theSLAYER Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 With Poké Transporter, you can easily transfer any of your Pokémon using a single Nintendo 3DS system. An update for the popular app that transfers your Pokémon from Generation 5 games and Virtual Console: Generation 1 games has gone live! Preliminary reports indicate that for VC Gen 1 transfers, the erroneous shiny calculation has been rectified, and there are changes to gender determination. We will continue to update this page, as the story develops. Shiny Determination Source:https://twitter.com/wwwwwwzx/status/905344972819275776/ It appears that shininess uses the original Gen 2 formulaGender Source:https://twitter.com/wwwwwwzx/status/905350763689402368 It also appears that gender is using original Gen 2 determination and as a result, @SnorlaxMonster reported that with gender now being based on IVs, it's now impossible to get female Shiny 7:1 m:f Pokémon from VC. which affects ALL of the Pokémon with that ratio that are in Gen 1: Starters, Fossils, Eevee line, Snorlax. Gen 2 support not yet addedhttps://twitter.com/wwwwwwzx/status/905370609877520384 https://twitter.com/wwwwwwzx/status/905355687537938432 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo12100 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Worst no Celebi, no changes in nature ivs. I repeat NO CELEBI !!!!!!! Now you can cry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSLAYER Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 Just now, jojo12100 said: Worst no Celebi, no changes in nature ivs. I repeat NO CELEBI !!!!!!! Now you can cry I don't expect Celebi to be transferable on launch anyway (LOL) Not until there's an event.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo12100 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Just now, theSLAYER said: I don't expect Celebi to be transferable on launch anyway (LOL) Not until there's an event.. So it will be the same shit as Mew in gen1. Maybe we'll have a good news if there's a crystal vc release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSLAYER Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, jojo12100 said: So it will be the same shit as Mew in gen1. Maybe we'll have a good news if there's a crystal vc release as much as I hated that limited event nonsense, I technically gained from it (since I had a trade ticket and my friend redeemed it for me) Though the European one was a bigger mess, since lucky draw -.- I prefer trade ticket > lucky draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacks Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) eh the id for mew was the release date of pokemon red and green in japan so maybe the id of celebi if theirs an event will be the jap release date of gs im guessing the ot will still be game freak and i don't think they are going to update transporter again just to allow celebi though so it may work on launch and you can use the coin case to change the id and ot. they have not added in gen 2 support so we don't know yet. Edited September 6, 2017 by hacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSLAYER Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 Adding on to that, XYORAS received a ゲーフリ Mew, with the TID 22796, and subsequently the VC Mew had the same OT and TID. However, I'll like to point out that the upcoming Celebi isn't "GF", but rather "Ilex", and even worse, it's TID has 6 figures. (Gen 2 can only have 5, so that alone may make coin case plan fail) At least we have 2 ways to tackle this now. Maybe use their old format and try 21119 as OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacks Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) 36 minutes ago, theSLAYER said: Adding on to that, XYORAS received a ゲーフリ Mew, with the TID 22796, and subsequently the VC Mew had the same OT and TID. However, I'll like to point out that the upcoming Celebi isn't "GF", but rather "Ilex", and even worse, it's TID has 6 figures. (Gen 2 can only have 5, so that alone may make coin case plan fail) At least we have 2 ways to tackle this now. Maybe use their old format and try 21119 as OT. they still could also have an event one in gs vc as well they had a mew event in xy and oras and there was a vc one to Edited September 6, 2017 by hacks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSLAYER Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, hacks said: they still could also have an event one in gs vc as well Yeah, the 21119 was referring perhaps an event they'll hold in VC GS >< I do hope so (and maybe they make it more accessible this time round) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacks Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) yeah they could make it so certain country get the vc one and every one else just gets the one in there gen 7 game. so uk and japan get one in vc games just like mew. 10 minutes ago, ajxpk said: Don't worry! Gen 2 VC support isn't even supported yet. The update is Gen 1 VC related. I'm glad they finally they fixed the Shiny issue! And finally Genders are determined as it's supposed to be. Also... I think it's good that Nature is still based on Experience and hope that it stays this way. Because this way it's easier to get the nature you want. Can't wait to see what's coming with the next update. It's way too early to give up on Celebii. And I agree with @theSLAYER, I don't want it to be a "lucky draw" event. Because this again would limit the amounts of Event Pokemon that are distributed and we will have to pray that one of us is a lucky winner. So... I hope in case it's a local distribution, we will see an Event similar to how Mew was distributed in Japan. Also I have to say... if there are Celebii Events coming we will have to preserve them anyway. It's likely that there will be hidden informations like trash bytes once again. they would not add gen 2 support this early because people can data mine it and find out the title id of vc gold and sliver then change there vc inject to the id and transfer early Edited September 6, 2017 by hacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSLAYER Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 25 minutes ago, hacks