Nintendo Attempts to Drown Hacked 3DSs with Banwave

how to keep the network switch off ? 

by pulling down the small thing in the top right corner of the ds right  ?

7 minutes ago, TheObserverYouAlwaysWanted said:

how to keep the network switch off ? 

by pulling down the small thing in the top right corner of the ds right  ?

depends on what model you have.
O3DS/O3DS XL will be the physical switch on the side

2DS/N3DS/N3DSXL will be done via Home Menu

oh thanks and btw just heard that player who never cheated whatsoever are also receiving this ban

30 minutes ago, TheObserverYouAlwaysWanted said:

oh thanks and btw just heard that player who never cheated whatsoever are also receiving this ban

we can't trust hearsay.

Let's just wait for analysis and findings.

i have an idea for testing this banwave thing but i wanna run it by you before trying it out

what if we keep a backup of the unbanned save game file for precaution

27 minutes ago, TheObserverYouAlwaysWanted said:

i have an idea for testing this banwave thing but i wanna run it by you before trying it out

what if we keep a backup of the unbanned save game file for precaution

save game file isn't the problem.

It's a blacklist held on Nintendo Server side.

Every console has a unique "seed file", once they log that and ban that seed file, you won't be able to connect.

21 minutes ago, TheObserverYouAlwaysWanted said:

i have an idea for testing this banwave thing but i wanna run it by you before trying it out

what if we keep a backup of the unbanned save game file for precaution

This ban is affecting gamers with CFW on their 3DS'.  A Game Sync ban would be ideal.

Looks like no online mode for the time being 

I got banned.

7 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

Every console has a unique "seed file", once they log that and ban that seed file, you won't be able to connect.

Can this ban be bypassed if ... by magik triks... new CFW makes new "seed files" ?

IDK what is that "seed file" ~  sorry my lame english

2 minutes ago, JISN064 said:

Can this ban be bypassed if ... by magik triks... new CFW makes new "seed files" ?
IDK what is that "seed file" ~  sorry my lame english

CFW cannot create the seed file.

I guess it's a blessing in disguise that my ambassador B9S 3ds's impact-related semi-recurring stuck pixels became stuck again, so therefore I have a reason not to turn it on due to ugliness, that and the ban wave. I also hid my friend code so nobody can see it, such as nintendo.

3 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

CFW cannot create the seed file.

Would restoring a NAND backup work for the people who did get theirs banned? It'd be a long shot though...

24 minutes ago, coltonsmogon said:

Would restoring a NAND backup work for the people who did get theirs banned? It'd be a long shot though...

Nope.

Think of it like this.
Your seed file (LocalFriendCodeSeed) remains unaltered, between the present nand and backed-up nand.

Nintendo server side blacklisted your seed, so you won't be able to use their online services.

Hence, the Nand backup makes no difference, as said above, the seed file is the same, and you're banned server side.

The only way is to import a seed from another device thats not banned, but they could very well ban that second seed.
To add on, IIRC the Seed has a RSA signature, and the signature method wasn't dumped (I think sighax has no hold over it),
meaning that seeds cannot be generated.

The research into the Seed file and unbanning of 002-0102 has been around since the first Pokemon Sun & Moon Pirates ban.

This situation is more severe than the original,
because at the beginning only those that pirate SM early played games before official release got banned,
but it seems they have a newer detection method to catch anyone using CFW, even if they aren't pirating games early,
so unbanning by doing a seed swap might be pointless, cause if they could detect it easily, they could just ban the 3DS again.
(or make things worse, even do a NNID & Device ID ban)

 According to 3dbrew, http://3dbrew.org/wiki/Nand/private/movable.sed, and https://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/Nandrw/sys/LocalFriendCodeSeed_B, the data for the local friendcode seed is copied to the movable.sed keyslot, which is updated when transferring or formatting. Since sighax will let us decrypt the 3DS firmware, we may be able to figure out what part of the transfer/format is usable to update the seed, which will allow us to change the seed, remove and fake the RSA it is needed for, and possibly unban a console.

