Which Starter Are You Going To Choose?

[Greencat]

Which Starter Are You Going To Choose?
Which starter from Pokemon HG/SS are you going to choose?
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I think I'm going to choose Cyndaquil this time. Before I choose Tododile, but I think I should give Cyndaquil a turn this time, but I do <3 Tododile. Mh. I'm going to have to debate on these two. :P

[wraith89]

Totodile... GSC starters were always bad news... and back then, Cyndaquil was indeed the best one. Now Totodile has new moves to play around with AND take advantage of his bigger attack stats! More love for the water starter guys! :D

Or maybe I'll pick Chikorita for a challenge... I find Meganium so cute :P

[pokemonfan]

I dont know, usually I can rule out one because they are ugly, in my opinion, but now I dont know. They are all so adorable and I'm biased to totodile but cyndaquil is extremely cute. Either cyndaquil or totodile. I'll probably end up picking totodile though because I love water types.

[God_OF_ZERO]

My first Gen 3 starter was torchic, Sinnoh was turtwig, so i'll go with totodile

[wraith89]

Why do I have the feeling NO ONE is going to pick Chikorita? :-/

[pokemonfan]

Maybe because it isn't as useful ?? I dont know. Chickorita is also another adorable starter. Turtwig and treeko really are not that cute so its up to bulbasaur and chickorita to hold the line in plant starter cuteness in my opinion. I do think that I might by a slim chance pick chikorita. However, its practically a done deal that I wont.

[NEXT LEVEL]

Why do I have the feeling NO ONE is going to pick Chikorita? :-/
i'll probably pick chikorita
i like bayleef and meganium the best, even though i'd like a feraligatr.
plus if i choose totodile it'd be weird to see the rival with a meganium.

[Phreen]

I'll choose totodile, I used him in a battle a while ago and did pretty good so I might consider taking him, and did Nintendo spell Feraligatr like that because they ran out of space for the name?

[wraith89]

Maybe because it isn't as useful ?? I dont know. Chickorita is also another adorable starter. Turtwig and treeko really are not that cute so its up to bulbasaur and chickorita to hold the line in plant starter cuteness in my opinion. I do think that I might by a slim chance pick chikorita. However, its practically a done deal that I wont.

I know she isn't as useful, but still... it's kinda mean to neglect her for that very reason. UU cleric sauropod FTW!

I think I'll pick her for the sake of challenge. BTW people, Feraligatr is the best GSC starter now... Typhlosion has officially been dethroned! But even then, Gyarados is better than Feraligatr :P

EDIT: @Phreen... how about Victreebel?

[pokemonfan]

But...cyndaquil is so cute! Feraligatr looks cool though. It looks like it is going to rip your face off of its skull in my opinion it just looks mean and fierce. Typhlosion I think is still cute just not as cute as cyndaquil. The chikorita evolutions all look the same I think. I really thought that the fire starters were always the best...oh well...(although I dont like fire)

[wraith89]

And you think Drifblim is ugly? Shame on you. -___-

Anyways, Feraligatr = UGLY!! But he's the best thanks to his new Dragon Dance ability and a physical moveset to boot! W00t! If you're playing in-game, he gets Agility to boost that speed of his (why his speed ties with a certain turtle is beyond me) and learns Flail, Crunch, Aqua Tail, and a plethora of good moves to be useful. Plus, Ice Punch TM (hopefully coming back :D) and you've got a Feraligatr that is more functional than his GSC counterpart! :P

Competitively, Typhlosion gets merit for being the fastest Eruption user :P

[empoleonmikel]

I really like water types, i'll go for Totodile :) and besides, i like pokemon that are really looking "fearsome" :)

[InuYouki]

I'll pick Cyndaquil on my SS version and Chickorita on my HG. The 2nd Gen was always my fave because it was the only one where I had a hard time picking the starter. Honestly, Gen 1 and Gen 2 are the ONLY generations where I like ALL the starters.

[HottSushiz]

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Ahh your expecting me to choose between these 2?:eek: ARRGHH they are all so awesome, i loved Tododile in the Anime, all hyperactive, and blasting out Watergun, and Cyndaquil is just plain cute! and their final evolutions are to die for, a massive Crocodile, and a gigantic Mouse with a blazing inferno on it's back.

Maybe i might get both games, and HeartGold for Cyndaquil, because Heart represents heat, and gold is a firey color, while Soul Silver sounds more like cold, or water like.

[Aqueel]

Yeah, I loved all three of these starters, and choosing is going to be hard. I doubt I'm going to be able to decide until I actually have the game and am forced to.

[Fallen]

Started off with Cyndaquil back then, so I'll start off with it first for the remakes. If I end up buying both versions I'll probably use Cyndaquil in HG and Chikorita in SS.

[Mewtwo Ex]

Totodile is a good choise i believe

[Gold88]

Totodile i guess ;)

[Zafur]

I voted for Cyndaquil. When I first got Crystal, I chose Totodile (I have a thing for reptilians). But I restarted it not even half way through the game to choose Cyndaquil because I was under the belief the fire starters were better.
I love how RAWR Feraligatr looks, but I hate Croconaw.>>;; I might get both (Or all three, if they also make Crystal, but I doubt it since they didn't remake Yellow. Sad, since I started with Crystal.) and choose Cyndaquil on one and Totodile on the other... I like Chikorita, but I just like the others more. My friend is really obsessed with it, though, so I know it's definitely not gonna be unused.

[xeomyr]

i'll choose cyndaquil
coz' typhlosion has the highest base stat of all three XD .. and coz' it's fire type pokemon XD

[derrick]

iam going with Cyndaquil be cause i have the other two from emerald and i like to have all of the starters so iam more of a collecter but it will be fun to go trough the johto region
my first time to do it two never ever got the chance to play gold and silver (and i know i was missing out) but ive herd so much about them i do know a lot two.
ive always had a thing for the color red two so i guess tht has some thing to do with me picking ruby over saphier and pearl over dimond and i always chose the fire starter
but iam geting soul silver any way. Is the thing about choseing a sertain starter and the game will be easyer true?

i also love platinum and emerald

[FLOOTENKERP]

Chikorita was my very first Pokémon I ever got. He's the reason I loved Johto so much (My Chikorita was a boy.) So I'm going to get Chikorita.

[wraith89]

Wow o_O
Why are the fire and water starters so popular and people always neglect the grass type? Yeah, I know Chikorita's the worst one, but still... more plant love?

Ok, I've decided. Chikorita for me to take a challenge. If I ever play competitively though, I'm picking Totodile :)

[Mewtwo Ex]

Wow o_O
Why are the fire and water starters so popular and people always neglect the grass type? Yeah, I know Chikorita's the worst one, but still... more plant love?

Ok, I've decided. Chikorita for me to take a challenge. If I ever play competitively though, I'm picking Totodile :)

I dis agree i love grass more than the other starter types. I love Treecko. the Best starter for me.

[wraith89]

I dis agree i love grass more than the other starter types. I love Treecko. the Best starter for me.

Treecko is actually good, Bulbasaur is really good, Turtwig is really good too... Chikorita really isn't. :P

[SkyFormeSheimi]

Easily Chikorita. I will be getting HG in Japanese, and both in English so I will be getting them all but I am going with Chikorita then Cyndaquil then Totodile. I hate Croknaw [sp].

[wraith89]

:(

Why does everyone hate Croconaw? I think he's cute :) Heck, am I the ONLY one who thinks he is? :P

And kudos to you... more Chikorita users! Does anyone know if her movepool got increased from that very limited movepool from GSC and RSE?

[Mewtwo Ex]

:(

Why does everyone hate Croconaw? I think he's cute :) Heck, am I the ONLY one who thinks he is? :P

And kudos to you... more Chikorita users! Does anyone know if her movepool got increased from that very limited movepool from GSC and RSE?

I think it did.
An watching this article make's me reconsider what Pokemon i'm going to choose.
Suggestions?

[wraith89]

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Chikorita - pick this plant if you're going the hard way. While she does get a plethora of supporting moves such as Reflect, Light Screen and Safeguard, her only offensive moves will be Tackle and Razor Leaf until she finally learns Body Slam at a really late level, which is BAD. The first two gyms are two types Chikorita has trouble again (lol @ a Gym Leader with a level 7 Pidgey and level 9 Pidgeotto), but if you really want a challenge and love plant Pokemon, pick Chikorita. Competitively, she works wonderfully as a Cleric and supporter, but other grass types do much better since they can actually cast status other than Toxic. She's really Bulbasaur without the Poison typing and the movepool and the Special Attack traded for Defense.

