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    Unless you blatantly ignore the Bible, yes there is. How about the part of Genesis which said that God created man? Not "God created apes which would later evolve into man," just "God created man." And despite never progressing beyond a theory, it is now being taught as fact in schools. Again, you're confusing morals and human laws. The Bible saying "no" is all the reason I need, the Bible being the inspired Word of God, after all. However, if you want more reasons, how about that gay relationships open the door for even worse perversions? That they aren't self-propagating, and thus by definition are self-detrimental? That they are breeding grounds for STDs? At conception. It should have the right to live, yes. Well, as Jiggy-Ninja said, if you're not prepared to accept the consequences of your actions, don't make the choice. The consequences here being that the mother is no longer making decisions about only her body. And here is where the debate turns to "BAW we cant convert teh christianz with our logik skillz that means they cant think for themselves". So I guess I'm done, too. To those who debated my points intelligently, thanks for your time and civility.
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    Alright. For example, some evolutionists might use the similarity of one species' physique to another species'. Instead of being evidence for evolution, it could simply mean that God re-uses his designs, much like an artist has a unique art style. Oh, but I'm afraid your "science" (and that's a term I apply lightly to evolutionary theory) does presuppose. First, and most importantly, it presupposes that God doesn't exist, a statement you simply cannot prove. It presupposes that all these unlikely events, these one-in-billions odds all happened in the one-in-billions conditions needed to sustain life. Darwin used the phrase "we may well suppose" countless times in Origins. Laws were formed in the absence of a statutory system of laws. Morals are not defined by man. Yes, and that killing would be immoral. But you see a larger "pile of cells" as human? Did I? I honestly don't remember mentioning carbon dating at all.:confused:
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    Any "evidence" I've seen used to support evolution can just as easily be used to support creation. Actually, proving any part of the Bible wrong would prove the rest of it wrong. Either the biblical authors were telling the complete truth 100% or they were insane/liars and could be trusted 0% (actually, several biblical authors died for their beliefs when they could have just recanted to spare themselves; this leaves only two possibilities: they were either accurate or insane). You aren't talking about morality. You're talking about following the basic survival instinct. Morality isn't necessarily the most convenient choice in such a community; what if a pregnant woman in said tribe were forced to abort her child so that would be one fewer mouth to feed? It might be more convenient or profitable for the tribe, but it certainly wouldn't be moral. Also, where is the law enforcement in this tribe? Human nature dictates that eventually someone or several someones will break the rules for whatever reason (be it selfish or otherwise). That's when the trouble arises. No one would have to tell them what to do, to tell them to stop breaking the rules. A mutually beneficial situation such as in your example only works as long as everyone agrees that they're getting their fair share. Again, given human nature, that isn't long. Not long at all. Lastly, I'm not entirely sure how this thing about carbon-dating came about; I don't think I've refuted it's accuracy...? For the record, I'm open to the concept known as "old-earth creationism," which basically means that the days of creation in Genesis may or may not have been actual twenty-four hour periods. [if the carbon-dating argument was directed at someone else, disregard this little tangent.]
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    Well, of course. Ethnicity just isn't a factor for most people anymore. Discriminating against religion is the new racism. I'm not sure what you're referring to here. Could you expound, if it's not too much trouble? Well, I would hardly have a reason to hold on to my morals if there's no gain to be had from following them. If you were a consistent atheist, that's exactly what it would mean. I thank God every day for such inconsistencies. Thank you for your civility in your answers. It seems to be rarer and rarer in these types of debates. :smile:
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    Whoo. Nice long thread we've got here, fellas. Now, at the risk of being labeled a religious fanatic on yet another message board: I'm a Christian. A reformed, five points of Calvinism, sovereignty of God Christian to be precise. As such, I believe he created the universe himself, ex nihilo. I believe that he put in every species certain genes that would allow them to develop into several different types, but I find the idea that through a series of accidents, one species can evolve into another species, quite ludicrous. The most common response I get from Darwinists is "what proof is there that your god exists?" My answer, for the record, would be "about as much proof as there is for Darwinism." That is, none. Christianity and Darwinism are both faiths, people. Their respective followers will both swear that their respective beliefs are the right ones. I'm no exception. The world has seen too many events in the history of the world that were first predicted in the Bible to doubt its accuracy (the fall of Rome, anyone?); too many observations about human nature that have been proven correct time and again (namely, the human tendency to deny God and put man in His place). There are also scientific principles in the Bible that some didn't accept until years later (roundness of the earth, anyone?) Furthermore (and I know this has been brought up before now): I truly believe that if Darwinism is right, nothing can be wrong. If we are all the result of an accident, there is no basis for law or morality. Seriously, guys, if I'm an accident, what right does anyone in power have to govern me? If I'm an accident, I might as well do whatever the heck I want and enjoy myself, no? I think I'll go rob some guy because I want that flat-screen TV of his, and he has no more right to it than I do because he's an accident, too. Right? Darwinism, if followed through consistently, leads to anarchy and chaos. And make no mistake, some Darwinists want anarchy; the whole religion of Darwinism was started to dodge God, after all.
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    KH series is awesome. I don't like Kingdom Tards, but people who say it's over-rated, in my experience, are missing the point of the series. Also, 358/2 Days is a real game to be out for the DS later this month, if I'm not mistaken.
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    Zelda is a great character but loses all potential to spam Din's Fire when you use her in Wi-Fi battles. Pikachu is... meh, anyone can find a way to deal with speed. It's strength and priority that are the real problems... No, the only character I consistently have trouble with anymore is Diddy Kong, even then only when I use Meta Knight or Kirby. Although I do know a god-like Yoshi player.
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    I had it easy; I got mine traded to me. (For a shiny Salamence, I believe.)
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    You're probably right; I was basing that on the games, though, not the systems themselves. If it's just a matter of functionality, I agree; PS3 wins, no contest.
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    Mewtwo in FireRed was a pain, what with his using Recover every other turn...
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    Finally, I see someone with some good taste. IE all the way. ... (Unless I'm on my Wii, then I'm using Opera.)
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    Giratina in Platinum, mostly because of the bad*** music that plays while you're fighting him.
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    I'd just like to point out that the new rules broke this thread beyond repair.
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    If $teve Job$ would stop overpricing his players, I might buy one. Until then, I'm sticking with my Zen Mosaic.
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    I think that only if and when Nintendo stops loading up its system with shovelware will it ever be a success in my eyes. And then on the opposite end of the spectrum, we have the PS3 and 360: "Hai guise were raetd "M" were hardcor!!!!!11!!!1" Disgusting.
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    What I don't like is that Lucario made it into a higher tier than Mewtwo.
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    If they made Mewtwo as powerful in Melee as he is in the games, no other character would stand a chance.
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    Dragonite - Surf, Fly, Defog, Waterfall. Bibarel - Rock Smash, Cut, Strength, Rock Climb.
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    5.
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    >:C I say Porygon-Z. I'm smart, but sometimes I act oddly.
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    3. IS A MAGIC NUMBER
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    5/10 Giratina is cool, but there are too many right angles, and the text is a little basic for my tastes.
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