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  On 8/27/2017 at 5:25 PM, Ruby Genseki said:

It somehow bothers me to see how you deliberarely fled that shiny Starly ._. I mean, considering the other wild Pokémon weren't shiny I'm assuming it's most likely legal.

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No need to worry. It appeared because I'm abusing the Cute Charm glitch :P

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With all these similar threads, I can't keep track of what was said where. But as I had said last week, I would try to obtain the Shelmet/Karrablast distro rom and then provide its hidden debug Litwic

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@Purin I was talking about how to get oras demo anytime.

 

At hex offset 108d6a in the debug crystal rom kabiin

venasaur's 4-byte OT name can be found. The I'd is 23 01 in hex just before that. This should be enough to extract the pokemon.

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O.O. so...

is anyone else who's barely going to start learning C a bit lost here?

I understand most of it but the rest....

I'm having trouble with hexadecimal.. :/.

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  On 8/27/2017 at 8:53 PM, St. GIGA said:

At hex offset 108d6a in the debug crystal rom kabiin

venasaur's 4-byte OT name can be found. The I'd is 23 01 in hex just before that. This should be enough to extract the pokemon.

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So actually I have a RAM dump of the debug trades but even with the map I'm unable to understand where to search. Maybe @BlackShark will be able to do it?

But I have a bad feeling about them (missing datas).

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In that case if we cannot extract them we can reconstruct them based on some of the other debugger pokemon in my save of JPN debuggers pokemon.

 

To reconstruct the Venasaur I took Satoru Iwata's Meganium and changed the ID and OT to Nishino's, while I changed the other dumped DEBUG Charizard to the ID and OT of Matsumiya. Do note that these are reconstructions so you know what bytes to look for in the dump file. They may also replace the others if we can't dump them under new policy, therefore making this a troll Charizard/Venasaur. These edits still belonged to debuggers, and the edit was in their power to do via another debug menu in the patch that GG codes can give you. No caught data for you :{ No moves were edited, so Venasaur is legal, and debug charizard keeps it's debug moves.

RECONSTRUCTED_JPN_DEBUGGERS_PKMN.savFetching info...

006 - リザードン - 5F4A.pk2Fetching info...

003 - フシギバナ - D8E9.pk2Fetching info...

JPNDEBUGGERS_WITH_RECONSTRUCTED_DEBUG_TRADES.zipFetching info...

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I have a question. How would I provide my Roaming Darkrai file in the downloads section? All the options are grayed out.

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@Aurum Do you know if Darkrai has the roaming data in Diamond and Pearl also, or just Platinum? To me it seems like a scrapped feature that would've been carried over from DP code, rather than something scrapped from Platinum development, but that's just my speculation.

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I was thinking the same when I discovered this yesterday. In fact, the Darkrai that is found on Newmoon Island in DP is at lvl. 40 as well. I haven't tested if it exists in DP as well. I'll test it asap, though.

EDIT: Yup, it exists in DP as well:

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@Aurum Thanks for checking it out! I guess that confirms our theory then.

I wonder if this could infer that at one point Darkrai wasn't meant to be a mythical pokemon, rather a regular in-game legendary. Perhaps more likely though, it was still supposed to be a mythical, but flee from New Moon Island once you gain access to it, as it is Cresselia's counterpart.

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  On 8/28/2017 at 10:02 PM, wrathsoffire76 said:

Has anyone thought of getting the Battle Factory rentals from Platinum and HGSS? That would be cool (And large)

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Aren't those Pokemon randomly generated each time? Or is there actually a list of Pokemon that are possible to rent? I mean if they are random this would be too much to get them as you can literally get anything there with a few exceptions.

By the way for Platinum (US) while you are in the Battle Factory you will find the Pokemon from the selection screen in the RAM at 0x022AE2B0 - 0x022AE837

Here's an example from Lv 50 SIngle Battle: Treecko.ek4

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  On 8/28/2017 at 11:22 PM, BlackShark said:

Aren't those Pokemon randomly generated each time? Or is there actually a list of Pokemon that are possible to rent? I mean if they are random this would be too much to get them as you can literally get anything there with a few exceptions.

By the way for Platinum (US) while you are in the Battle Factory you will find the Pokemon from the selection screen in the RAM at 0x022AE2B0 - 0x022AE837

Here's an example from Lv 50 SIngle Battle: Treecko.ek4

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They are random, but there is a fixed list of them. I think the full list is on Smogon.