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Cyndaquil- everyone's best friend from the start. We all know he's the best, right? Awesome special attack, really quick, learning Thunderpunch as Typhlosion to take advantage of that wicked special attack (offer not valid in DPP). He'll do you good because he's quick and strong with that powerful Ember, and that he evolves into Quilava at level 14 (but evolves into Typhlosion at level 36)... but why use him when there are other better Fire types out there? He also has the same stats as Charmander... which doesn't show any form of uniqueness, but his biggest merit is that he is the fastest Eruption user in UU. Cyndaquil was the best starter back in GSC, but now he's dethroned by Totodile. But don't let that fool you. He'll do well in-game, has an advantage against Bugsy the second gym leader, and will help you win battles, but just handle with care. Fire types are rare and hard to come across, so if you don't want to wait to get a Fire type after Goldenrod... he's definitely your choice. Cyndaquil's considered the easy mode in this game.

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Totodile- ewww. A water type? Why would I want one? He is the worst of the GSC starters because of those misaligned stats, right? Hold on a minute! That was the case back in GSC and RSE (developers got lazy with the movepool in Gen III), but now that's not true! Totodile's back with a brand new rep! Thanks to the Physical/Special Split in DPP, he benefited a lot from it thanks to that large physical movepool of his. We got Waterfall, Crunch, Rock Slide, Ice Punch, Earthquake, Flail... it's gone a LOT better! He can raise his stats with Agility and Swords Dance if needed... and if you breed him, he can learn the awesome Dragon Dance! How's that for the energetic crocodile? Competitively, he's great, but the problem is, he gets overshadowed by Gyarados. Bummer. But still, being the worst GSC starter into the best does a lot for this guy, especially if you consider how he WAS back then and what he IS now. Totodile evolves into Croconaw at level 18 and evolves into Feraligatr at level 30.

[Mewtwo Ex]

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Chikorita - pick this plant if you're going the hard way. While she does get a plethora of supporting moves such as Reflect, Light Screen and Safeguard, her only offensive moves will be Tackle and Razor Leaf until she finally learns Body Slam at a really late level, which is BAD. The first two gyms are two types Chikorita has trouble again (lol @ a Gym Leader with a level 7 Pidgey and level 9 Pidgeotto), but if you really want a challenge and love plant Pokemon, pick Chikorita. Competitively, she works wonderfully as a Cleric and supporter, but other grass types do much better since they can actually cast status other than Toxic. She's really Bulbasaur without the Poison typing and the movepool and the Special Attack traded for Defense.

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Cyndaquil- everyone's best friend from the start. We all know he's the best, right? Awesome special attack, really quick, learning Thunderpunch as Typhlosion to take advantage of that wicked special attack (offer not valid in DPP). He'll do you good because he's quick and strong with that powerful Ember, and that he evolves into Quilava at level 14 (but evolves into Typhlosion at level 36)... but why use him when there are other better Fire types out there? He also has the same stats as Charmander... which doesn't show any form of uniqueness, but his biggest merit is that he is the fastest Eruption user in UU. Cyndaquil was the best starter back in GSC, but now he's dethroned by Totodile. But don't let that fool you. He'll do well in-game, has an advantage against Bugsy the second gym leader, and will help you win battles, but just handle with care. Fire types are rare and hard to come across, so if you don't want to wait to get a Fire type after Goldenrod... he's definitely your choice. Cyndaquil's considered the easy mode in this game.

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Totodile- ewww. A water type? Why would I want one? He is the worst of the GSC starters because of those misaligned stats, right? Hold on a minute! That was the case back in GSC and RSE (developers got lazy with the movepool in Gen III), but now that's not true! Totodile's back with a brand new rep! Thanks to the Physical/Special Split in DPP, he benefited a lot from it thanks to that large physical movepool of his. We got Waterfall, Crunch, Rock Slide, Ice Punch, Earthquake, Flail... it's gone a LOT better! He can raise his stats with Agility and Swords Dance if needed... and if you breed him, he can learn the awesome Dragon Dance! How's that for the energetic crocodile? Competitively, he's great, but the problem is, he gets overshadowed by Gyarados. Bummer. But still, being the worst GSC starter into the best does a lot for this guy, especially if you consider how he WAS back then and what he IS now. Totodile evolves into Croconaw at level 18 and evolves into Feraligatr at level 30.

Great work on the post above. Then it's settled i'm picking Chikorita im up for a challenge. It does not matter really. I am thinking of sending a LV. 2 Mewtwo like i will to platinum, and keep it when i feel like doing damage.(my last one has 444 Sp. attack)

[wraith89]

Thanks. Mewtwo is my favorite Pokemon ^_^
I tried making Mewtwo my starter in Ruby Sapphire... it didn't work out so well... because I had to fight that Poochyena in the beginning with Confusion... ouch.

So here's how the difficulty goes:
Beginners: choose Cyndaquil
Midbies: choose Totodile
Experts and Veterans: choose Chikorita (or if you're an obsessive Grass lover)

BTW it's MEGANIUM that learns Body Slam at level 44 :(
But when Bayleef evolves into Meganium, she learns Petal Dance immediately. Her offensive movepool before is Razor Leaf and Magical Leaf... and Tackle. Other than that, we have Poisonpowder, Reflect, Synthesis... they're not all that bad I guess.

[Mewtwo Ex]

Thanks. Mewtwo is my favorite Pokemon ^_^
I tried making Mewtwo my starter in Ruby Sapphire... it didn't work out so well... because I had to fight that Poochyena in the beginning with Confusion... ouch.

So here's how the difficulty goes:
Beginners: choose Cyndaquil
Midbies: choose Totodile
Experts and Veterans: choose Chikorita (or if you're an obsessive Grass lover)

BTW it's MEGANIUM that learns Body Slam at level 44 :(
But when Bayleef evolves into Meganium, she learns Petal Dance immediately. Her offensive movepool before is Razor Leaf and Magical Leaf... and Tackle. Other than that, we have Poisonpowder, Reflect, Synthesis... they're not all that bad I guess.


I just made the IV to max and used the encounter code.
and a few hundred Pokeball's or a handful of Masterball's
And There you have it.

[Aqueel]

Well, I'm definitely not going to choose Cyndaquil, considering it's ezmode. Plus all my friend's normally pick the fire starter, and I like to pick something different.

Chikorita gives the biggest in-game challenge, so that's a plus for me, considering I find the main storylines to be too easy.

But that post about Totodiles strengths really make me consider choosing him for multiplayer play.

[PokeDaemon]

I'm goin' to choose Cyndaquil, Lax? I like the idea of a tough lookin' guy bein' controlled by my rival, Lax? Plus he'll help me turn this place inside out with his quils of flames, Lax? Havin' a Totodile for a starter back in the day made me frustrated when takin' on the Sprout Tower.

Munch Bro Squintin': But boss! What 'bout the crew? You gun abandun your loyal boys, Squint?

Munch Bro Alert: Yeah!? Are you going to abandon the Lax Crew after the total of four hours we have been together, Hey?

The Snore: Oi! Aler... *snore* You! Stop soundin' lick a goody-three-shoes! The La... LAX! You gots to choose me, Snore?

Oh, put a sock in it you bunch a ingrateful Pocket Monsters! I'm goin' to choose Cyndaquil 'cause of his early evolvin' power and speed. He'll be useful to me sooner than the others, and I have a feelin' that he won't be takin' a spot for a Water-Type when I need it, Lax?

Munch Bro Squintin': Hey, you sure are smart boss, Squint?!

Munch Bro Alert: Yes, I do agree with that logic. Plus, that Cyndaquil may become a valuble member of this team, Hey!?

The Snore: *Snore*...*snore*... Huh? Yea... wha...ever, Snore?

[wraith89]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/wraith89/GIFS/MewtwoNods.gif
Yes, I made this terrible GIF, happy? But they can't wait until HG and SS comes out!

Anyways, let's get back on topic.

Let's assume the remake is very faithful in many ways... so if you didn't pick Chikorita, the alternative is Bellsprout. It gets worse here. Bellsprout is stuck with a measly 15 PP Vine Whip (it was 10 back then!!) until at level 7 she learns Growth... which does NOT benefit Vine Whip anymore... and level 11 where she learns... WRAP! At least Chikorita's better than that... but here's the catch. Bellsprout then learns Sleep Powder at level 13! And since Bellsprout's my favorite Grass Pokemon, I must have her! But if you're patient, she'll become a Weepinbell at level 21 and learn... *drumrolls* Acid at level 23. Okay... it's not that great, but still, better than nothing! Then we get the coveted Razor Leaf *dog drools* at level 39! Too much waiting here! But if you don't like Bellsprout, you can wait until Ilex Forest to get Oddish, who is more defensively oriented and a less screwed up movepool (but starts out with Absorb and Sweet Scent). But even then, Victreebel will do better competitively in the long run... but Vileplume/Bellossom is there for consideration. Pick your poison.

As for Water type alternatives, they might put those early Poliwags in the early routes at night time or so... but you'll be stuck with BUBBLE for a LONG time. BUT... there's that Hypnosis at level 8! Then comes Water Gun at level 11... this tadpole's here for consideration. If you're lucky, it comes with Water Absorb. There's Wooper after Violet City if you want a Water Absorbing electric-immune Water Pokemon. Either way, Water Pokemon are EVERYWHERE... but those are your early two.

