PCNY Distribution Machine Savefiles

28 minutes ago, MetaleroSmith said:

A question, these sav that you came up with the event pokemon, are they legitimate ?, that is, have you rescued them from an old game or how did you get them ?, since for example, Gold Ursaring saved his game and was able to share his pokemon with us of event, but what you have uploaded seems more done in pkhex or not, please clarify that doubt, I like to collect these event pokemon, but clearly I need to know if they are legitimate. thanks.

3 hours ago, Gridelin said:

si vi esta foto, pero he visto el sav que has subido y hay muchos pokemon de eventos, hasta los huevos, lo cual seria raro porque han pasado mas de 20 años y seria casi imposible tenerlos aun en forma de huevo, ¿como obtuviste estos pokemon de evento? podrias explicarmelo de una manera mas facil? lei tu post pero no entendi bien. 

10 hours ago, MetaleroSmith said:

si vi esta foto, pero he visto el sav que has subido y hay muchos pokemon de eventos, hasta los huevos, lo cual seria raro porque han pasado mas de 20 años y seria casi imposible tenerlos aun en forma de huevo, ¿como obtuviste estos pokemon de evento? podrias explicarmelo de una manera mas facil? lei tu post pero no entendi bien. 

The main post answers all of your questions, but if English is not your native language I can understand if there is confusion. I will try to clarify. These pokemon are legitimate, not hacks made in PKHeX. The photo was provided for that reason to provide proof. That photo is of one of the original machines used to distribute at the Pokemon Center New York. The machine recently showed up, and now ProjectPokemon owns it and is able to distribute these old pokemon with it. Let me know if you still need any clarification.

I vaguely recall hearing that some PCNY pokemon ended up getting lost because someone's girlfriend accidently deleted some data off of one of the original memory cards. Were you folk able to recover them? Is this PCNY collection complete, or will it always be missing a few Pokemon?

Hace 3 horas, Deoxyz dijo:

La publicación principal responde a todas sus preguntas, pero si el inglés no es su idioma nativo, puedo entender si hay confusión. Trataré de aclararlo. Estos pokemon son legítimos, no son hacks hechos en PKHeX. La foto se proporcionó por ese motivo para proporcionar pruebas. Esa foto es de una de las máquinas originales utilizadas para distribuir en el Pokemon Center de Nueva York. La máquina apareció recientemente, y ahora ProjectPokemon la posee y puede distribuir estos viejos Pokémon con ella. Avíseme si aún necesita alguna aclaración.

ohh, entiendo, entonces esos pokemon en el sav que publicaste son, en teoria, nuevos, porque recien han sido repartidos a traves de la maquina, no son pokemon rescatados de antiguos cartuchos sino son reparticiones actuales con una maquina usada hace como 20 años, muchas gracias, esto es una gran noticia. Sin embargo, estos pokemon no son de reparticiones oficiales, cierto? es decir, que no son pokemon rescatados de las reparticiones que se hicieron en aquellos años, sino que son nuevos, uhmm, quiza por esa razón perderia algo de legitimidad pues mas valdría los pokemon repartidos oficialmente en su momento, que los repartidos actualmente de manera no oficial, aunque se tenga la maquina original. esta reparticion no la hizo Nintendo ni Gamefreak ni The Pokemon Company, sino una comunidad de fans. igualmente es genial poder obtener estos pokemon, aunque no sea de manera oficial.

6 minutes ago, DestroyMagnet said:

I vaguely recall hearing that some PCNY pokemon ended up getting lost because someone's girlfriend accidently deleted some data off of one of the original memory cards. Were you folk able to recover them? Is this PCNY collection complete, or will it always be missing a few Pokemon?

One of the Slot A memory cards we obtained had a date range (3 Jan 2003 - 30 Jan 2003) written on the label that corresponds with the following four Gen 2 campaigns:

When data is deleted from a memory card, it still remains hidden in the raw data until it is overwritten by new  save data. That is the ONLY reason @Gridelin was able to recover Evolution Stone, Monster Week 1, and the Gen 2 campaigns from one of the other Slot A memory cards. Unfortunately for the memory card the original owner's ex gf overwrote, the save data for Phantasy Star was large enough to completely wipe over the raw remnant data of whatever was on that particular memory card, presumably what was on the label. So that is lost forever, unless the same memory card used at one of the other three kiosks turns up. That is why we have two memory cards that contain Campaigns 3, 4, 5, and 6 consecutively, and two memory cards that contain Campaign 1. They were from different kiosk stations (PCNYa/b/c/d). The rest of the campaigns were remnant deleted data from these cards.
With the PCNY campaigns we do have, yes we have all the pokemon within those campaigns. Though we are still missing many of the other campaigns that were not on these memory cards.

6 minutes ago, MetaleroSmith said:

ohh, entiendo, entonces esos pokemon en el sav que publicaste son, en teoria, nuevos, porque recien han sido repartidos a traves de la maquina, no son pokemon rescatados de antiguos cartuchos sino son reparticiones actuales con una maquina usada hace como 20 años, muchas gracias, esto es una gran noticia. Sin embargo, estos pokemon no son de reparticiones oficiales, cierto? es decir, que no son pokemon rescatados de las reparticiones que se hicieron en aquellos años, sino que son nuevos, uhmm, quiza por esa razón perderia algo de legitimidad pues mas valdría los pokemon repartidos oficialmente en su momento, que los repartidos actualmente de manera no oficial, aunque se tenga la maquina original. esta reparticion no la hizo Nintendo ni Gamefreak ni The Pokemon Company, sino una comunidad de fans. igualmente es genial poder obtener estos pokemon, aunque no sea de manera oficial.

