Pokemon Haters: "excuses" that get them to shut up

[D@t@_G@ll@de#3]

Okay, so I've been into Pokemon for about six years, and within all that time I have noticed that some people REALLY hate Pokemon. I think I know why, though. They have seen the anime. See, the problem about the anime is that most poeple grow out of it by age seven or something because of how imature it is. When people see this show, the first thing they think is:"Well this is stupid, which obviously means the video games and tcg are, too. I think I'm gonna boycott Pokemon and be famous among the whole world." This annoys the living crap outts me, so I think this thread will help us understand their selfish nature and how to stop it with "excuses". Post anything about Pokemon that you would say to a hater to make them even possibly start liking the series.

[ZMaster]

The game is fun, even if its childish. There is that satisfactory, after playing it.

It is really sad though, that People don't find Pokemon battling competitive (wireless/WiFi/etc). I find the game extremely competitive, and extremely fun when you know about IV/EV and other stuff.

[Godzilla231]

True. I find it fun and cool to have a stronger Pokémon than the other person
and espcially that you can make the Pokémon stronger than what it suposed to be.

And another thing that makes me sad about PKMN haters is that they don't know the fun of getting all the PKMN and the fun of raising your Pokémon along the way.

[ZMaster]

True. I find it fun and cool to have a stronger Pokémon than the other person
and espcially that you can make the Pokémon stronger than what it suposed to be.

And another thing that makes me sad about PKMN haters is that they don't know the fun of getting all the PKMN and the fun of raising your Pokémon along the way.

What I hate the most is that they start spouting random crap, and they've never even played it before. And even if they did, they treated the game pretty badly =/

[pokemonfan]

True. I find it fun and cool to have a stronger Pokémon than the other person
and espcially that you can make the Pokémon stronger than what it suposed to be.

And another thing that makes me sad about PKMN haters is that they don't know the fun of getting all the PKMN and the fun of raising your Pokémon along the way.

Yeah, I love having the stronger pokemon! Plus, this isn't just something you can fly right through. There is so much to do and learn that you can't just be done with it in a day. I love having knew things to learn all the time and with pokemon I just gobble it all up. So fun, so interesting it is like awesome!

[Midnight]

I've seen plenty a Pokémon hater wanting to remove everything Pokémon-related from Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

Hehe, I said, "If you completely oust Pokémon from Brawl, it would be like removing Metroid, Kirby and Star Fox, too. Not gonna happen."


Yeah, Pokémon haters are allowed to hate Pokémon, but they shouldn't force their opinions on others. :/

[pokemonfan]

Pokemon haters they dont know what they are missing!

[Varna]

In my experience, most people who hate this franchise see it as "uncool" because of it's time as a trend back when it first hit the states. Beyond that, they instantly dismiss it as "kiddy" due to it lacking flashy guns and gore (Halo or any other popular FPS today comes to mind), and turn a deaf ear to any logical argument against their opinion.

As for what do to? Well, just keep doing what you love. You can't force them to like something, but you can ignore them if they chastise you.

[HottSushiz]

Childish, even though that Nintendo intended to make Pokemon childish, they also attempted to make it mature, I mean does two Pokemon as massive as a house, beating the crap out of each, other any means necessary, either by scorching the other with fire, or using their own claws, even grass to slash their opponents, sound childish.

and i don't think any 7 year old, should belong in the competitive battling of Pokemon, and EV, and IV breeding, and training, is way to tedious, and boring for a 7 year old. could take.

[damio]

Pokemon Haters are just jealous because they can't play the game :p

[bear831]

pokemon haters remind me of trying to argue politics with some one I know in my class he won't hear a word against his party member.
(I was trying to leave politics out of this post)

[Jiggy-Ninja]

In my experience, most people who hate this franchise see it as "uncool" because of it's time as a trend back when it first hit the states. Beyond that, they instantly dismiss it as "kiddy" due to it lacking flashy guns and gore (Halo or any other popular FPS today comes to mind), and turn a deaf ear to any logical argument against their opinion.

