiple decryption layers) and those won't be published until the release date (maybe a few hour earlier).

To add to that: Read through @SciresM's excellent writeup on the topic of game encryption.

That aside, a seed shouldn't go up even just a second earlier. The time it goes live seems to be some kind of automatic mechanism as far as I know. However, it seems that occasionally, it is unlocked for short periods of time; I presume that is part of testing (from the linked writeup: "The Legend of Zelda: Triforce Heroes, for example, had its content lock seed published a month before its release date, despite being pre-purchasable. This meant that anyone who was paying attention could have been playing that game several weeks in advance, though I don't know that anyone publically exploited this."). However, I'd be surprised if Nintendo hadn't stepped up their security and stopped testing in production after those blunders.

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where does it say there won't be bank support for these on release date its kinda stupid they delay bank

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Hmmm?

For one, bank support has never been on time.

Some sites originally indicated Transporter service slated to be same day as USUM release date (I think Korean?), but I guess that is gonna be delayed too.
 

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they also could have done rby gs in the gen 6 days but they wanted to wait for Pokemon's 20 anniversary which i don't like since there wan't a good way to play the originals officially  until the vc since they had dead battery's in them.

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Turns out the UK VC Mew for Gen. I is broken when traded to Gen. II, because they had marked it as nicknamed and set the empty name spaces to 00 rather than 50, which makes it display as MEW??????? in-game.

Also they specifically skipped one title ID per region to leave room for Crystal (goes JPN Gold 0004000000172300, JPN Silver 0004000000172400, ENG Gold 0004000000172600, ENG Silver 0004000000172700, GER Gold 0004000000172900, GER Silver 0004000000172A00, etc.) Gen. I went JPN Red 0004000000170C00 all the way to ITA Yellow 0004000000171e00 without skipping numbers.

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6 hours ago, ajxpk said:

@theSLAYER saw it at @SciresM's Twitter.
And a GBA BIOS is in there too... 
 


Actually I tested the patches before SciresM posted lol,
since I was aware they bundled all the patches together previously.

But I totally wasn't aware of the gba bios XD
 

3 hours ago, Sabresite said:

How do we apply these patches to current Crystal?


there's a folder with the game, swap out the game with Crystal, rename the game to match the patch.
(it's similar to the internal name of the game, seen at 0x13F)

However, I'm having issues with Japanese Crystal; it crashes the 3DS. ENG Crystal worked fine for me, and it trades!
 

23 minutes ago, Ammako said:

Turns out the UK VC Mew for Gen. I is broken when traded to Gen. II, because they had marked it as nicknamed and set the empty name spaces to 00 rather than 50, which makes it display as MEW??????? in-game.

Also they specifically skipped one title ID per region to leave room for Crystal (goes JPN Gold 0004000000172300, JPN Silver 0004000000172400, ENG Gold 0004000000172600, ENG Silver 0004000000172700, GER Gold 0004000000172900, GER Silver 0004000000172A00, etc.) Gen. I went JPN Red 0004000000170C00 all the way to ITA Yellow 0004000000171e00 without skipping numbers.


Yeah, because they use the wrong terminator, it means the remaining characters in the names are corrupted.

Yeah, they indeed left enough space, hahaha.

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How about the Japanese Mew? Can't remember its Trash Bytes. I hope it's fine. 

Btw. I have read the patch for Japanese Crystal. It appears they patched the Mobile System Boot Logo away which is strange. Almost makes me wonder if it's activated by default. Otherwise this doesn't make sense, the Boot Logo can only be seen after the Mobile System Activation. There is no reason for this, why would they patch it?

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2 minutes ago, ajxpk said:

How about the Japanese Mew? Can't remember its Trash Bytes. I hope it's fine. 

Btw. I have read the patch for Japanese Crystal. It appears they patched the Mobile System Boot Logo away which is strange. Almost makes me wondering if it's activated by default. Otherwise this doesn't make sense, because the Boot Logo can be only seen after the Mobile System Activation. Why would they patch it?


If I recall correctly the Japanese one also uses invalid terminators.
I had a post that details the breakdown of the Mew's data, but I can't find it right now.

Also, I found it oddly suspicious that the patch for the Japanese Crystal, is the largest of them all. (and that I couldn't boot it)

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4 minutes ago, Sabresite said:

So trading from gen 1 to 2 is working? Nice. 

Also mew from gen 1 to 2 to bank means corrupted name in gen 7? Sigh....