According to https://techdrake.com/2016/11/here-are-some-legit-ways-to-get-unbanned-from-pokemon-sun-moon/, you can unban an error 002-0102 3ds via A: the method we know using 2 3ds, or B: use that page's method 2 which uses the movable.sed and a hex editor to unban NNID and LocalFriendCodeSeed via editing the seed in both locations. I think the 3dbrew research matches, but I am semi-positive it will work, but the source WAS gbatemp, at this link: http://gbatemp.net/threads/all-3-methods-to-get-unbanned-from-recent-ban-wave.450679/

People are already on that, @St. GIGA, multiple consoles have been unbanned through this thread: https://gbatemp.net/threads/all-3-methods-to-get-unbanned-from-recent-ban-wave.450679/page-6
Someone unbanned through this method unlisted on the front page: https://gbatemp.net/threads/all-3-methods-to-get-unbanned-from-recent-ban-wave.450679/page-6#post-6880497
Uncertain how long they'll last though. There are reports of even unmodded consoles getting banned through this banwave.

3 minutes ago, coltonsmogon said:

People are already on that, @St. GIGA, multiple consoles have been unbanned through this thread: https://gbatemp.net/threads/all-3-methods-to-get-unbanned-from-recent-ban-wave.450679/page-6
Someone unbanned through this method unlisted on the front page: https://gbatemp.net/threads/all-3-methods-to-get-unbanned-from-recent-ban-wave.450679/page-6#post-6880497
Uncertain how long they'll last though. There are reports of even unmodded consoles getting banned through this banwave.

it seems that these methods are what theSlayer talking about, maybe pointless. 

Woah... Nintendo's usually been lenient but now it looks like they're going Sony. 

I've recently played it yesterday to finish off SoV but I don't think I got a ban. I also have "Send data to Nintendo" on but now after hearing this, I don't think I want to turn on my 3DS. :[

Me neither, after those claims of legit users getting bans too... *shudders*

I'm thinking about turning off my router so I can switch the wifi off on my 3DS. Might be pointless but I wanna play some PSMD. Ha

Ok, after turning on my 3DS I'm not banned and made my way to turn off "sending data via SpotPass" in System Settings. Also after talking to some friends that have CFW 3DSes I can confirm they're safe. Thank God! 

What I'm scared of now though is that I installed A9LH for my cousin's O3DS back in February and I don't know if she'll be banned considering she's still on an older Luma version. Should I still tell her to go online even though she hasn't had the time to play it for the past weeks?

1 hour ago, Holla! said:

Ok, after turning on my 3DS I'm not banned and made my way to turn off "sending data via SpotPass" in System Settings. Also after talking to some friends that have CFW 3DSes I can confirm they're safe. Thank God! 

What I'm scared of now though is that I installed A9LH for my cousin's O3DS back in February and I don't know if she'll be banned considering she's still on an older Luma version. Should I still tell her to go online even though she hasn't had the time to play it for the past weeks?

Since we don't know exactly what triggers the bans, that would be best.

7 hours ago, St. GIGA said:

 According to 3dbrew, http://3dbrew.org/wiki/Nand/private/movable.sed, and https://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/Nandrw/sys/LocalFriendCodeSeed_B, the data for the local friendcode seed is copied to the movable.sed keyslot, which is updated when transferring or formatting. Since sighax will let us decrypt the 3DS firmware, we may be able to figure out what part of the transfer/format is usable to update the seed, which will allow us to change the seed, remove and fake the RSA it is needed for, and possibly unban a console.

According to https://techdrake.com/2016/11/here-are-some-legit-ways-to-get-unbanned-from-pokemon-sun-moon/, you can unban an error 002-0102 3ds via A: the method we know using 2 3ds, or B: use that page's method 2 which uses the movable.sed and a hex editor to unban NNID and LocalFriendCodeSeed via editing the seed in both locations. I think the 3dbrew research matches, but I am semi-positive it will work, but the source WAS gbatemp, at this link: http://gbatemp.net/threads/all-3-methods-to-get-unbanned-from-recent-ban-wave.450679/

Nope.
They've already researched this long before.

The seed isn't miraculously regenerated.
It appears that system transfer *may* swap seed once, but that's about it.

Removing and faking the RSA is the tedious part, so that shouldn't be thrown around that easily.
Until we get word from any of the devs, treat that portion as impossible.

As said, seed swapping methods existed,
but right now if they upped their game with detection,
you might end up getting your swapped seed banned too.

how long does the banwave last

6 minutes ago, TheObserverYouAlwaysWanted said:

how long does the banwave last

The bans should be permanent, as per last time.

When will they decide to stop attacking in waves? No idea, we don't work for Nintendo