As for what do to? Well, just keep doing what you love. You can't force them to like something, but you can ignore them if they chastise you.
Those same people probably dismissed The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker due to it's kiddy graphics. A shame, since that was a nice game.

I haven't had much of a problem with Pokemon haters, and even met a couple people at school (high school) that played Pokemon as well. If I did meet one...

"I like it. It's fun for me. If you don't like it, I'm not forcing you to play it, so shut up."

[fenzo666]

I hate Pokémon sooo much.

[Okami]

I hate Pokémon sooo much.

Fenzo, I love you.

[Turtlekid2]

Those same people probably dismissed The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker due to it's kiddy graphics. A shame, since that was a nice game.


The same thing happens with Mario all the time. In fact, it happens with most Nintendo games with the possible exception of Metroid.

[evandixon]

I hate Pokémon sooo much.

Then why are you here?

[Lady Aquarii]

I hate Pokémon sooo much.

Lies and slander!

[Varna]

Those same people probably dismissed The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker due to it's kiddy graphics. A shame, since that was a nice game.

I haven't had much of a problem with Pokemon haters, and even met a couple people at school (high school) that played Pokemon as well. If I did meet one...

"I like it. It's fun for me. If you don't like it, I'm not forcing you to play it, so shut up."

Touché! I loathe the Wind Waker games. I just don't like the style they're done in, and I absolutely hate the concept of "Toon Link" (though Brawl honestly may have had a hand in amplifying that).

[pennypenny123]

Pokemon haters don't know the half of it! If they think pokemon is just some stupid TV show and merely nothing else ever, then they know nothing whatsoever (no offense to those who think that way!). Theres also toys, shirts, trading cards, movies, and video games! (did I miss any? lol) I think the games are fun because you need to think strategically to win! Also because the pokemon look like awesomely cool monsters! lol!

[D@t@_G@ll@de#3]

man youshouldve saw the dojo last night. I was takin karate classes thirsday and at the end i just sat down and played my firered version. soon enough everyones crowded around me sayin "this game is tight!" or "i used to be addicted to this game!" my sister wasnt too happy about that but i know somewhere in her theres an interest.;)

[Torte de Lini]

I think everyone is viewing Pokemon haters at the wrong standpoint and basing their arguments on the OP's original assumptions.

Which, too, may or may not be accurate.

[Lady Aquarii]

To be 100% literally honest, it's due to their original US release in 1998. When they hit, most 7-11-year-olds spooged about them. As they should. The TCG made them spooge even more.

Thing is, gamers are nerds - by default. And us nerds... we like to talk nerdy - a lot - to EVERYONE. And nerdy talk is annoying TO EVERYONE, even other nerds, since we have a tendency to ramble and fan squee the whole time. And being a little kid = x 65421321321321 annoying stat.

Hell, any fan squee is annoying. It's just when it came out there where SO MANY of us and ALL OF US where so young and we wouldn't shut our rambly mouths.

We talked about it SO MUCH, and the publicity was SO HUGE it just annoyed the hell out of anyone who didn't care or thought it was stupid. It just got so big with all the publicity and the "success" of the anime, that it became a big, fat, worldwide stereotype. It's mostly North America that I know has such a bad reputation, but it exists world-wide.

Like all stereotypes, it's based on fact, but it's majoritivly untrue :3


I mean, really? What other game is there where you can make your fire monkey bludgeon an electric squirrel to "faint"? NONE.

Honestly, all pokemon is is a colored, glorified version of cock fighting :|

[Pokemiester]

I make fun of the pokenerds at school all the time, and keep pokemon a secret. I have encounterd may who hate it, so I just agree. That is my solution.

[Destati]

People tend to shutup once I start talking about the mechanics

[Varna]

Oh, and just point to the numbers backing up the popularity of the games/TCG.

People shut up real fast.

[ZMaster]

People just don't understand IT`S JUST A GAME!

