SwagKey Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 Seriously, this demo really loves me. I traded three of them over to Japanese Blue since Hoothoot can't be traded over. I did some testing and Pokemon that are shiny in the demo RETAIN their shininess when traded back. Just don't trade it to a retail Gold and Silver since the shiny odds changed. Here's the demo shinies I traded over to Japanese Blue. The Caterpie isn't the same one from earlier, I just so happened to run into another shiny one. 010 - キャタピー - 913D.pk1Fetching info... 011 - トランセル - 5BE3.pk1Fetching info... 023 - アーボ - F85C.pk1Fetching info...
jojo12100 Posted June 6, 2018 Author Posted June 6, 2018 Can someone translate me "wtw paste loadzones" from gs demo spreadsheet please I don't understand but it can help me to discover new Pokemon from the demo
Guest Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) wtw = walk through walls walk through walls past loadzones Edited June 6, 2018 by Guest
jojo12100 Posted June 6, 2018 Author Posted June 6, 2018 On 6/6/2018 at 3:24 PM, Purin said: wtw = walk through walls Expand Oh ok thanks, that's what I did in fact but it's not an easy method. I discovered that there is wild Pokemon in water too
St. GIGA Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) Try using the time capsule and Johto Guard Glitch between Spaceworld and JP Gold/Crystal to get gen2 mons dumped... Edited June 6, 2018 by St. GIGA
theSLAYER Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/6/2018 at 11:56 PM, St. GIGA said: Try using the time capsule and Johto Guard Glitch between Spaceworld and JP Gold/Crystal to get gen2 mons dumped... Expand are those NPCs active? As far as I can tell, none of the NPCs outside of the Silent Hills communicate with players..
St. GIGA Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) @SwagKey got JP Blue to trade with 1997 Gold, so maybe the time capsule could make gen2 treat beta as gen1, and using the guard glitch to trade any demomon with gen1 moves in, normalizing it as a gen2 pokemon... @theSLAYER Edited June 7, 2018 by St. GIGA
SwagKey Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/7/2018 at 12:05 AM, theSLAYER said: are those NPCs active? As far as I can tell, none of the NPCs outside of the Silent Hills communicate with players.. Expand The Pokemon Center in the next town, "Old" town, has a working battle and trade area with functional NPCs for the features. I used the Time Capsule there to trade with a Japanese Blue for exporting, although I heard if you communicate with the final Japanese GSC it errors out. On 6/7/2018 at 12:20 AM, St. GIGA said: @SwagKey got JP Blue to trade with 1997 Gold, so maybe the time capsule could make gen2 treat beta as gen1, and using the guard glitch to trade any demomon with gen1 moves in, normalizing it as a gen2 pokemon... @theSLAYER Expand Yeah, that's not going to work. The demo has completely different internal IDs for Pokemon, so if you trade something past Meganium's ID it will become something completely different. This is why I'm playing it safe and only exporting Gen 1 mons from the demo, they're the safest and are globally compatible with the first two generations. The only way we could ever use these demomon pk2 files properly is if PKHeX adds support for these demos...which I heard won't be coming any time soon because Kaphotics says they are way too different from the final. 1
St. GIGA Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 The Johto guard glitch might work with the normal method, but don't count on it...
jojo12100 Posted June 8, 2018 Author Posted June 8, 2018 I won't sorry, but I'll surely be in Japan Expo in Paris a month later. Maybe they'll show it too there? To all people interested by the GS demo Mobile Trainer ROM has a beta Tyranitar picture inside. And also @StarsMmd is working very hard on Colosseum, cut trainers was a dead end but there is still the 21st card to resolve.
theSLAYER Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 On 6/8/2018 at 11:18 PM, jojo12100 said: To all people interested by the GS demo Mobile Trainer ROM has a beta Tyranitar picture inside. Expand Really? That's kinda weird to think about. how there's an image of it, yet it isn't in the dex. ya mind uploading/sourcing the image?
jojo12100 Posted June 9, 2018 Author Posted June 9, 2018 On 6/9/2018 at 6:13 AM, theSLAYER said: Really? That's kinda weird to think about. how there's an image of it, yet it isn't in the dex. ya mind uploading/sourcing the image? Expand Here's the Source Also @StarsMmd found the 21st card data but we're unable to read it for now, is there any e-reader specialist here? card21.binFetching info...
theSLAYER Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 On 6/9/2018 at 9:20 AM, jojo12100 said: Here's the Source Also @StarsMmd found the 21st card data but we're unable to read it for now, is there any e-reader specialist here? card21.binFetching info... Expand On 6/8/2018 at 11:18 PM, jojo12100 said: To all people interested by the GS demo Mobile Trainer ROM has a beta Tyranitar picture inside. Expand This line of yours confused me. Mobile Trainer is actually a separate cart, unrelated to GS or the GS Demo. Granted, they could have done initial testings with GS in mind (hence the old sprites), but it isn't something found in the GS demo per se.
jojo12100 Posted June 9, 2018 Author Posted June 9, 2018 On 6/9/2018 at 9:27 AM, theSLAYER said: This line of yours confused me. Mobile Trainer is actually a separate cart, unrelated to GS or the GS Demo. Granted, they could have done initial testings with GS in mind (hence the old sprites), but it isn't something found in the GS demo per se. Expand Sorry to confused you. Mobile trainer was developped in 1998 a year later after GS demo and it looks like there were changes in some designs inside.
