Poke J

At the moment what save manager can we use to extract and inject saves with?  Currently JKSM isn't recognizing the game on the system and SaveDataFiler corrupts the save every time I attempt to inject a save.

I particularly like Sludge Bomb Zoroark, but in general Zoroark can make it look like any Pokemon knows unique moves (then you get called a dirty hacker).

3 hours ago, HaxAras said:

Where is this Kadabra location? I don't have an under-leveled Crystal Kadabra marked down. 

That is a typo on my part.  I accidentally referred to the one on Crystal which isn't under leveled when I meant to refer to the under level one in Gold and Silver.  The Kadabra that @jojo12100 posted appears to be the Kadabra from Gold and Silver which would be the correct one for the trade.  Before anyone else posts saying that according to Serebii that there is a lv 8 Kadabra in Union Cave in Crystal, that is a typo it actually is a Geodude.

That's all fine and dandy, I don't actually have a copy of Japanese Crystal or Japanese Stadium 2, but I do have a Japanese Blue.  I Just wanted to make sure that we are agree that it would be possible to obtain these Pokemon with the method outlined above.  This leads me to my proposal of how to actually get these two.  When I was playing through Green I learnt that the trainer fly glitch works in the game and so the glitch should be present in Blue as well.  Therefore I could glitch the Kadabra and Machoke raise them to the level that they can be obtained in Crystal at and then do the trades.

In the Japanese version of Pokemon Blue there are two trainers that will trade you a Haunter and a Graveler in exchange for a Kadabra and a Machoke.  However, in order to get them at the lowest possible level the Kadabra and the Machoke would have to be from Crystal version, but upon trading them they would evolve.  This got me thinking if I were to deposit them onto Pokemon Stadium Gold/Silver I could transfer them to Blue without them evolving therefore allowing for the under level trade for Haunter and Graveler take place.  Is my thought process correct or am I missing something here?

Without seeing the actual files it's hard to determine what could be the issue with the Pokémon.  My guess is since all of those Pokémon can only be 100% male and they were hatched from an egg there could be an issue with the program correctly recognizing that a female Pokémon of a different species can breed those Pokémon.  Therefore a 100% male Pokémon of that species can be from an egg with its hidden ability.  However, I didn't make the program or know it's code so I can't be entirely sure were the issue is arising.

Unfortunately it seems that I'm am going to be busy for the next bit.  However, @HaxAras has aggreed to take over and maintain the thread in my place.

Thanks @Flametix, those are some hard Pokémon to get.  I've been trying to get the Kommo-o for about 10 hours now.  I'll add them on Tuesday.  Thank you again for your contribution!

Thanks @Johnwraight for this massive contribution.  I'll update the main post and download folder on Tuesday.

@St. GIGA people knew how to distribute fake Pokémon back then.  If my memory is correct at the Pokémon Platinum lunch event someone was distributing  an offensive Gengar to attendees.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm certain that the NPower Pikachu was proven to be a fake. There was an article written here years ago called "Cute, but Fake" or that at least is a quote from the post it was a long time ago.  Any how it outlined how the event was faked.

I've found an old forum post that also talks about the original post that outlines how the Pikachu is fake.  I can't find the original post at this time 

Sorry @Johnwraight the way I worded my last message was confusing.  Yes, use PkHex to extract the Pokémon from the save.  What I was referring to were homebrew applications that allow you to dump your save like JKSM or trading the Pokémon onto a flash cart in order to extract.

7 hours ago, HaxAras said:

I also refuse to do any more like Magcargo and Tentacruel. It took so long to get those 2. I spent over 8 hours fishing one day only to move onto 5-6 hours of busting rocks. 

@HaxAras I don't blame you I'm going onto 6 hours trying to get Kommo-o. Just catch whatever you can or feel like catch.

@Johnwraight you can defiantly help. I think @HaxAras is working on gen 5 and I'm working on gen 5 and 7.  But, right now since there are so many Pokémon to get just catch what every you want just as long as you have the means to extract the Pokémon or the save file from your game.

Also @HaxAras I've get my hands on a copy of Green Version so I can get you those in game trades at the lowest possible level.

Thank you @jojo12100 for the corrections and @NinFanBoyFTW for the contributions.  I'll update the lists and the download folder next week when I can get onto an actual computer.

24 minutes ago, HaxAras said:

Anything in particular? I have a complete White save as well. I could import some Pokemon and we could try to knock out gen 5 together. 

As of now I don't have any particular targets as I'm playing through the game with a more open mind this time, so it'll be what ever I stumble upon at first.  Afterwards I'll try and RNG abuse the more hard to find ones, but I'll have to find a table that lists the encounter slots to make that a feasible method.  As of now just catch what ever you want to catch and just mention at some point in time that you've caught that one so I can update the list.

So I decided that the OT rule was stupid so I got rid of it.  For the next week I'm going on a road trip so I'll have some down time so I'm planning on getting the SOS Pokemon in gen 7 and do another Black play through so I'll catch those ones as I see them.

3 hours ago, jojo12100 said:

Finally got the lv5 Jellicent today. Let's hunt the Seismitoad (chances are 1/520 to see it).

Another correction: there is no lv15 Swarm in B2W2 and the Azumarill is at lv5.

And the SM Butterfree is at lv9.

Does anyone know the encounter slot for that Seismitoad so that RNG abuse can be used?  Last I checked the link RNG Reporter gave for gen 5 encounter tables was dead.