As for Fire types... if the version exclusive rule stays the same, Gold gets Growlithe and Silver gets Vulpix... but that's much later in the game. Growlithe is an all-around amazing sweeper... while Vulpix plays more defensively. Personally I love the Firefox better, but most will prefer the tiger dog. Take your pick.

[Mewtwo Ex]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/wraith89/GIFS/MewtwoNods.gif
Yes, I made this terrible GIF, happy? But they can't wait until HG and SS comes out!

Anyways, let's get back on topic.

Let's assume the remake is very faithful in many ways... so if you didn't pick Chikorita, the alternative is Bellsprout. It gets worse here. Bellsprout is stuck with a measly 15 PP Vine Whip (it was 10 back then!!) until at level 7 she learns Growth... which does NOT benefit Vine Whip anymore... and level 11 where she learns... WRAP! At least Chikorita's better than that... but here's the catch. Bellsprout then learns Sleep Powder at level 13! And since Bellsprout's my favorite Grass Pokemon, I must have her! But if you're patient, she'll become a Weepinbell at level 21 and learn... *drumrolls* Acid at level 23. Okay... it's not that great, but still, better than nothing! Then we get the coveted Razor Leaf *dog drools* at level 39! Too much waiting here! But if you don't like Bellsprout, you can wait until Ilex Forest to get Oddish, who is more defensively oriented and a less screwed up movepool (but starts out with Absorb and Sweet Scent). But even then, Victreebel will do better competitively in the long run... but Vileplume/Bellossom is there for consideration. Pick your poison.

As for Water type alternatives, they might put those early Poliwags in the early routes at night time or so... but you'll be stuck with BUBBLE for a LONG time. BUT... there's that Hypnosis at level 8! Then comes Water Gun at level 11... this tadpole's here for consideration. If you're lucky, it comes with Water Absorb. There's Wooper after Violet City if you want a Water Absorbing electric-immune Water Pokemon. Either way, Water Pokemon are EVERYWHERE... but those are your early two.

As for Fire types... if the version exclusive rule stays the same, Gold gets Growlithe and Silver gets Vulpix... but that's much later in the game. Growlithe is an all-around amazing sweeper... while Vulpix plays more defensively. Personally I love the Firefox better, but most will prefer the tiger dog. Take your pick.

Water type is a Complete no-brainer magikarp

[qwerty75]

eberyone knows that cyndaquil is the best among the three.. I will choose him!

[wraith89]

eberyone knows that cyndaquil is the best among the three.. I will choose him!

Not anymore, he isn't, but he's still good. :)

[Aqueel]

I would always catch a Magikarp at the beginning of the game if I didn't choose the water starter.

[Poryhack]

GSC had some cool starters. Cyndaquil is probably my fav starter to date, so yeah.

[wraith89]

I would always catch a Magikarp at the beginning of the game if I didn't choose the water starter.

Good luck training that thing though. I bought one for 500 Pokes at RBY :)
But then again, Gyarados becomes a better Feraligatr, so it will all pay off if you got him and a Cyndaquil. *shhh, don't tell the Totodile players this!*

[4evil]

if we could do this glitch again, then i would get all LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm_gP-zV11k

i might go with cyndaquil again, like i did in crystal
hmm you can already access the kanto pokedex in g/s/c (national dex), i wonder once you start the game you can trade straight to d/p/p

or they might add something like what did they did in fr/lg and do that island quest to trade to honen

[damio]

Preferably all of them, but I will at least need Cyndaquil ;)

[Gliscor]

Since the pokemon can follow you,Cyndaquil.

[girox]

155Cyndaquil of course but totodile is cool... maybe I'll have 'em both158

[Lucypher]

The first time I played Silver I chose Chikorita because on red I chose Bulbasaur as my starter.

So Chikorita it is! Although after replaying it I chose Totodile an I really like totodile...

Hm...

[Aqueel]

Good luck training that thing though. I bought one for 500 Pokes at RBY :)[/s]

Oh, it was a pain, but I would normally have a Gyradoes by the second gym. (Yeah, I used to buy him in R/B) I'd just have him at the front of my party, and then switch over....kill the enemy Poke, switch back to Magikarp....switch back to another....

[wraith89]

Oh, it was a pain, but I would normally have a Gyradoes by the second gym. (Yeah, I used to buy him in R/B) I'd just have him at the front of my party, and then switch over....kill the enemy Poke, switch back to Magikarp....switch back to another....

Same for me! :eek:
I also had Nidoqueen and Butterfree and Wartortle and Pidgeotto as I exited Mt. Moon :)

In the original GSC, Old Rod could catch stuff besides Magikarp. You think this remake will do the same? And Cyndaquil's getting very popular :eek:

No love for the energetic crocodile or the spunky plant? :(

[Raukue]

I always have trouble choosing what starter. Then I stress over what pokemon to have to play through the game. But then how there are HMs to consider and I don't want to backtrack to the PC just to get out someone with an HM so I have to think on who I wanna keep who can also cover HM use.

[wraith89]

152
Chikorita - pick this plant if you're going the hard way. While she does get a plethora of supporting moves such as Reflect, Light Screen and Safeguard, her only offensive moves will be Tackle and Razor Leaf and Magical Leaf until she finally learns Body Slam at a really late level, which is BAD. The first two gyms are two types Chikorita has trouble again (lol @ a Gym Leader with a level 7 Pidgey and level 9 Pidgeotto), but if you really want a challenge and love plant Pokemon, pick Chikorita. Competitively, she works wonderfully as a Cleric and supporter, but other grass types do much better since they can actually cast status other than Toxic. She's really Bulbasaur without the Poison typing and the movepool and the Special Attack traded for Defense.

155
Cyndaquil- everyone's best friend from the start. We all know he's the best, right? Awesome special attack, really quick, learning Thunderpunch as Typhlosion to take advantage of that wicked special attack (offer not valid in DPP). He'll do you good because he's quick and strong with that powerful Ember, and that he evolves into Quilava at level 14 (but evolves into Typhlosion at level 36)... but why use him when there are other better Fire types out there? He also has the same stats as Charmander... which doesn't show any form of uniqueness, but his biggest merit is that he is the fastest Eruption user in UU. Cyndaquil was the best starter back in GSC, but now he's dethroned by Totodile. But don't let that fool you. He'll do well in-game, has an advantage against Bugsy the second gym leader, and will help you win battles, but just handle with care. Fire types are rare and hard to come across, so if you don't want to wait to get a Fire type after Goldenrod... he's definitely your choice. Cyndaquil's considered the easy mode in this game.

158
Totodile- ewww. A water type? Why would I want one? He is the worst of the GSC starters because of those misaligned stats, right? Hold on a minute! That was the case back in GSC and RSE (developers got lazy with the movepool in Gen III), but now that's not true! Totodile's back with a brand new rep! Thanks to the Physical/Special Split in DPP, he benefited a lot from it thanks to that large physical movepool of his. We got Waterfall, Crunch, Rock Slide, Ice Punch, Earthquake, Flail... it's gone a LOT better! He can raise his stats with Agility and Swords Dance if needed... and if you breed him, he can learn the awesome Dragon Dance! How's that for the energetic crocodile? Competitively, he's great, but the problem is, he gets overshadowed by Gyarados. Bummer. But still, being the worst GSC starter into the best does a lot for this guy, especially if you consider how he WAS back then and what he IS now. Totodile evolves into Croconaw at level 18 and evolves into Feraligatr at level 30.

Quoting an earlier post of mine for people who have trouble choosing which starter they want :P

[psyce]

Leaving the first gen aside(Simply because I'd choose all the first gen starters any day), the best Grass I like is Sceptile, best fire is Infernape(Empoleon is good but Infernape kicks @$$) and the best water would be Feraligatr!

[kip]

i checked in my silver version and i had Chikorita so Chikorita it is

[Endless Eden]

Way back then i had totodile in gold so its cydaquil this time.

[Draconic_Renegade]

Totodile is my number one choice but since I'm getting both I'll also have a Chikorita, so kawaii!=3

[Duplicated]

I'll just get all of them :D (progress through the story to the point where you can use trading system, trade it to Platinum, restart the game to get another one. Rinse and repeat)

Still, I personally like Cyndaquil most lol

[SkyFormeSheimi]

I've been playing Pokemon for what, 10 years now so I'm pretty sure I can be called a veteran. But as said before, I'm choosing the quote-on-quote "Spunky Plant" Chikorita. Chikorita is so cute and Bayleef is completely awesome. Then you get Meganium which is hands down the best final GRASS EVOLUTION out of all of the starters.

GRASS: Meganium > Sceptile > Torterra > Venasaur
FIRE: Typhlosion > Charizard > Blaziken > Infernape
WATER: Blastoise > Feraligatr > Empoleon > Swampert

[evandixon]

Chikorita's design looks best...

[Mewtwo Ex]

I've been playing Pokemon for what, 10 years now so I'm pretty sure I can be called a veteran. But as said before, I'm choosing the quote-on-quote "Spunky Plant" Chikorita. Chikorita is so cute and Bayleef is completely awesome. Then you get Meganium which is hands down the best final GRASS EVOLUTION out of all of the starters.