theSLAYER Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 On 6/9/2018 at 9:31 AM, jojo12100 said: Sorry to confused you. Mobile trainer was developped in 1998 a year later after GS demo and it looks like there were changes in some designs inside. Expand Problem is: 1. That particular bulbapedia statement has no sourcing 2. I'm having difficulties finding any of such mentioned "unused sprites" (TCRF has a page for the Mobile Trainer, but no such sprites, Glitchcity has a new page searching for the aforementioned unused sprites, but hasn't found them so far) 3. Googling GB Mobile Trainer Tyranitar gives me a bunch of Pokemon Go hits >< I would certainly like to find these unused sprites, and see any matches the GS demo
jojo12100 Posted June 9, 2018 Author Posted June 9, 2018 On 6/9/2018 at 9:37 AM, theSLAYER said: Problem is: 1. That particular bulbapedia statement has no sourcing 2. I'm having difficulties finding any of such mentioned "unused sprites" (TCRF has a page for the Mobile Trainer, but no such sprites, Glitchcity has a new page searching for the aforementioned unused sprites, but hasn't found them so far) 3. Googling GB Mobile Trainer Tyranitar gives me a bunch of Pokemon Go hits >< I would certainly like to find these unused sprites, and see any matches the GS demo Expand There can be a number 4 some datas were downloaded only like GS ball/Odd Egg but the source says it is in the ROM so I hope they are 1
jojo12100 Posted June 9, 2018 Author Posted June 9, 2018 Found most of them in the ROM as expected except Porygon2 (why????). Unable to dump them for the moment so I did screeshoots. Edt: Found my beloved P2 ^^ 3
jojo12100 Posted June 9, 2018 Author Posted June 9, 2018 Can someone help me to find the equivalent of RAM $D116 in Gold/Silver demo in order to catch the trainers Pokemon? Thanks in advance ^^
BlackShark Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 On 6/9/2018 at 9:24 PM, jojo12100 said: Can someone help me to find the equivalent of RAM $D116 in Gold/Silver demo in order to catch the trainers Pokemon? Expand Can you show me the full code to catch trainer Pokemon?
jojo12100 Posted June 10, 2018 Author Posted June 10, 2018 On 6/10/2018 at 2:54 PM, BlackShark said: Can you show me the full code to catch trainer Pokemon? Expand 010116D1 in japanese gold 1
SwagKey Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 Found more "demo shinies" in my free time. For some reason a few of my caught Pokemon got corrupted nicknames, including the Rattata above. I just unchecked the nickname value in PKHeX before extracting. 016 - ポッポ - 63E0.pk1Fetching info... 019 - コラッタ - 2A56.pk1Fetching info...
jojo12100 Posted June 12, 2018 Author Posted June 12, 2018 On 6/12/2018 at 7:05 PM, SwagKey said: Found more "demo shinies" in my free time. For some reason a few of my caught Pokemon got corrupted nicknames, including the Rattata above. I just unchecked the nickname value in PKHeX before extracting. 016 - ポッポ - 63E0.pk1Fetching info... 019 - コラッタ - 2A56.pk1Fetching info... Expand I encountered that problem too when I caught more than 10 Pokemon. It's a corruption of nicknames in the PC due to technical limitations (the one they mentionned in USUM). Note that you can transfer you Girafarig datas as I did for other Pokemon I uploaded here but I'll surely not remain shiny. Also if you have time maybe you can help me to find how to catch trainers Pokemon we need the RAM offset location of battle.
jojo12100 Posted June 13, 2018 Author Posted June 13, 2018 Finally got them, that was hard because of custom moveset, bug in the attacks (which I think occurs with wild Pokemon too) ... RAM adress CE00 035 - ピッピ - 1334.pk2Fetching info... 165 - レディバ - 8258.pk2Fetching info... 240 - ブビィ - 07AE.pk2Fetching info... 052 - ニャース - 22EB.pk2Fetching info... 046 - パラス - 0A55.pk2Fetching info... 039 - プリン - 51A0.pk2Fetching info... 211 - ハリーセン - 0231.pk2Fetching info... 043 - ナゾノクサ - CE24.pk2Fetching info... 048 - コンパン - 736C.pk2Fetching info... 232 - ドンファン - 247A.pk2Fetching info... 165 - レディバ - 3DB4.pk2Fetching info... Next quest: Force-load the 21st card. Off topic: anyone has a legal shiny Oranguru to trade me? Edit: Forgot the Slowking ^^ 199 - ヤドキング - 4A7B.pk2Fetching info...
SwagKey Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 On 6/12/2018 at 7:15 PM, jojo12100 said: Note that you can transfer you Girafarig datas as I did for other Pokemon I uploaded here but I'll surely not remain shiny. Expand Even if I could extract it, it would be completely useless unless we can inject into the demo's save file and load it. Different internal IDs means it's incompatible with the final GSC. I know these Pokemon won't remain shiny if traded to the final version, which is why I'm calling them "demo shinies" to differentiate them for the final. Consequently, this can make some traded Pokemon from Gen 1 "demo shiny" but not "final" shiny in the retail games.
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