Most of them tend to like really violent games and call others names for not playing them.
I got called a name for not playing GTA = =
GTA, to me, is the worst themed game ever. Why would you make a game of violence, only to add more violence to stupid little annoying kids, leading to gangsters/wannabe people who have non-sense vocabulary and pointless attire? Why would you influence crime? Is it really that fun to steal stuff?

[Klrc102]

To be 100% literally honest, it's due to their original US release in 1998. When they hit, most 7-11-year-olds spooged about them. As they should. The TCG made them spooge even more.

Thing is, gamers are nerds - by default. And us nerds... we like to talk nerdy - a lot - to EVERYONE. And nerdy talk is annoying TO EVERYONE, even other nerds, since we have a tendency to ramble and fan squee the whole time. And being a little kid = x 65421321321321 annoying stat.

Hell, any fan squee is annoying. It's just when it came out there where SO MANY of us and ALL OF US where so young and we wouldn't shut our rambly mouths.

We talked about it SO MUCH, and the publicity was SO HUGE it just annoyed the hell out of anyone who didn't care or thought it was stupid. It just got so big with all the publicity and the "success" of the anime, that it became a big, fat, worldwide stereotype. It's mostly North America that I know has such a bad reputation, but it exists world-wide.

Like all stereotypes, it's based on fact, but it's majoritivly untrue :3


I mean, really? What other game is there where you can make your fire monkey bludgeon an electric squirrel to "faint"? NONE.

Honestly, all pokemon is is a colored, glorified version of cock fighting :|

QFT


I make fun of the pokenerds at school all the time, and keep pokemon a secret. I have encounterd may who hate it, so I just agree. That is my solution.

I agree with this, I'm a closet Pokemon fan.

Out of every JRPG out there, Pokemon is the only one I can actually play for over 3 seconds. I just can't stand how FF and such keep repeating the same storyline with different characters, or how nearly every JPRG rarely differs from any other.

The difference is, Pokemon follows the whole RPG story curve, but it somehow manages to be different from the likes of Final Fantasy and such. It's weird.

It also dosen't help that most people who do like Pokemon aren't the coolest or the sanest people in the world. Hence why I don't announce my enjoyment for Pokemon to the world.

And I'm a programmer, we're all insane :P

And yes, theres that whole "Pokemon isn't manly!" I know a guy who's never played an RPG in his lifetime. Just FPS's and Racing games. Any game that's not similar to "Gears of War" or "Halo" is retarded in his opinion. He won't even acknowledge games like "Shadowrun" simply because it's got Elves, Dwarfs and Trolls in it.

Some people just hate playing anything that's different.

[Killidan9216]

When any kids at school talk about pokemon I'll sarcastically say "Hey don't make fun of that!" or "Psh I was just playing that last night!" and since I say it sarcastically it looks like I'm joking around whereas I very possibly could be serious :P so I'm not lying I'm just disguising the truth. I would also like to point out the people who don't like ninjas (not like naruto or w/e but like real flippy aroundy and ninja star throwy ninjas) are dumb too. Ninjas are awesome !

and.... :bidoof: just because its cool!

[Greencat]

I hate Pokémon sooo much.
Almost as much as you hate Haunter, huh?

[Destati]

Haunter sucks

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[Lady Aquarii]

Haunter sucks

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I see what you did there >w>

[Doc]

no one knows i play pokemon except the people on this site and my sister so ive never had problems with haters.

i guess i never will cause pokemon is like my dirty little secret and im happy for it to stay like that

[mewmart]

I don't see anything wrong with playing Pokemon, just that I think people in Singapore are not really into competitive battling somehow.

Yeah some people even think it's outdated and stuff, but I don't think so. If it can be affected by trends, I would say things like DoTA would have gone the way of the dodo already. Although it's true that more people embrace the PSP rather than the DS because they think the DS games are cheesy and dumb.

[fenzo666]

no one knows i play pokemon except the people on this site and my sister so ive never had problems with haters.

i guess i never will cause pokemon is like my dirty little secret and im happy for it to stay like that

That ^

[pokemonfan]

Have people considered that the guy who created this and all of his nerdy followers are all really really really really really really really really rich?