Good eye @jojo12100 the lists have been fixed.  Thanks @HaxAras and @Got_Eevees for your contributions I'll be able to look through the files tomorrow.  

@HaxAras thanks!  I'll take a look through the file when I get home and give you credit for those ones.  The OT is fine I only suggested the OT thing to try and prevent potential offensive names.

@Got_Eevees nothing has been obtained on the list yet.  Also the Pokémon on the list are the only Pokémon that this thread is concerned with at the moment.  It will be expansed upon when future games come out.

Pokemon lists have been added to the main post.  @HaxAras I lack the knowledge at this point to obtain the rental Pokemon from Stadium do you know how to extract them?  Also, I'm thinking that those Pokemon might go with the Unreleased/Prototype thread than this one.  What are your thoughts?

@Got_Eevees I'm going through gen 4 tables right now, I haven't really set much time a side for this project and things got a little delayed due to spending time with friends before they leave for the year again.  Expect the original post to be amended soon a full list of under leveled Pokemon.  Just keep in mind there will probably be errors in the list at first.

2 hours ago, HaxAras said:

Thanks for saving me the trouble of going for the in-game trade mons! I've been trying to find people who have the in-game trades at the lowest legit levels and nobody ever does. But I also want them in every language. 

Here are some resources I found while searching for the same Pokemon in the last week. 

  Reveal hidden contents

Google doc I found and copied that was set to be deleted. 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M55T7JtJ-6OPpysCN2tlILyYoPUOsoRfA1a-xOHsHiw/edit#gid=0

 

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:AllAreEqual/Underleveled_Pokémon#Generation_IV

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Nikuriku/Underleveled_Pokemon

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pika_Cup

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Spriteit/Underleveled_Pokémon

The picture is what I have so far. Along with a couple level 35 in-game trade Haunter from gen 4 and a level 20 Gengar, 3 level 7Pidgeotto in gen 7 currently. 

Edit: Here's my gen 3 in-game trade collection. All the in game trades at the lowest possible level they can be, gen 3 only. Every language for the main series games. I only have the English Colo/XD: mons. 

Pokemon Fire Red GEN3 Legit Event Pokemon 1-17-17 - Trades.sav

I'm glad that posting these were able to help you.  As I was going through encounter tables I've learnt that the Bulbapedia page I was using for reference had some wrong information and some of the gen 1 and 2 in-game trade Pokemon can actually be found at lower levels then documented on that page.  But, I'll have to double check on that information by checking in game.  As for getting them in all languages I'd love to do that, but as I do not own any other language game other than english ones I'd need to rely on emulation to get them or find others with different language versions to help out.

24 minutes ago, Got_Eevees said:

@Poke J Yep. That sounds neat. (Thanks for letting me help out!) Something that always annoys me, drives me crazy, and makes me feel sad/desperate is when people make topics for a download instead of putting them in the Downloads section.

Because If you think about it...

How many amazing or cool downloads will never be found?...

D: Do ya think we should finish this topic and then compile a Full Download list for tha Downloads section? or should we instead post here and then in the Downloads section?(Individually. One by ONE. 0.O A bit tedious, no?)

That is something that is 100% out of our control.  I don't know who makes that decision, but it isn't something we do not have authorization to do.  Otherwise the download section would be flooded with everyone's stuff and nothing would ever get found.  So no, files get uploaded to this thread and maybe, but leaning greatly to the side that this will never be considered as something that will be incorporated into the downloads section.

5 hours ago, Got_Eevees said:

Nice! Do you think we could team up? (We could make a new Dropbox account and share it.)

I could train some Pokes here and there.

If you'd like you can help out.  There won't be any training of Pokemon required since the only Pokemon left are ones to find in the wild.  I still need to look through encounter tables to see where under leveled Pokemon are located, but I'll do that early next week as I heading out of town for the weekend.  In terms of a Dropbox any Pokemon caught can be uploaded to this tread or use the privet messaging for discussion that doesn't need to be public.

Good day everyone!  The aim of this thread is to collect all of the Pokemon that can be legally obtained under level in game i.e. Magicarp evolves into Gyarados at level 20, but can be found at level 15 in Pokemon Yellow.  Below you'll find a list of Pokemon for each generation and the level that they are encountered at, as well as, what game they are caught in (if no game is listed then the Pokemon can be found in all games in that generation at that level).  Also, please note that the given location is not the only location that the Pokemon can be found at that level it's just the first one I saw and that there maybe errors in the lists so don't hesitate to point them out so that they can be corrected.

If you got any updates, you can send it to @jojo12100! (he's managing the sheet seen below)

If you'd like to contribute to this thread please follow these guidelines and recommendations:

• Please no Pokemon from Wonder Trade or GTS
• Try to use actual hardware

Also, considering adding the under leveled Pokemon from Pokemon Stadium

So far I've only done the Pokemon that can be obtained through trading with NPCs as outlined on Bulbapedia's In-Game Trade page.  https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/In-game_trade .  As a side note not all Pokemon are recognized as legal with PKHex.  As well, not all Pokemon can be legally transferred to gen 7 as some required breeding in gen 2 to get the lowest possible level for the Pokemon that was traded.  Those ones will be legal once the Pokemon Gold and Pokemon Silver virtual counsel games are released in September.  Also, some where obtained in Pokemon Crystal and will not be legal for transfer to gen 7 for the foreseeable future.  (Download Folder is up to date)

Under Leveled.zip