GRASS: Meganium > Sceptile > Torterra > Venasaur
FIRE: Typhlosion > Charizard > Blaziken > Infernape
WATER: Blastoise > Feraligatr > Empoleon > Swampert

Everyone has their opinion. I in fact like Sceptile, the first's Pokemon i ever owned's evolution.

[wraith89]

I've been playing Pokemon for what, 10 years now so I'm pretty sure I can be called a veteran. But as said before, I'm choosing the quote-on-quote "Spunky Plant" Chikorita. Chikorita is so cute and Bayleef is completely awesome. Then you get Meganium which is hands down the best final GRASS EVOLUTION out of all of the starters.

GRASS: Meganium > Sceptile > Torterra > Venasaur
FIRE: Typhlosion > Charizard > Blaziken > Infernape
WATER: Blastoise > Feraligatr > Empoleon > Swampert

Erm, actually it goes like this.

GRASS: Sceptile > Venusaur =? Torterra > Meganium
FIRE: Infernape > Blaziken > Charizard > Typhlosion
WATER: Swampert > Feraligatr > Empoleon =? Blastoise

This is speaking competitive wise, but Grass starters were hard to rate... but Meganium is indeed the worst one unfortunately :(

EDIT: Oh, it was about preferences? I can't judge you on that, that's all subjective! :D

[Mewtwo Ex]

Erm, actually it goes like this.

GRASS: Sceptile > Venusaur > Torterra > Meganium
FIRE: Infernape > Charizard > Blaziken > Typhlosion
WATER: Swampert > Feraligatr > Empoleon > Blastoise

This is speaking competitive wise, but Grass starters were hard to rate... but Meganium is indeed the worst one unfortunately :(

If you ask me Blastoise is before Empoleon. Id rather take Squirtle to begin with than Piplup the peppy penguin... And so i do.

[wraith89]

If you ask me Blastoise is before Empoleon. Id rather take Squirtle to begin with than Piplup the peppy penguin... And so i do.

It's not about preferences... it's about who's better competitively. I use Blastoise myself and he does well... but unfortunately Blastoise is outclassed by many other waters who does his job better... AND can double up as other roles...

[Mewtwo Ex]

It's not about preferences... it's about who's better competitively. I use Blastoise myself and he does well... but unfortunately Blastoise is outclassed by many other waters who does his job better... AND can double up as other roles...

Sadly i am well aware of that point. But this is my opinion only.

[wraith89]

Sadly i am well aware of that point. But this is my opinion only.

Yeah, I only realized now that that whole comparison thing was about preferences, so it is subjective. :P

So you think Chikorita can handle this game? I LOL at the fact trainers still use level 7-9 Pokemon even until the second gym Azalea town. :P

[Fallen]

Why do you LOL at that? I think they should find a way to ditch levels but still have Pokémon grow.

[Mewtwo Ex]

I dont know... I never played Gold/Silver/Crystal.

[Fallen]

You missed out, big time. Playing that game at 11-12 years old was a blast.

[wraith89]

Why do you LOL at that? I think they should find a way to ditch levels but still have Pokémon grow.

Heh... this game was too easy. After Goldenrod was a trainer with a... *gasp* a level 2 Voltorb! The underleveled Pokemon was a serious issue for me... it's as if this game needed a harder difficulty like you said. I don't know... the easiness and the brevity of this game turned me off a bit.

BUT... for some reason, GSC is my favorite series, I think. I don't know why... it is SO fun despite its shortcomings.

[Mewtwo Ex]

You missed out, big time. Playing that game at 11-12 years old was a blast.

Oh well too bad for me. I do envy people that have. But if Kanto is in the game i will have a blast even thou i started playing Pokemon video games from Ruby.

[ZMaster]

Why not all three? =3

I hope the game is less complicated, unlike FireRed and LeafGreen. In FR/LG, there was hack protection or something. They better not make something like that again...

[L Lawliet]

Cyndaquil just because i think quilava is so awesome.

[Bigman2491]

Cyndaquil. And that is only because I ALWAYS picked him in the GSC games. Use to be my favorite pokemon for a while too.

EDIT:

You missed out, big time. Playing that game at 11-12 years old was a blast.

Agreed. It was the last pokemon game people enjoyed around my neighborhood/school. After those 3 everyone ignored pokemon and bashed it just because they didn't like the anime or something.

[DanteKoriyu]

Cyndaquil. I ALWAYS pick the fire starter on my play cart, SS this time around. HG will be used to get Chikorita and Totodile for my dex though.

[Illithian]

I think Nintendo is extremely biased towards fire. Have you noticed that Typhlosion has the highest speed and Special Attack stats out of all three starters, and that those stats are the most useful for an ingame pokemon? Meganium has mediocre defensive stats and bad everything else, whilst Feraligatr has okay attack and def, while his other stats suffer. For ingame purposes, all of them will work.

I think with the physical split, Feraligatr will be the most powerful starter. With physical Waterfall and Ice Punch, along with Dragon Dance and Swords Dance, he will be undeniably powerful. Typhlosion has a large movepool but probably won't be as strong as Feraligatr.

Then again, Nintendo could work some magic with movesets and somehow turn Meganium into a monster, so we really don't know much at this point.

[KazoWAR]

Cyndaquil, it was my starter in Gold, it will be my starter in Heart Gold.

[wraith89]

I think Nintendo is extremely biased towards fire. Have you noticed that Typhlosion has the highest speed and Special Attack stats out of all three starters, and that those stats are the most useful for an ingame pokemon? Meganium has mediocre defensive stats and bad everything else, whilst Feraligatr has okay attack and def, while his other stats suffer. For ingame purposes, all of them will work.

I think with the physical split, Feraligatr will be the most powerful starter. With physical Waterfall and Ice Punch, along with Dragon Dance and Swords Dance, he will be undeniably powerful. Typhlosion has a large movepool but probably won't be as strong as Feraligatr.

Then again, Nintendo could work some magic with movesets and somehow turn Meganium into a monster, so we really don't know much at this point.

Illithian, you've read my mind :eek:

[FLOOTENKERP]

Chikorita would probably be best for the Red Gyarados capture. (If they decided to keep the Red Gyarados.) You could attack him and put him to sleep.

[lilmix74gd]

Cyndaquil

[CarthForleizen]

I'm getting Silver and Gold both.
I'll be playing Silver more, so for that my starter will the Cyndaquil.
Typhlosion has to be my favorite final evolution starter of all the regions. Doesn't mean it's the best of the three, but it's definetly my favorite.
For Gold, I'll be using Chikorita; I've been playing pokemon since I could first hold a Gameboy, and I could use the challenge of Chikorita/Bayleef/Meganium's relatively low base attack and defense stats. But Meganium is a total powerhouse if EV trained correctly and given the right moves. (Although, this could be said about just about any pokemon)

[wraith89]

I'm getting Silver and Gold both.
I'll be playing Silver more, so for that my starter will the Cyndaquil.
Typhlosion has to be my favorite final evolution starter of all the regions. Doesn't mean it's the best of the three, but it's definetly my favorite.
For Gold, I'll be using Chikorita; I've been playing pokemon since I could first hold a Gameboy, and I could use the challenge of Chikorita/Bayleef/Meganium's relatively low base attack and defense stats. But Meganium is a total powerhouse if EV trained correctly and given the right moves. (Although, this could be said about just about any pokemon)

Meganium has high defense stats... it's just the attacks that are low :)

[CeoOhmnis]

Cyndaquil. It'll be just like old times =3.

[Mystery100]

I wish we could choose Pikachu. He's my fave.

[Aarux]

Totodile. Just like in Crystal. Cool alligator thing.

[wraith89]

I think I've finally realized that I've been underestimating that geranium for a long time! She's seriously an awesome tank... she helped me wall Jolteon and even Vaporeon's Ice Beam... Meganium FTW! :D

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[Destati]

I really don't understand why people buy both games. You're just wasting money.

...Meganium's awesome in Mystery dungeon... Aromatherapy+Synthesis...

[wraith89]

I really don't understand why people buy both games. You're just wasting money.

...Meganium's awesome in Mystery dungeon... Aromatherapy+Synthesis...

Er... wrong topic? :P
And Mystery Dungeon has some pretty weak Pokemon turn awesome like Mantine :)

[Mewtwo Ex]

I for one like having both game's for free. So it does not hurt me having two.

[InuYouki]

I really don't understand why people buy both games. You're just wasting money.

...Meganium's awesome in Mystery dungeon... Aromatherapy+Synthesis...

It isn't wasting money if it is what you want.... >.> I hate when people try to tell me how to spend my money.

Me, I use one game for all my training main playing etc. I use my second copy for getting the pokemon I can't in the other version mostly and replay value. I never restart my first game.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Meganium is awesome and Chikorita is cute. CHIKORITA FTW And HG has minorly different Pokémon than SS, so that's how you complete the Johto dex.