said: yeah they could make it so certain country get the vc one and every one else just gets the one in there gen 7 game. so uk and japan get one in vc games just like mew. they would not add gen 2 support this early because people can data mine it and find out the title id of vc gold and sliver then change there vc inject to the id and transfer early ^ that. I was hoping for that to happen. (well, not to transfer early, just wanted to know what the ID is gonna be) Also, if they don't split the VC 1 and VC 2 recognition properly, it may be possible to transfer up glitched pokemon (but the moves and typing and all probably need to be set correctly, tho) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacks Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, theSLAYER said: ^ that. I was hoping for that to happen. (well, not to transfer early, just wanted to know what the ID is gonna be) Also, if they don't split the VC 1 and VC 2 recognition properly, it may be possible to transfer up glitched pokemon (but the moves and typing and all probably need to be set correctly, tho) I meant title id if they included support for it early people could just make a gold sliver vc inject with the title id and transfer pokemon early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSLAYER Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, hacks said: I meant title id if they included support for it early people could just make a gold sliver vc inject with the title id and transfer pokemon early Yeah, I know what you meant, and I totally considered doing that. (LOL) But that's probably another way to get your 3DS totally banned (like playing SM before release date lol) Then I moved on and talked about how people may be able to get missingno into Gen 7 as Johto Pokemon, if they decided to use only 1 type of transfer subroutine for VC games >< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacks Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Sine crystal has mainly the same save file structure im wondering if it would let you transfer from a crystal vc inject if you changed the tid of it to the same one as gold or sliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSLAYER Posted September 6, 2017 Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, hacks said: Sine crystal has mainly the same save file structure im wondering if it would let you transfer from a crystal vc inject if you changed the tid of it to the same one as gold or sliver That's slightly incorrect: while there are significant data in Crystal's offsets that are different, the important thing is OT Name and Box 1 offset is the same. (Pokemon transporter display's OT Name before connecting to game, so that's important too) I say it'll depend on whether they decide to check other areas before opening the save to export. Another thing that I'll be more interesting in, is whether Pokemon Crystal's game ID will be accidentally released with VC GS. (which same as you mentioned, hackery-imports time) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby Genseki Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Oh, I was wondering how were they gonna handle this once G2 VC was released. Good thing I've already got my shiny female G1 Umbreon. But, how is Kaphotics gonna handle this in PKHeX? Are my shiny female Eeveelutions gonna be flagged as illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaphotics Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Assuming that the pk7 version will be gold or silver, we can ignore RGBY transfers for that check. I've already added a new commit to remove the old transporter handling, and added this shiny gender check It may have to be revised if RGBY<->GS happens, hope not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirzi Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, ajxpk said: Legality wise every Pokemon that has been transferred to Pokemon Bank until this update (9/6/2017?) uses the old algorithm...And everything after uses the new algorithm... I think both methods should be in PKHeX and which one is used should depend on the date. Given 3DS date can be easily changed, that wouldn't be a reliable way to determine which algorithm was used. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabresite Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 For legality, the only thing that matters is the limitation on female shiny 7:1. PKHex could mark it as "Fishy" I suppose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaphotics Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Certain traceback movesets are not possible without trading back and forth. The move parser flags trade back scenarios, so for rby transfers that flag can be checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabresite Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 19 minutes ago, Kaphotics said: Certain traceback movesets are not possible without trading back and forth. The move parser flags trade back scenarios, so for rby transfers that flag can be checked. I wasn't aware of the need to trade back and forth. Can you give me a quick example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ruby Genseki Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, Holla! said: Ugh, this .-. a thousand Dittos to this. It's tedious as hell to move Pokémon between boxes in gens 1 and 2, I dobut it would've been that hard for them to just allow to transfer from all boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSLAYER Posted September 7, 2017 Author Share Posted September 7, 2017 3 hours ago, kkusagami said: Will PKHEX has VC gen2 support on 22nd september later? If VC Save offsets are the same as the standard ones (which is likely), then technically it's already ready and waiting (to an extent).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacks Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Thank god they did change it cause i already hunted these two been playing the vc injects early. lugia only took 1000 soft resets ho oh 2000 and some thing soft resets. Edited September 11, 2017 by hacks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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