Yeah sometimes its just best not to say you play pokemon....my neighbor thinks its stupid and I'm so sick of hearing it. He used to play it and got EVERY single legendary! Plus he knew every NON AR trick there was. He was really good but then he quit because he got bored. I just dont see how you can get bored after years of fan devotion! Now he wont even listen to my pokemon defense....how sad is that.

Obsession with it is contagious to young people though. Me and my friend have spread it to all of our little siblings and now they all love pokemon! I spread it to my friend who used to play pokemon and is the same age as me so I'm surprised he is obsessed now.

Pokemon haters dont know what they're missing.

[Jiggy-Ninja]

The same thing happens with Mario all the time. In fact, it happens with most Nintendo games with the possible exception of Metroid.
Tell me about. I'm sick and tired of of hearing about how much more powerful the other consoles and handhelds are compared to the DS and Wii, and their much better graphics. TBH, there hasn't been any really great graphics improvements since the N64, in any system. All we're getting is a higher polygon count and more realistic physics, both of which are only marginally good. Graphics are largely good enough and, and one of the awesome things about games is that they don't need to follow realistic physics. See Super Mario Galaxy as an example.

Metroid Prime is the only game where I was literally amazed by the graphics, because they looked so much better and so much more detailed than any other Gamecube game I have ever seen. Other than that, as long as I can tell one object from another, I'm usually good.

I want to see gaming companies stop spending so much on graphics and HD shit and seriously pour some money into bettering their AIs. Ideally, I want an AI to be like a person: creative, learns from mistakes, able to recognize effective tactics on its own (so it can actually fight effectively, and not how the game maker thinks it'll be effective), etc. It's tough, but that's the advance I really want to see. Until then, AI will always be able to be beaten by exploiting it's patterns.

For example, in SSBM, Final Destination, Ganondorf (me) vs. Bowser (Lv9 CPU), I could get the first KO in less than 4 seconds if I didn't mess up the sequence.

Dash, double jump over the fire breath, F-air, F-tilt 2-3 times, Short hop a D-air to spike him into the abyss.

I won a 4 stock match once in 1:03, with only 32% damage.

The computer was never able to learn that using Fire Breath on a Ganon running straight at you at the beginning of the match is not a good idea. It got boring after a while, and it's no fun to handicap your own fighting style to compensate for the CPU's predictability.

I demand nothing less than an AI that can pass the video game version of the Turing Test. Until the, all the glitz that graphics advances bring is just polishing a turd, metaphorically speaking.

Wow, that was more than I'd planned on doing.

[Klaatu]

I love it how every pokemon is so well thought out. Their designs are superior to any other IMO. I mean they look cute and cool at the same time without being overdone with 859237542309 spikes or 50% of them being DARK EVIL DRAGON OF DOOM etc... Then there's the complexity of 17 types, alot of strategic game mechanics like IV/EV, natures, egg moves and what not.

The people I met who dislike Pokemon, the reason is always that they saw the anime and never heard of games. So I can understand them in a way. I can't stop laughing at the bullcrap and nonsense when I see an episode. And it also makes me sad when they ignore how the pokemon world works in the games 90% of the time and make up their own logic. <.<

[mewmart]

It's all down to blatant self-assumption on their part Klaatu. Don't brood too much about it, we Pokemon fans are with you =D

[Jiggy-Ninja]

And it also makes me sad when they ignore how the pokemon world works in the games 90% of the time and make up their own logic. <.<
At least it's not as bad as the original Yu-Gi-Oh.

"Giant Soldier of Stone, attack the moon!"

I'm still baffled by that entire duel to this day.

[wraith89]

It's all down to blatant self-assumption on their part Klaatu. Don't brood too much about it, we Pokemon fans are with you =D

But I REALLY hate Pokemon...

I think the biggest turn off for Pokemon haters is the anime. They haven't really played the game and seen how competitive it is.


At least it's not as bad as the original Yu-Gi-Oh.