[wraith89]

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Chikorita - pick this plant if you're going the hard way. While she does get a plethora of supporting moves such as Reflect, Light Screen and Safeguard, her only offensive moves will be Tackle and Razor Leaf until she finally learns Body Slam at a really late level, which is BAD. The first two gyms are two types Chikorita has trouble again (lol @ a Gym Leader with a level 7 Pidgey and level 9 Pidgeotto), but if you really want a challenge and love plant Pokemon, pick Chikorita. Competitively, she works wonderfully as a Cleric and supporter, but other grass types do much better since they can actually cast status other than Toxic. She's really Bulbasaur without the Poison typing and the movepool and the Special Attack traded for Defense.

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Cyndaquil- everyone's best friend from the start. We all know he's the best, right? Awesome special attack, really quick, learning Thunderpunch as Typhlosion to take advantage of that wicked special attack (offer not valid in DPP). He'll do you good because he's quick and strong with that powerful Ember, and that he evolves into Quilava at level 14 (but evolves into Typhlosion at level 36)... but why use him when there are other better Fire types out there? He also has the same stats as Charmander... which doesn't show any form of uniqueness, but his biggest merit is that he is the fastest Eruption user in UU. Cyndaquil was the best starter back in GSC, but now he's dethroned by Totodile. But don't let that fool you. He'll do well in-game, has an advantage against Bugsy the second gym leader, and will help you win battles, but just handle with care. Fire types are rare and hard to come across, so if you don't want to wait to get a Fire type after Goldenrod... he's definitely your choice. Cyndaquil's considered the easy mode in this game.

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Totodile- ewww. A water type? Why would I want one? He is the worst of the GSC starters because of those misaligned stats, right? Hold on a minute! That was the case back in GSC and RSE (developers got lazy with the movepool in Gen III), but now that's not true! Totodile's back with a brand new rep! Thanks to the Physical/Special Split in DPP, he benefited a lot from it thanks to that large physical movepool of his. We got Waterfall, Crunch, Rock Slide, Ice Punch, Earthquake, Flail... it's gone a LOT better! He can raise his stats with Agility and Swords Dance if needed... and if you breed him, he can learn the awesome Dragon Dance! How's that for the energetic crocodile? Competitively, he's great, but the problem is, he gets overshadowed by Gyarados. Bummer. But still, being the worst GSC starter into the best does a lot for this guy, especially if you consider how he WAS back then and what he IS now. Totodile evolves into Croconaw at level 18 and evolves into Feraligatr at level 30.

Quoting again for people who can't choose their starters.

Anyways, more people need to pick Chikorita! Typhlosion is for the rage nowadays!

[FLOOTENKERP]

Whats wrong with Chikorita guys? Come on, its a cool Pokémon.

[wraith89]

Whats wrong with Chikorita guys? Come on, its a cool Pokémon.

It's the fact she cannot learn many attacking moves, which is useful in-game. Her support moves are better off in the UU tier in the competitive metagame, but if you realize that in-game she has Tackle, Razor Leaf, and Magical Leaf... and then you see she doesn't learn her next move Body Slam until she's a level 44 Meganium! But who knows... they might change the move set when this game's released.

Unfortunately, she is the worst of the three.

[Aarux]

Whats wrong with Chikorita guys? Come on, its a cool Pokémon.

Some people pick the cool-looking Pokemon. I don't care much for it, but I definitely like Cynda/Toto's looks better.

Designs are as important as ever, eh?

[FLOOTENKERP]

Sigh, true that.

[pikapro]

wow... i cant beleive the game is coming out..
i've always dreamed of it, and now its come tru!
btw, i would pick cyndaquil.
i just LOVE its final stage of evolution.

[wraith89]

And here comes more Cyndaquil users... oh boy...

Not that I'm saying anything's wrong with it...

[pikapro]

well, actually, chikorita is awesome too.
i would pick it because i didn't like any other 2nd generation grass-type pokemon in gold or silver.
sunkern, sunflora = retard
bellossom = not for a guy
hoppip, skiploom, and jumpluff = sux

[wraith89]

I know. The rarity of Fire type drives you to pick it.
I always catch a Bellsprout and train it (even if it is hard to train)... and Bellossom's an awesome Pokemon. Sunflora's slow, but she's pretty strong, don't underestimate it.

Jumpluff sucks? Are you sure? Take a look at my Jumpluff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJgSLUaJ87U

[pikapro]

hey dont substitute prevent you from flinching when you use focus punch?

[wraith89]

Erm... yes, it does. Substitute helps with a lot of stuff and is a widely used technique in competitive battles. It also prevents you from status and takes damage for you when the next hit could have been fatal. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it doesn't do its job. It's all dependent on how you use it.

The technique you've seen is called Subpunching... it means Substitute + Focus Punch.

Let's get back in topic... people's chosen starters?

[pikapro]

btw, beastly team against steven

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oh yeh... back to the topic..
lol
im gunna have to get all 3.

[codemonkey85]

I think I'm going to choose Cyndaquil this time. Before I choose Tododile, but I think I should give Cyndaquil a turn this time, but I do <3 Tododile. Mh. I'm going to have to debate on these two. :P

I'll save you some trouble now; I'm getting Cyndaquil. Wanna trade eggs? You know where to find me.

Also, Cyndaquil is the coolest starter basic form, and a contender for the coolest overall starter, ever. It's just too bad that this time ThunderPunch is not a viable move for Typhlosion.

[Mewtwo Ex]

If it make's anyone happy fine i will choose Chikorita.

[Dimi]

Cyndaquil was always the best starter in GSC with access to Thunderpunch to own the water types. But Totodile and his evos finally got a Physical STAB water attack and some other useful moves like Physical Ice Punch, Superpower, and Dragon Dance.

[rustridden]

I'm going with Chikorita for two main reasons:

1) Chiko was my starter back in the old days (Gold ftw! xD)

2) Chiko seems to be the least popular choice and the underdog of the three

Totodile's still looking pretty cool though.. I may have to dual starter it! xD

[Greencat]

I'll save you some trouble now; I'm getting Cyndaquil. Wanna trade eggs? You know where to find me.

Also, Cyndaquil is the coolest starter basic form, and a contender for the coolest overall starter, ever. It's just too bad that this time ThunderPunch is not a viable move for Typhlosion.

Yeah, sure. I want to try and play this game with no AR Codes. :)

[Mewtwo Ex]

I'm counting counting on Chikorita to give me a hard time. I hope it will.

[codemonkey85]

Greencat, bear in mind that I'm counting on Ditto still being readily available on the routes by Goldenrod City like in the originals. Unless I decide to soft-reset for a female Cyndaquil.

On a related note, when the games are released we should totally make a starter-swapping topic for just this situation.

[ZMaster]

I hope they balance and power boost the starters =/

[wraith89]

I hope they balance and power boost the starters =/

Not going to happen >_<
They gave Typhlosion GYRO BALL (how much more useless of an attack are they going to give?)... and since it's Gamefreak, they'll do even stupider things :(

It's Meganium that I'm especially worried about... she'll be REALLY hard to use in-game.

[Mewtwo Ex]

Great i'm definitely choosing her. I can't wait for this game. I am counting on gemefreak not to change the game too much.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Not going to happen >_<
They gave Typhlosion GYRO BALL (how much more useless of an attack are they going to give?)... and since it's Gamefreak, they'll do even stupider things :(

It's Meganium that I'm especially worried about... she'll be REALLY hard to use in-game.
Meganium will be fine. And since Meganium can be both boy or girl, its best not to specify a gender. Just saying.


Great i'm definitely choosing her. I can't wait for this game. I am counting on gemefreak not to change the game too much.
Me too. But I want it to be at least as little different. I want it to be much more interesting.

[Pichu]

I'll be picking Cyndaquil.

[eighty4]

I'm going with Cyndaquil or Totodile. I'm not going to act like I even like Chikorita. That poke pisses me the **** ***.

[Aarux]

O_o Wow. What'd the poor plant-thing ever do to you?

[wraith89]

Meganium will be fine. And since Meganium can be both boy or girl, its best not to specify a gender. Just saying.

It's the way I talk. I assign gender to everything with a gender... even legendaries... except for those machine-like stuff.

And eighty4... I wish I could go on Shoddy right now and own you with my Meganium. -__-

[FLOOTENKERP]

Okay, I'm just saying, I like my Chikorita to be a boy, so when someone specifies it as one gender I just have the need to correct them. Sorry.

[Greencat]

So you're going to get a Male Chika because you like it when people say it's a girl and that gives you an oppurtunity to correct them? Pssh. >_>

[FLOOTENKERP]

No no, I just don't like specifying of a gender when it has two genders.

[wraith89]

No no, I just don't like specifying of a gender when it has two genders.

It's just my way of talking... if you don't like it, then pretend every "she" I say becomes a "he". And even then, Chikorita looks more feminine than masculine (although 87.5% of them are male like all starters -__-)

You haven't noticed me calling Articuno "she" and Charizard "he" and all that? I do that often... and you see everyone call their starters a "he" but you don't seem to care -__-

[FLOOTENKERP]

No no, it's fine Wraith, call it whatever you want. I just thought you thought it was always specified as a girl.