 

Actually we don't know if they'll ignore the invalid terminator if transferred from Gen 2, or even worse, not allow the transfer.

they ignored the terminator from Gen 1 (or maybe they simply treated it as an invalid name and renicknamed it)

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its better to glitch mews in this game then rby since the cloning is much safer in this game and won't corrupt you save. also coincase is much safer then 8f i crashed the game once with 8f and my save file is gone ive crashed pokemon gold a few times with coin case and nothing happed to my save . i also can't get mystery gift to work on crystal.

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48 minutes ago, hacks said:

its better to glitch mews in this game then rby since the cloning is much safer in this game and won't corrupt you save. also coincase is much safer then 8f i crashed the game once with 8f and my save file is gone ive crashed pokemon gold a few times with coin case and nothing happed to my save . i also can't get mystery gift to work on crystal.


Maybe the Crystal patches aren't complete.
I can't even load up japanese crystal (lol)

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11 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

Also, I found it oddly suspicious that the patch for the Japanese Crystal, is the largest of them all. (and that I couldn't boot it

The only reason I could imagine for this is that they might have removed the communication center to match international versions.

I hope they will release Crystal soon, they already gave enough hints. It's far more interesting than GS.....

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Like I already said, they disabled the Mobile System Boot Screen. So things are getting really interesting...
This could actually mean they removed the content or even the complete opposite. It could possibly mean that the Pokemon Communication Center is supported in some kind of way. Keep in mind that the Screen can only be seen once the Mobile System is activated. Why would they have to disable it in the first place if they never plan to activate it? And from what I know the Boot Screen is not even necessary for the Mobile Features, but it wouldn't make sense to use the term "Mobile System GB" so the removal would make sense + without the Screen the Game boots faster so this is appreciate it in case they want to support it. ;)

For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, this is the Screen:

Mobile System GB.png

Edit:
@Sabresite don't worry. VC Gen 1 Mew > Gen 2 > Gen 7 should be fine.
Nothing happens with the Name. The error occurs because the way Gen 2 Games reads text is different.
Like @Ammako said the ?s are actually nothing more than the 0 padding after the Mew Name.
Normally a Name ends with a Terminator 0x50, so the Game continues to read the Name until it finally finds the Terminator.
And since propably 0x00 is invalid input... (Space isn't possible in terms of Names...) it ends up being displayed as "?"...
Possibly a placeholder for unmapped indexes or something like that, I don't know.
 

VC Gen 1 Event Mew - Question Marks.png

Even PKHeX has issues with it...
 

151 - _oCㄱㄱ - FB94.pk2

The funny question now is which Mew is more glitched? oC Gen 1 Glitch Mew or this? ㄱㄱ

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My boxed copies had arrived when I got home today. The only thing in the box was the actual download code, no poster, magnet or any bonus content.

For anyone who wants to see:

pokemon-gs-3ds.jpg.6e40c22c4135d2d2859d382c3b6500aa.jpg

I thought it would be neat to do a Pokemon GEN 2 though the generations photo:

pokemon-gen-2.jpg.d1b5c747d683068681a5af6ebdb6a0b9.jpg

Time to start my GEN 2 adventure on the 3DS :)

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At the moment what save manager can we use to extract and inject saves with?  Currently JKSM isn't recognizing the game on the system and SaveDataFiler corrupts the save every time I attempt to inject a save.

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44 minutes ago, Poke J said:

At the moment what save manager can we use to extract and inject saves with?  Currently JKSM isn't recognizing the game on the system and SaveDataFiler corrupts the save every time I attempt to inject a save.

you can do a backup with the Jksm, you need "Refresh Games" to recognize the new titles, and the choose SD/CIA ->Pokemon Gold or Silver.

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1 hour ago, Poke J said:

At the moment what save manager can we use to extract and inject saves with?  Currently JKSM isn't recognizing the game on the system and SaveDataFiler corrupts the save every time I attempt to inject a save.

 

I used SaveDataFiler, start a new game on the 3DS and save it.

Now export the save with SaveDataFiler

Keep in mind if you are injecting a save from an original game cartridge or emulator then you need to open the save in an hex editor (HxD is easy to use and free) and delete the last two lines of the save file like so:

pokemon-gen-2-vc-save.jpg.c6ae70d413f256f94614febdbc769343.jpg

After doing this save the modifications on HxD and then rename your save file to sav.dat

You can now overwrite the sav.dat you dumped with the sav.dat you wish to restore.

Finally restore the save with SaveDataFiler and be sure to then find the games title in user tab of SaveDataFiler and delete the secure value (01726 = Pokemon Gold, 01727 = Pokemon Silver)

Your save should load perfectly fine then.

Their is a tool here that should do the above hex editing for you, however my save game always showed up as corrupted when i tried to use that: 

 

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