Update: I found the list

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-frontier-max-stats-pokemon-database.15426/

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  On 8/28/2017 at 10:18 PM, Deoxyz said:

I wonder if this could infer that at one point Darkrai wasn't meant to be a mythical pokemon, rather a regular in-game legendary. Perhaps more likely though, it was still supposed to be a mythical, but flee from New Moon Island once you gain access to it, as it is Cresselia's counterpart.

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It's always seemed so strange for Darkrai to be a mythical Pokémon while its counterpart is just a regular ol' legendary. Maybe it's just me, but it feels so uncanny.

 

  On 8/28/2017 at 11:22 PM, BlackShark said:

Aren't those Pokemon randomly generated each time? Or is there actually a list of Pokemon that are possible to rent?

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Partially. While things such as PID, gender, ability, and sometimes IVs* are randomly generated, all of these Pokémon have a preset nature, moveset, items, and most times IVs*.

*IVs are a particular case, since, as far as I remember, non-Super Battle Subway and Maison use Pokémon with randomly generated IVs, whereas "Super" modes have all set to 31.

Adding to what wrathsoffire76 said, Smogon keeps a full list of these preset characteristics (be it for rent Pokémon or for NPC ones), not only for Battle Factory but for every battle facility. Serebii and Bulbapedia have these lists as well, and while the latter ones are easier to navigate, Smogon is usually a bit more technical.

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Now that I'm thinking about it, does this roaming Darkrai have the same initial moveset as the New Moon Island one in DP? That could further the theory of its original intent.

I can't find the DP New Moon Island Darkrai's initial moveset anywhere online, and my old Diamond Darkrai isn't untouched. From looking at my Platinum though, that New Moon Island Darkrai has a different moveset since it is 10 levels higher.

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  On 8/29/2017 at 3:27 AM, Deoxyz said:

Now that I'm thinking about it, does this roaming Darkrai have the same initial moveset as the New Moon Island one in DP? That could further the theory of its original intent.

I can't find the DP New Moon Island Darkrai's initial moveset anywhere online, and my old Diamond Darkrai isn't untouched. From looking at my Platinum though, that New Moon Island Darkrai has a different moveset since it is 10 levels higher.

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I've got the file on site.
I just checked, NMI darkrai moves are Quick Attack, Hypnosis, Pursuit, Nightmare.
(Well, if it's encountered at the same level, and the game uses the same method of generating moves in a Pokemon,
It's gonna have the same moves, tho)

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The Roaming one has Feint Attack instead of Pursuit.

 

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Anybody know if a Korean Manaphy Egg was distributed? Or a way to activate the event as close as it would've been intended.

Pokemon Ranger wasn't released in Korea, but the location met and associated text might be translated (if unused) in the gen 4 games.

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  On 8/29/2017 at 4:23 AM, Lum said:

Anybody know if a Korean Manaphy Egg was distributed? Or a way to activate the event as close as it would've been intended.

Pokemon Ranger wasn't released in Korea, but the location met and associated text might be translated (if unused) in the gen 4 games.

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It's a bit off topic but 2 Manaphy were distributed (not as egg unfortunately) in gen4 in Korea (here) and 1 in gen6 to commemorate the movie.

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  On 8/29/2017 at 4:23 AM, Lum said:

Anybody know if a Korean Manaphy Egg was distributed? Or a way to activate the event as close as it would've been intended.

Pokemon Ranger wasn't released in Korea, but the location met and associated text might be translated (if unused) in the gen 4 games.

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If you take a look at the Manaphy Egg PGT files from other regions you will notice that they don't differ. So I would assume that a Korean Manaphy Egg PGT would have been identical as well. They all don't have a wondercard (PCD) anyway.

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  On 8/29/2017 at 9:50 AM, BlackShark said:

If you take a look at the Manaphy Egg PGT files from other regions you will notice that they don't differ. So I would assume that a Korean Manaphy Egg PGT would have been identical as well. They all don't have a wondercard (PCD) anyway.

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Okay. OT and nickname don't matter for eggs. That just leaves the question of how make the game display the Korean equivalents of "A very mysterious Pokemon Egg that came from Pokemon Ranger" and "Pokemon Ranger Egg Arrived".

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  On 8/29/2017 at 10:20 AM, Lum said:

 

Okay. OT and nickname don't matter for eggs. That just leaves the question of how make the game display the Korean equivalents of "A very mysterious Pokemon Egg that came from Pokemon Ranger" and "Pokemon Ranger Egg Arrived".

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That is read from the ROM, it's not stored in the Pokemon data. There are just index values so the game knows what to display.

By the way, it's interestng how the decrypted Manaphy Egg PGT looks like. The species isn't even in the PKM data, it's only determined by the gift type. They really could have left the PKM data blank like they do for other non-PKM gift types.

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