[wraith89]

:P

I know gender distributions... but really, I can't imagine a male Gardevoir or a female Machamp (although they BOTH exist), so I call them "she" and "he", respectively :)

I guess it's just my preferences.

I'm gonna try this for a challenge: GYRO BALL TYPHLOSION RUN :P

... I'm doomed, aren't I?

[FLOOTENKERP]

That's fine. But what I'm totally fine with is calling a Mr. Mime a he. THERE ARE GIRL MR. MIMES WTF!

[wraith89]

That pedo-mime? o_O
Yeah, Sabrina had a female Mr. Mime... I nickname my female ones Ms. Mime >_<

What's harder to use in this game... Meganium only run, Physical Typhlosion run, or Special Feraligatr run? :-/

[A Hacked Soul]

Gator face or Cyndaquil

[wingman32x]

I'm definately going with chicorita. everybody seems to wet their pants over cyndiquil and toadodile. Where's the love for chickorita?

[A Hacked Soul]

I'm definately going with chicorita. everybody seems to wet their pants over cyndiquil and toadodile. Where's the love for chickorita?

Not much after the show.

[SwitzaHouse]

Totodile is my favorite, but I want everyone to have the Pokemon they are portrayed with (example, Gold having a Typhlosion and Silver with Feraligatr). Totodile is way above half the starters, no matter what generation they are from.

[wraith89]

It really depends on how you use the starters. Feraligatr in competitive battles has the potential to shred a whole team if used properly (via Dragon Dance set). Back then, though, Feraligatr was the worst Johto starter due to his bad stat distribution.

I'll give you that, Gator is definitely the best Johto starter now. It used to be Typhlosion, but some of his useful moves have become physical, and physical isn't exactly Typhlosion's forte. And I'm STILL angry at Gamefreak for giving Typhlosion GYRO BALL... stop giving these Pokes useless moves! (BTW Gyro Ball is useful for PHYSICAL SLOW Pokemon... Typhlosion's EXACTLY the opposite of that) :)

[FLOOTENKERP]

Wow... You seem to be a pro at competitive battling.

[wraith89]

I'm really not a pro. The best here are probably Enkidu, randomspot555, Silent Storm, and Greencat.

I suggest you continue the Starter conversation if you want to post a "meaningful" post though :)

[codemonkey85]

Gator is definitely the best Johto starter now. It used to be Typhlosion, but some of his useful moves have become physical, and physical isn't exactly Typhlosion's forte.

I don't disagree on any point in particular, but for in-game stuff, the Cyndaquil family still has the edge over more of the Gym Leaders than the other starters, due to Type advantages.

[wraith89]

I don't disagree on any point in particular, but for in-game stuff, the Cyndaquil family still has the edge over more of the Gym Leaders than the other starters, due to Type advantages.

That's true. I was talking more about the competitive battling.

For in-game, Cyndaquil has the advantage of hitting Bugsy's Pokemon for super effective and for learning more offensive attacks. Plus his stats are more geared for in-game domination: great special attack and speed. I'll agree with you that Cyndaquil is best for in-game.

Totodile has neither real advantages nor disadvantages, but he's still a fine choice for in-game.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Whats so wrong with Chikorita? He got me through in Gold, why is it so useless now?

[wraith89]

Her stat distribution is geared towards defense. Also, her movepool is filled with support moves that would work great in competitive battling (especially UU), but in-game, she's hard to use with only Tackle and Razor Leaf and Magical Leaf as her only attacks. Also, she isn't learning Body Slam until she becomes a level 44 Meganium, forcing you to use Tackle (unless you taught her an HM, but that's a BAD idea). Also, notice how most in-game trainers LOVE using Zubats and other stuff that are resistant to Grass. If they resist Grass, you're basically stuck with Tackle for damage. Poisonpowder isn't helpful at all because most trainers you fight use Poison Pokemon, which are immune to it.

Bottom line: Chikorita is meant for experts. But I'll be picking her for a great challenge.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Sad. I love Chikorita, why must they be so weak?

[wraith89]

Don't ask me, ask Gamefreak and their monkeys. Anyways, before we go off-topic TOO much, we'll leave it so that other people can answer this.

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Chikorita - pick this plant if you're going the hard way. While she does get a plethora of supporting moves such as Reflect, Light Screen and Safeguard, her only offensive moves will be Tackle and Razor Leaf until she finally learns Body Slam at a really late level, which is BAD. The first two gyms are two types Chikorita has trouble again (lol @ a Gym Leader with a level 7 Pidgey and level 9 Pidgeotto), but if you really want a challenge and love plant Pokemon, pick Chikorita. Competitively, she works wonderfully as a Cleric and supporter, but other grass types do much better since they can actually cast status other than Toxic. She's really Bulbasaur without the Poison typing and the movepool and the Special Attack traded for Defense.

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Cyndaquil- everyone's best friend from the start. We all know he's the best, right? Awesome special attack, really quick, learning Thunderpunch as Typhlosion to take advantage of that wicked special attack (offer not valid in DPP). He'll do you good because he's quick and strong with that powerful Ember, and that he evolves into Quilava at level 14 (but evolves into Typhlosion at level 36)... but why use him when there are other better Fire types out there? He also has the same stats as Charmander... which doesn't show any form of uniqueness, but his biggest merit is that he is the fastest Eruption user in UU. Cyndaquil was the best starter back in GSC, but now he's dethroned by Totodile. But don't let that fool you. He'll do well in-game, has an advantage against Bugsy the second gym leader, and will help you win battles, but just handle with care. Fire types are rare and hard to come across, so if you don't want to wait to get a Fire type after Goldenrod... he's definitely your choice. Cyndaquil's considered the easy mode in this game.

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Totodile- ewww. A water type? Why would I want one? He is the worst of the GSC starters because of those misaligned stats, right? Hold on a minute! That was the case back in GSC and RSE (developers got lazy with the movepool in Gen III), but now that's not true! Totodile's back with a brand new rep! Thanks to the Physical/Special Split in DPP, he benefited a lot from it thanks to that large physical movepool of his. We got Waterfall, Crunch, Rock Slide, Ice Punch, Earthquake, Flail... it's gone a LOT better! He can raise his stats with Agility and Swords Dance if needed... and if you breed him, he can learn the awesome Dragon Dance! How's that for the energetic crocodile? Competitively, he's great, but the problem is, he gets overshadowed by Gyarados. Bummer. But still, being the worst GSC starter into the best does a lot for this guy, especially if you consider how he WAS back then and what he IS now. Totodile evolves into Croconaw at level 18 and evolves into Feraligatr at level 30.

Bringing back the stuff I wrote before for people who can't decide.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Hmmm... Chika!

Wraith89 EDIT: Please refrain from hijacking topics by putting useless posts like these. Try to contribute to the discussion instead ;)

[Umbreon]

I'm going with Chickorita. It isn't the best I guess but I usally always go with the grass types.

[wraith89]

Yay! More Chikorita choosers!

Chikorita's actually the worst one and you'll have a hard time if you pick her, but she's good for a challenge. If you want it easy, go for Cyndaquil, but good choice :)

[Mewtwo Ex]

Excellent! I can't wait for a challenge.

I will brainwash Elm to give me a cloned one that i designed... I'm considering the clone spot's locations.

[Klaatu]

I am not able to choose between 3 Pokemon q.q
I like all of them Q_Q
K....
Lets pretend I will not trade all 3 to one save file before really playing.

Back in the old times I used to choose Cyndaquil <3. Reasons being quite obvious, it was quite more of a sweeper than the other 2. And fast hard hitting Pokemon are the fastest at going through the game. It's movepool wasn't colorful, but neither where those of the other 2 starters.

I can exclude Totodile (but it's so awesome q.q), because there are always at least 3 water HMs and I wouldn't like screwing my starters moveset with HMs and I'm alergic to having 2 Pokemon of the same type with me XD.

So it would be Chikorita <3

[Gallade]

wheeww.. difficult choice because these were the best starters of all generations.. But I think I will go for cyndaquil, in my first game:D. Because that's what I did on my original silver game and because typhlosion is totaly awesome. I think that when the game comes out I will trade totodile and chycorita also to my game.. There are enough people who will also buy the game here..

G.

[That Pokemon Guy]

I'll probably do what I always did in G/S and clone the pokemon, trade to the other, and have all three.

[FLOOTENKERP]

I think I might do that as well, but start it off with Chikorita.

[Cyndaquil1995]

Cyndaquil All The Way

[FLOOTENKERP]

Like I haven't already seen that choice. What makes Cyndaquil so good? Totodile is better isn't it?

[wraith89]

Like I haven't already seen that choice. What makes Cyndaquil so good? Totodile is better isn't it?

Cyndaquil is better for in-game. Your tone sounds a little rude Floot :(
And people love Cyndaquil! I'm not picking him though (you know why).
And yes, Totodile is better for competitive battles... MUCH better.

