Kaphotics Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Also, did anybody have a look at this program called "Instacheck" at the smogon forum? They seem to have gotten data called Shiny value from pokemons. I don't think they posted any information or documentation about. Anybody have a clue about this? I see that xfr is credited for the research too ( TID ^ SID >> 4 ) = Trainer Shiny Value ( PIDlow^PIDhigh >> 4 ) = PKM Shiny Value If both xor'd together = 0, the Pokemon is shiny. It's always been this way; it's just a new fan term for it since it is a bit more abusable. Nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 ( TID ^ SID >> 4 ) = Trainer Shiny Value( PIDlow^PIDhigh >> 4 ) = PKM Shiny Value If both xor'd together = 0, the Pokemon is shiny. It's always been this way; it's just a new fan term for it since it is a bit more abusable. Nothing new. Fairly sure anything in the range 0 to 7 gives shiny, not just 0. That makes it the 8 in 65536 chance that has remained the same since the first shiny Pokemon in GSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandixon Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Fairly sure anything in the range 0 to 7 gives shiny, not just 0. That makes it the 8 in 65536 chance that has remained the same since the first shiny Pokemon in GSC. The 8 in 65536 chance is from the Trainer and PKM shiny values. What Kaphotics posted is correct, to the best of my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabby250 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Fairly sure anything in the range 0 to 7 gives shiny, not just 0. That makes it the 8 in 65536 chance that has remained the same since the first shiny Pokemon in GSC. The right shift (>>) already excluded the 0 to n range, so what Kaphotics said was correct. (The only change was that in previous generations, the shift value was 3.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzman Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 With people having no complaints with >> 4 values, I assume that the theory of final XOR value being less than 15 was confirmed. Does it also prove that 16+ will result non-shiny pokemon? I've yet to see any shinies with their "shiny values" differ by 1 bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Blast Burn Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I just noticed there's no information for bytes 0x72 and 0x73 on the wiki, it goes straight move 4 id at hatching to the iv's. EDIT: Also 0xc8 -0xd0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenmatt5 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 It appears my little script has become obsolete: Instacheck Hotspot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laytnm Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 It appears my little script has become obsolete: Instacheck Hotspot I wouldn't say so, especially if yours is open sourced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unown Lord Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I just noticed there's no information for bytes 0x72 and 0x73 on the wiki, it goes straight move 4 id at hatching to the iv's.EDIT: Also 0xc8 -0xd0 Bytes 0x24-0x27 aren't listed, either. It's been inferred that the Contest stats have been removed or moved, but is that necessarily the case? I don't see which bytes they could use other than 0x24-0x29 (or 0x25-0x2A), so I'm wondering why only bytes 0x28-0x2A are listed as unused/unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hozu Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 They haven't figured out Amie stats, so they're missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarfaceguns Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I wouldn't say so, especially if yours is open sourced. especially when i have seen quite a few people having trouble using that program myself included, despite been able to make a virtual router on my own and use kazo's .pkx check/dump program just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x66x66 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 What exactly can't people figure out in the wonder trade packets? I figured out the header checksum and got the UDP checksum, but those aren't the checksums people are talking about, are they? I modified a packet and added in the event shiny Entei, but my several attempts to inject it failed. The destination port of my 3ds changes every wonder trade which makes it hard to inject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzman Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 What exactly can't people figure out in the wonder trade packets? I figured out the header checksum and got the UDP checksum, but those aren't the checksums people are talking about, are they?I modified a packet and added in the event shiny Entei, but my several attempts to inject it failed. The destination port of my 3ds changes every wonder trade which makes it hard to inject. There is a block starting with ea d0 bytes having random 16-bytes. The overall conclusion was that it is some sort of checksum, but nobody was able to figure it out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSLAYER Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) On the checksum:This is the exact same pokemon being sent during 3 different wondertrades - 0000 00 00 19 00 6f 08 00 00 a4 d3 0d eb 00 00 00 00 ....o... ........0010 12 6c 85 09 80 04 db a7 00 88 01 2c 00 4c e6 76 .l...... ...,.L.v0020 a9 9a 1f 34 af 2c be 24 b6 4c e6 76 a9 9a 1f 90 ...4.,.$ .L.v....0030 1e 00 00 aa aa 03 00 00 00 08 00 45 00 03 cf 0f ........ ...E....0040 ed 00 00 40 11 cf 98 c0 a8 02 29 3c 29 98 9e e2 ...@.... ..)<)...0050 06 d0 2a 03 bb 05 69 ea d0 01 03 92 03 11 11 e2 ..*...i. ........0060 08 af 00 0c 00 32 16 fa 74 b1 82 6c eb 01 87 6d .....2.. t..l...m0070 14 a4 bb 41 16 02 01 00 53 5c 7e 03 02 00 00 00 ...A.... 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[/Code]So its definitely not a simple checksum of only the pokemon data so its either heavily seeded or something else entirely/E: In fact, the whole data section ONLY differs in that "checksum" [b][u]DISCLAIMER: Purely speculative; a suggestion from my pool of limited knowledge.[/u][/b]Not that I read into the data,But to my understanding of the situation so far (using the quoted piece above as an example).The conclusion is that the checksum for the trade using the same pkmn sent can differ.I feel that there's a possibility that the checksum is against[b] both[/b] sent and received packets.You should try trading 3 times with the same person, with said person trading the exact same pkmn with you on all 3 tries, and then see if the checksum still differs.If the checksum turns out to be the same,both parties can attempt to inject the opposite parties' pkmn in the same final trade,to see if that works ><If it does work, we have our new "sacrificial type" cloning technique..EDIT:[also, do trade the above said pokemon at least once with the partner, as the "last traded information" is stored in the pkmn,and the change in that information may change the overall checksum.In other words.1st trade is for test and "zeroing" the pkmn, (trade A for B)2nd, 4th, 6th trade is to receive the pkmn back (trade B for A)3rd, 5th, 7th is to record and compare packets (trade A for B)8th is to attempt to cross inject (trade B for A, but attempt to replicate injection as if trading A for B)] Edited November 22, 2013 by theSLAYER EDIT.. 