"Giant Soldier of Stone, attack the moon!"

I'm still baffled by that entire duel to this day.

Me too. I'll never understand that. Nor will I understand how Mystical Elf gave all her Attack Points to Blue Eyes White Dragon and raised it up to 4100 without anything.

I guess I'll say one thing: "Screw the rules!"

[Klaatu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP24KR2nOzg
T__T
I mean WTF...

It really makes Pokemon look like total bs q.q

It would be awesome if there was another Pokemon anime. One that is based on the games more than just including the same characters and locations. A story of a totally different Character every 10 or so episodes would rock. It wouldn't be....BORING

[wraith89]

*sigh*

More Pikachu ownage? I'm kinda getting sick of that.
And please refrain from swearing.

And yikes! I had NO idea Pikachu could do that. Well, it's the omnipotent Pikachu... what am I supposed to do? >_>

[mewmart]

Yep I must agree, the anime is getting quite cheesy already. It's always "Ash saves the day" kind of ending. Pretty lame IMO.

[pokemonfan]

We pokemon fans have to stick together!

I think if you sat down with a pokemon hater, they listened, and you listened to their argument and you explained the intricacy and success of pokemon they might shut up about it. Pokemon can actually be really really competitive. I believe that the older they are, the harder it is to sway them to the pokemon side.

[wraith89]

We pokemon fans have to stick together!

I think if you sat down with a pokemon hater, they listened, and you listened to their argument and you explained the intricacy and success of pokemon they might shut up about it. Pokemon can actually be really really competitive. I believe that the older they are, the harder it is to sway them to the pokemon side.

But I hate Pokemon. How many times must I say this? :(

Anyways, just explain the complexity of the game to the haters and they'll just shut up.

[pokemonfan]

Indeed...how could you hate pokemon if you know so much and still spent the time of day/night here?

[wraith89]

Knowing stuff and liking stuff are two different things, PF. :p
The world's even more insane. There are pastors who don't believe in God and yet gets up in the pulpit every Sunday to preach! Talk about hypocrisy!

[VirusScan]

Pokémon is a great game... Here in the Philipppines, almost all of the smart guys are playing with it... We started to battle with each other through links... From primary to secondary and even to college persons, Pokémon games are popular... It's like having a tamagochi pet or even more and it's an unending adventure with a wide range of imagination that makes it more fun to play with... Too bad, those haters are missing it so much... Oh, and also, if you want to enhance your strategical skills, star playing Pokémon!!! It will help you a lot!!! Hehehe...:grog:

[pokemonfan]

Pokémon is a great game... Here in the Philipppines, almost all of the smart guys are playing with it... We started to battle with each other through links... From primary to secondary and even to college persons, Pokémon games are popular... It's like having a tamagochi pet or even more and it's an unending adventure with a wide range of imagination that makes it more fun to play with... Too bad, those haters are missing it so much... Oh, and also, if you want to enhance your strategical skills, star playing Pokémon!!! It will help you a lot!!! Hehehe...:grog:

Agreed! Pokemon haters dont know what they're missing! Plus, I think it does improve strategy skills, also my research skills have definitely improved. Back when I knew nothing about pokemon I had to look up a lot of things to help me through the game and information on pokemon such as type advantages and weaknesses that weren't plainly obvious. So because of that my research abilities have improved. However, I'm unable to convince anyone that pokemon is educational or has educational value :eek:

[Poke888]

I think pokemon as a whole help real animals.

Think about this, if we play pokemon. I think at least we will be keeping the wildlife alone rather than shooting wildlife for that similar kind of high we get when we capture a legendary for example.

[ocwil]

I think pokemon as a whole help real animals.

Think about this, if we play pokemon. I think at least we will be keeping the wildlife alone rather than shooting wildlife for that similar kind of high we get when we capture a legendary for example.

haha... i want to see a legendary wild animal.
then shoot it :wink:
but i would miss because i wouldn't kill a lonely animal that hasn't any one with him/her to have some relation with(but maybe i would just to help him out of his missery)