Welcome Cyndaquil. You're a new member? Why don't you introduce yourself in the introduction boards? :)

[FLOOTENKERP]

It's just a repetitive choice. It gets obvious sometimes. I hate obvious.

[codemonkey85]

It gets obvious sometimes. I hate obvious.

I find it funny that your avatar is a mishmash of Pikachu and Mewtwo, two Pokémon who are / were basically representative of the whole series. ;)

But to be honest, can you blame people for liking Cyndaquil? It's definitely the cutest of the three.

[wraith89]

I find Chikorita to be the cutest :-/
But Cyndaquil and Totodile are adorable too! :p

[shadowdude]

i might go with chikortia or totodile i like a challenge!!!!!

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im gonna go with chikortia or totodile...... i like a challenge!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wraith89]

Chikorita is the BIG challenge. Totodile isn't much of a challenge though. He's good in-game and in competitive battles.

You're new here? Why don't you post in the intro forums? :)

[FLOOTENKERP]

I might get Chikorita on my Gold and Cyndaquil on my Silver. I can't wait for its release!

[wraith89]

I might get Chikorita on my Gold and Cyndaquil on my Silver. I can't wait for its release!

Ooh. You're getting both? o_O

[FLOOTENKERP]

Sure, why not?

[bear831]

I will go with Cyndaquil because I always chose the fire type starter. I don't know why but I like fire pokemon the most.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Not all fire types are good. Totodile is now going to be a better choice in competitive battles due to the new strategies he has. I might get him over Cyndaquil in Soul Silver. Chikorita is a definite yes in Heart Gold though. Now Cyndaquil is only good with physical attacks when he so clearly would be perfect for special.

[wraith89]

Typhlosion is a great Scarf Eruption user :-/

[Aarux]

I've confirmed that I'll get Totodile on SS and Cyndaquil on HG. Huzzah for the alligator and... uh, fire porcupine-thing.

[GGfan]

Cyndaquil, because it is the best from the three competitively.Choice scarf moveset makes a good lead, and the poke looks cool.

[wraith89]

Cyndaquil, because it is the best from the three competitively.Choice scarf moveset makes a good lead, and the poke looks cool.

Totodile is the best competitively now though.

[FLOOTENKERP]

That's what I'm saying. Totodile destroys Cyndaquil and Chikorita, but I like Chikorita the most. Mine in Gold was so awesome. He got me through all the battles and was loyal. So I think I've decided on Chikorita on HG and Totodile on SS.

[Greencat]

Yes, Feraligatr is awesome in UU! Dragon Dance, Ice Punch, Earthquake and Waterfall. It can also use Crunch and a few other physical moves. Typhlosion was always a problem with me in DPP. He just doesn't have a great move pool for his highest stat, SpAtk. =/

[FLOOTENKERP]

Meganium is a good defender. It could make a good part of a team. I'm pretty sure Meganium can beat Feraligatr, can it? I'm kinda confused because of these mixed things I've been hearing about Meganium being able to beat both the other starter evolutions.

[bear831]

I didn't chose him because of his move pool I chose him because I liked him more.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Looks can be deceiving.

[bear831]

True but it and Feralligator defiantly look the best compared to Meganium.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Why do looks matter? Mew looks like a small cute little flying mouse, and its powerful! Like I said, looks can be deceiving.

[bear831]

I am agreeing with you they don't matter in battles but I chose it for the looks and it makes the game harder which is nice.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Good, because if you choose your team based off of looks, you might end up losing. But I must admit, Feraligatr looks awesome and is pretty strong.

[bear831]

That is true but making the game harder all so lets it last longer.

[FLOOTENKERP]

That's why I'm choosing Chikorita. I hate to admit it, but it is the weakest of the three, making the game more of a challenge.

[bear831]

So then its settled the weak starters make the game more fun in the long run just more frustrating in the short run.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Of course. That is why I'm getting Chikorita, and I know a lot of other people doing the same. Easy is boring. I want a challenge.

[bear831]

Sure but I went in the middle because I like Cyndaquil a lot.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Cool. I just don't get why Game Freak would make Chikorita so weak though.

[bear831]

To annoy us into arguing over how useless it is?

[FLOOTENKERP]

I doubt that. They want good feedback on their creations, do you think they want to lose fans?

[bear831]

Maybe they had a lapse in judgment and also I was kidding about the whole arguing thing.

[FLOOTENKERP]

I know. But they don't intentionally want to make a starter Pokémon weak. That would just be plain stupid.

[bear831]

Yah that would be but they can make there share of mistakes in the design.

[FLOOTENKERP]

You would expect them to fix it. Anyways, Totodile is the strongest of the three, with Cyndaquil in second and Chikorita in last. I've decided to choose the second strongest for Soul Silver so it could be a little less of a challenge then Chikorita in Heart Gold.

[bear831]

But that would change what has been around for 3 game generations and it might throw people also they can't because of the way the other games are programmed for the weak stats.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Hopefully this is fixed in the next supposed generation.

[bear831]

Hope it will be but it means that this gen. won't be compatible with the next one.

[FLOOTENKERP]

You don't know that. Who expected GBA to be compatible with DS? Pal-Park for the win.

[bear831]

Hopefully the next gen will let you get your game over to the next gen consuls. but it is nice to get to choose Johto starters again.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Well anyways, if there is a cloning glitch, I will end up getting all 3 for sure.

[bear831]

Or you could start over a lot like my brother and I do if you are getting both.

[Tiger]

I'll get Chikorita on HG and Cyndaquil for SS. Never liked Totodile for some reason. D:

[FLOOTENKERP]

Totodile is actually the strongest of all three. Better for strategic battling.

[bear831]

That's strange everyone I talk to about the games likes Tododile even a little congratulations on being the minority. That's a good thing in my opinion.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Why is Totodile a minority?

[bear831]

Disliking it is a minority.

[FLOOTENKERP]

It's really not disliked, just people that you know might be the only ones that think so.

[bear831]

I am saying my friends like it but he dislikes it so it is a minority to dislike it in most respects.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Okay. But it is no minority, trust me.

[bear831]

Okay that was from my experience alone and I don't disbelieve you that I am wrong in a broader sense.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Okay.

[Count Zap]

Cyndaquil<Quilava<Typhlosion
Yes I'll pick Cyndaquil, and I'll nickname him Volcano :P

[FLOOTENKERP]

Wow. 60 Cyndaquil's chosen. I guess no one is seeing the benefit of Totodile.

[Aarux]

I picked Totodile. :/

I'm still sticking with Toto. He's gotten better lately with the attack-type shift. I got mauled by a Feraligatr on PBR, too.
And he looks cool.

[FLOOTENKERP]

I think Totodile is the best of the three, but my favorite is Chikorita. It's pretty strange when one starter can beat both the others due to the fact that Chikorita is so weak.

[wraith89]

Eh... Meganium is a pretty awesome wall in UU and has helped me take down stuff like Jolteon one on one. But still, there are better options out there, but I'm picking her because I like her :)

Totodile is my other starter b/c I always pick water.

[FLOOTENKERP]

I'm getting mine as a boy. I hope nobody thinks that's strange.

[wraith89]

All starter Pokes have a gender distribution of 87.5% male and 12.5% female, so it's not surprising at all.

[FLOOTENKERP]

But Chikorita looks more like a boy to me. I don't get why it's widely referred to as a girl.

[<TRINIX>]

But Chikorita looks more like a boy to me. I don't get why it's widely referred to as a girl.
Chikorita and its evolution actually look kinda girlish... :frown:

I'm gonna choose Cindaquil since it has best stats. As a Typhlosion it has pretty good SP. ATK and Speed and is able to learn Eruption (which is really powerful).

[AQUA]

i always pick the grass type because it makes the games harder G/S/C were so easy to finish

[wraith89]

i always pick the grass type because it makes the games harder G/S/C were so easy to finish

They were REALLY easy to finish... but maybe this remake will get better. By the way, Chikorita will only have Magical Leaf/Razor Leaf/Tackle as her only offensive moves in the early stage of the games... and learns Body Slam as a Meganium at level 44!! Considering all the Pokemon that resists Grass moves in this game, I'm hoping for a slight movepool revamp for Chikorita... or else it will be MUCH too hard for her.

[1stsim144]

I choose Totodile, since i love water pokemon

[<TRINIX>]

I heard that the difficulty levels are like this (and it actually make sense if you think about it):

Grass - Hard
Fire - Medium
Water - Easy

[wraith89]

Fire is actually easy and Water is medium. It's because Fire has the advantage on Bugsy, Jasmine, and to an extent, Pryce. But Water has no real disadvantages... and Cyndaquil evolves the earliest out of the three (although Feraligatr comes earliest out of the final stages).

[Narwhal]

155
^ That guy. ^

[alpark94]

Why do I have the feeling NO ONE is going to pick Chikorita? :-/

I dunno...I feel like picking Cyndaquil or Chikorita...Totodile just doesn't appeal to me much for some reaon :P

[chycorita]

I go for Chikorita. And I wonder why the gym leader's so weak. I level my pokemon up to 25 before challenging the first gym...