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KarjamP Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 How can you Wondertrade with the same person if it's the Wondertrade servers who decide who you're trading with and not the players themselves? Wondertrading isn't the same as normal trading. For once, you don't get to choose who you're trading to, nor what Pokémon you're getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exabytez Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I apologize in advance if the question isn't allowed in this thread. So the addresses E0-E3 contain "Country ID", "Region ID", "3DS Region ID" and "OT Language". How are those "filled"? Is Country ID determined by the game itself (meaning every game has a stamp depending on where the game was produced) or is it determined by the country set in the 3DS? Also, does Region ID belong to the state or what is meant by this and what's the difference between Region ID and 3DS Region ID? Last but not least I would be interested which address is used for determining whether two Pokémon apply for international breeding but I guess this can't be told at the moment. I was curious because many people buy a second version and set the language to one they didn't choose in their first version in order to do international breeding, but of course noone knows if it works that easy. What I can say though is that Pokémon caught within a game with another language set show another language in the summary, so this is most likely determined by OT language, but in the end, this doesn't automatically have to do with international breeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSLAYER Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 How can you Wondertrade with the same person if it's the Wondertrade servers who decide who you're trading with and not the players themselves?Wondertrading isn't the same as normal trading. For once, you don't get to choose who you're trading to, nor what Pokémon you're getting. AFAIK, the program by Kazowar, and even Instacheck, can record pokemon in normal trading, as the packets are also received in a similar manner apparently. I was referring to normal trading, not wonder trading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarjamP Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) AFAIK, the program by Kazowar, and even Instacheck, can record pokemon in normal trading,as the packets are also received in a similar manner apparently. I was referring to normal trading, not wonder trading. You should've said so in the first place, instead of implying we're talking about Wondertrading.Also, those packets were extracted from before the time the progams you've mentioned were known. If it's exactly the same packets if it's done with normal trading, then we can't inject Pokémon using Wondertrading, as then, since these packets describes what's being traded, they aren't the only stuff transmitted between the servers and the 3DS (for example, the stuff could be the request for wondertrading, the servers choosing a person who's also doing Wondertrading, telling the 3DS what trainer it has chosen to trade your Pokémon, and then these packets, which describes the information pertaining to what's being traded.). Therefore, even if we found the checksum, we can't inject Pokémon through Wondertrading unless we know the entire Wondertrade protocol and how they work. Edited November 23, 2013 by KarjamP Fixing broken grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticokico Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Hey, i've been following the post since it started and i've been quetioning one thing: I see you guys are trying to decrypt and understand the protocols of the wonder trade. But did the GTS mechanics have changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codr Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 <excessively arrogant post> Apparently you don't seem to comprehend that the individual packet that contains the Pokemon data could be modified prior to being relayed to the 3DS. That's all it takes, it's no more complicated than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarjamP Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Apparently you don't seem to comprehend that the individual packet that contains the Pokemon data could be modified prior to being relayed to the 3DS. That's all it takes, it's no more complicated than that. Calling me arrogant is uncalled for here. Also, saying I can't "comprehend" it is being rude. Anyway, to answer your point: note the word "could". Meaning, there's a chance it can't. After all, it has to talk to Nintendo servers as well in order for what you said to work, and thus, if the 3DS checks with Nintendo servers, that could ruin the injection. With traditional trading (ie, not connected to the web), you may glitch out the trade sequence. Not only that, but I'd assume that intercepting the packets and poisoning them would pose more difficult when you trade locally instead of on the internet. I'd assume that the preferred method is to have the software that does the injection mimic Nintendo's servers for the purpose of sending hacked Pokémon over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSLAYER Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 *snip* Truthfully, but never at one in time point did I mention it to be wonder trade. It is mistake on my part to believe people will be able to infer is as normal trade based on my words (you yourself found it contradictory), especially when Kazowar's program and instacheck works with normal trades and wonder trades. Anyway I hope the method works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poryhack Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Hey, i've been following the post since it started and i've been quetioning one thing: I see you guys are trying to decrypt and understand the protocols of the wonder trade. But did the GTS mechanics have changed? Previously all communication with the GTS was unencrypted. In X and Y it is encrypted and thus not a viable means to inject pokemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarjamP Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Truthfully, but never at one in time point did I mention it to be wonder trade.It is mistake on my part to believe people will be able to infer is as normal trade based on my words (you yourself found it contradictory), especially when Kazowar's program and instacheck works with normal trades and wonder trades. Anyway I hope the method works That was a mistake on my part, BTW.But even so, but I'll still say it's risky to inject Pokémon through using trades without emulating a server (or, in the case of normal trades, the other player). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticokico Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Previously all communication with the GTS was unencrypted. In X and Y it is encrypted and thus not a viable means to inject pokemon. Oh! i see, thx =D i was thinking why you guys are trying to inject data via the wonder trade and not the GTS like you used to. now i understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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