[Gold Xf]

http://projectpokemon.org/pokedex/sprites/155.png

This guy, because he's a badass.

[Mooie]

You know I always loved Cyndaquil and chose him for Crystal, Silver, and Gold games. but I think this time I might choose Chikorita, probably because i've never used a grass starter before, and it's kind of cute :3

[Fallen]

Meganium was actually the first Pokémon I legitimately rose to level 100. I'm buying both versions, so I may have to draw names from a hat. I was decided early on on who I wanted, but I'm not so sure now.

[Kerz]

Its a tough choice for me, I have not made my mind up.

[Melesmelda]

Totodile has always been my favorite--it's so cute, sounded like Donald Duck in the anime, and I dig crocs and gators.

[A Hacked Soul]

Gator Face or Cyndaquil

[wesman2232]

I will always choose Cyndaquil cause hes so cute then he evolves into his last form which is like steroids looking tough.

[Regina George]

In the orignal Silver version that I had purchases nearly 10 years ago, I ended up choosing Totodile. He was indeed a helpful starter and I swept through the entire game with him single handedly. However, I have decided on choosing Cyndaquil as my starting Pokémon.

I think it'll be a pretty good choice and change in game play, so I'm interested on how it'll turn out. Plus, I've always had a little liking for Cyndaquil before, I just never chose to use it.

[Sukotto50]

I have always chosen the fire type, so Cyndiquil will be my natural choice. Though in truth, it is my least favorite of all the starter fire types.

[PaDdY!]

TYPHLOSION FTW!!!

[Mewtwo Ex]

Chikorita still is quite short. I guess people are not so competitive like Flootenkerp and me.

[Guested]

Chikorita still is quite short. I guess people are not so competitive like Flootenkerp and me.

Or they don't use the same strategies as prescribed by Smogon and the like. You can be competitive with whatever the heck you want.
In fact, unpredictability is a pretty good strategy. If someone knows what moveset you have the second you send out a certain pokemon, then that's bad news.

But this isn't a strategy debate.

I chose Totodile.
Stickin with the same one from my original playthrough. Plus, it'll be better this time around with physical and special being move specific instead of type specific.

[DanteKoriyu]

Definitely going with Cyndaquil on SoulSilver for my main play through. He was the one I thought looked the coolest when I first played GSC and he was also the fire starter. I always pick the fire starter in every generation, no matter if you have an advantage with it or not, simply because I think the fire starters have better designs than the others in ever generation. I still like some of the other starters quite a bit, but burning my path though the game is my tradition.

As for HeartGold, I'll probably pick Chikorita so I can transfer it over to SoulSilver, and then restart and play through it with Totodile.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Chikorita still is quite short. I guess people are not so competitive like Flootenkerp and me.
Most people choose Pokémon based on how cool they look. I bet a lot of people who vote for Totodile and Cyndaquil still might be very good battlers.

[wraith89]

Most people choose Pokémon based on how cool they look. I bet a lot of people who vote for Totodile and Cyndaquil still might be very good battlers.

Eh, Typhlsion's "okay" in competitive battling. The only reason you'd use him is for STAB Eruption... nothing else. Other than that, most other Fire Pokemon outclass him. That's what he gets for being a pure Fire type :(

Totodile on the other hand... is actually awesome. Too bad Gyarados outclasses him in almost many ways aside from Gator getting access to Sword Dance, Ice Punch, and Torrent.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Meganium is a good supporter to the team. With Meganium's healing moves it can make your team stick around for quite a while.

[wraith89]

Meganium is a good supporter to the team. With Meganium's healing moves it can make your team stick around for quite a while.

I use her as a cleric, but too bad other grassers do her job better (Vileplume and Bellossom especially in UU).

If they added Power Gem (or a non-bred Ancientpower) to Chikorita's movepool as they added Metal Claw to Charmander's movepool it would ease her gameplay experience a LOT.

[FLOOTENKERP]

True, but that is why I want a Chikorita. Chikorita is a very hard to use Pokémon making the game much harder. If someone is looking for a challenge, I suggest they go with the weakest starter, which in this case is Chikorita.

[wraith89]

The funny thing is... when I tried Chikorita... I had to use a WHOLE LOT of other Pokes along with her. With Totodile or Cyndaquil, I was able to solo the game with just them (except against Whitney and Morty, but that's a different story). Some people might just bench Chikorita and get a... I don't know... a Fearow. BTW those early game Geodudes are SO useful, but I was never able to find one when I got my Pokeballs (you know, in that route above the first Johto route where Spearows and Jigglypuff and Geodudes are?)

[FLOOTENKERP]

That's another good thing about Chikorita. It is so hard to use it forces you to catch more Pokémon making you fill up your Pokédex. Challenge and Pokédex completion.

[Endless Eden]

hhmm i might just pick chicorita now you guys are kinda convincing me...

i love a challenge :D

[wraith89]

hhmm i might just pick chicorita now you guys are kinda convincing me...

i love a challenge :D

Oh boy. That plant's gonna have a REALLY tough time against Falkner's Pidgeotto and Bugsy's Scyther >=D

And Floot, I never thought about it that way. Good thinking ;)
Although when I did pick Totodile, I caught a Caterpie and made it a Butterfree anyways...
Then I caught a Gastly, a Bellsprout, a Sandshrew and a whole bunch of different pokes.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Oh boy. That plant's gonna have a REALLY tough time against Falkner's Pidgeotto and Bugsy's Scyther >=D

And Floot, I never thought about it that way. Good thinking ;)
Although when I did pick Totodile, I caught a Caterpie and made it a Butterfree anyways...
Thanks. You see, if you saw my record in the GSC section, I have seen 230 Pokémon and own 184. This is because my Chikorita only lasted through at least 3 Pokémon, so my last resort was to catch ever Pokémon in sight. Now I'm focusing on baby Pokémon, but you can see how Chikorita would affect your entire gameplay.

[wraith89]

It doesn't matter who I picked from the beginning though. I catch EVERYTHING in sight. If it's something cute like Wooper, I catch another one once I find it. Too bad the box limit got in my way :(

[FLOOTENKERP]

Not many people do wraith. They only do when they absolutely need to, which is what Chikorita will make the person resort to doing.

[wraith89]

Er... I think most people not named speedrunners DO catch the Pokemon they like and use them to win the game.

[FLOOTENKERP]

I guess so. But are they forced to train them if they have a strong starter to get them through the game? Training leads to evolution which means the starter influences a lot of your gameplay. Chikorita would be the best choice.

[wraith89]

Meh. If you say so. But starters in GSC didn't have much of an effect for me in-game. I just stuck with a better Pokemon eventually (namely Lapras) and did through the whole game without using Feraligatr other than it being an HM slave. Cruel, I know... but he had very little use in GSC.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Not many people knew you could catch Lapras every Friday. That's why a starter would play a big roll in the game. Catching Pokémon and training harder to beat gyms is a good outcome of Chikorita. But I am going to choose Cyndaquil for SS for slightly more ease.

[wraith89]

It didn't even have to be Lapras. Better water Pokemon are everywhere! There's Slowbro, Kingdra, Starmie, Poliwrath, er... bleh. Funny thing is GSC was filled with weak Pokemon. Silver must have been right X_X

As for grass pokes, there were PLENTY of other choices. Your Bellsprout from the early game was a PAIN to train with only a 10 PP Vine Whip which you need to baby until it evolves and then learn Acid at level 26 X_X, but aside from that, there was also Oddish from Ilex Forest and some other good Plant pokes that could replace Chikorita. Chikorita was a bit, well... not so great.

None of the GSC starters were what I'd call awesome, which is why Cyndaquil was preferred then. Aside from Growlithe and Vulpix (which came in the early mid-game), there were not much Fire pokes to use :-/

[FLOOTENKERP]

Chikorita is okay, but not good enough, which will force you to catch other Pokémon and train them which will lead to evolution which will lead to your Pokédex filling up. That's why Chikorita is such a good choice.

[wraith89]

Chikorita is okay, but not good enough, which will force you to catch other Pokémon and train them which will lead to evolution which will lead to your Pokédex filling up. That's why Chikorita is such a good choice.
Is that the only reason why? :creep:
Your starter surely isn't the only incentive in catching more Pokemon is all I mean. You put such a huge emphasis on the starter choice being the main incentive in catching more Pokemon. It certainly does contribute, but it's certainly not the main reason to catch more Pokes :-/

[Greencat]

Grass usually have a lot of weaknesses too, though. Don't they have like five?
Fire only has three, Water only has two. ;D

[wraith89]

Grass usually have a lot of weaknesses too, though. Don't they have like five?
Fire only has three, Water only has two. ;D

Grass is weak to Fire, Ice, Flying, Bug, Poison
Fire is weak to Water, Ground, Rock (all three are SO COMMON X_X)
Water is weak to Electric and Grass