Depends how you look at legitimacy. Some communities only allow "originals from that physical event and distribution period". That is not what these are.

5 hours ago, MetaleroSmith said:

ohh, entiendo, entonces esos pokemon en el sav que publicaste son, en teoria, nuevos, porque recien han sido repartidos a traves de la maquina, no son pokemon rescatados de antiguos cartuchos sino son reparticiones actuales con una maquina usada hace como 20 años, muchas gracias, esto es una gran noticia. Sin embargo, estos pokemon no son de reparticiones oficiales, cierto? es decir, que no son pokemon rescatados de las reparticiones que se hicieron en aquellos años, sino que son nuevos, uhmm, quiza por esa razón perderia algo de legitimidad pues mas valdría los pokemon repartidos oficialmente en su momento, que los repartidos actualmente de manera no oficial, aunque se tenga la maquina original. esta reparticion no la hizo Nintendo ni Gamefreak ni The Pokemon Company, sino una comunidad de fans. igualmente es genial poder obtener estos pokemon, aunque no sea de manera oficial.

Yeah, that varies from person to person depending on personal perspective.  If you only acknowledge legitimacy as events that come from the original distribution period, then it's understandable if these are not for everyone.

Personally, for me the only reason it matters in this case is the incrementing TIDs, as these are all low number and consecutive, which we will inevitably have lots of now. Those from the original period would surface online with random TIDs and show their place in history, even though we know of instances the machines were reset during some campaigns during the original period. So I do understand it in that aspect. If it weren't for the unique TIDs, it would not matter at all to me, just as distributing with the 10ANNIV software outside of the original distribution period. It doesn't make a difference to me, and I don't agree with terms like "replica". The software is official and untouched, we didn't rebuild it to distribute pokemon with identical results.

Though yeah, that's a decision for each person to make for themselves. If it were easy to obtain more original period PCNYs, then it'd be different. However they are very hard to find and sold at artificial asinine prices, so at that point it is ludicrous and I could care less if we are distributing them again in modern day with the original hardware.

On 3/15/2020 at 12:44 PM, Deoxyz said:

One of the Slot A memory cards we obtained had a date range (3 Jan 2003 - 30 Jan 2003) written on the label that corresponds with the following four Gen 2 campaigns:

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When data is deleted from a memory card, it still remains hidden in the raw data until it is overwritten by new  save data. That is the ONLY reason @Gridelin was able to recover Evolution Stone, Monster Week 1, and the Gen 2 campaigns from one of the other Slot A memory cards. Unfortunately for the memory card the original owner's ex gf overwrote, the save data for Phantasy Star was large enough to completely wipe over the raw remnant data of whatever was on that particular memory card, presumably what was on the label. So that is lost forever, unless the same memory card used at one of the other three kiosks turns up. That is why we have two memory cards that contain Campaigns 3, 4, 5, and 6 consecutively, and two memory cards that contain Campaign 1. They were from different kiosk stations (PCNYa/b/c/d). The rest of the campaigns were remnant deleted data from these cards.
With the PCNY campaigns we do have, yes we have all the pokemon within those campaigns. Though we are still missing many of the other campaigns that were not on these memory cards.

Thanks for explaining. Just for clarification’s sake, what campaigns are still missing in this PCNY collection? Hopefully, more memory cards turn up.

@DestroyMagnet

Bulbapedia has all Gen 2 PCNY campaigns documented, which if I recall correctly was taken from the old official PCNY website which would post about the events weekly.

There is a lot we do not have: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Gotta_Catch_'Em_All_event_Pokémon#Distribution_weeks

For Gen 3, Bulbapedia does not have all PCNY campaigns documented, only those which we have had pk3 samples surface of. The documentation is weak and pieced together as information turns up, as I don't think the offical PCNY website recorded any from this generation.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_PCNY_event_Pokémon_distributions_in_Generation_III

So is Bulbapedia's information incorrect about the eggs hatching with the OT and ID No. of the hatcher? The eggs in the pk2 files all have a set OT and ID No.

The Bulbapedia page in question: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Gotta_Catch_'Em_All_event_Pokémon#Distribution_weeks

Depends on the event and whether the egg was hatched.

And there is no way to have the pokemon from Gen 1 and 2 on others game right? so we can have that pokemon on bank/home in a "legal" form, because that games cant connect with Gen 3 +

59 minutes ago, Sirk said:

And there is no way to have the pokemon from Gen 1 and 2 on others game right? so we can have that pokemon on bank/home in a "legal" form, because that games cant connect with Gen 3 +

Yup, the PCNY events can only be received on carts, and as we know, there's no official way to transfer the save from cart to VC.

It is possible to transfer the save to VC, but it isn't via official means.

YO! I just found out about these today and man it's so insane I absolutely love this! I has made me just as happy as the Space World Demo with all those gen 2 Betas. The event for this is cool the animations have the same models as the ones from Stadium and I'm a massive fan of those! Absolutely love this

It has been a long time since any information has been published regarding this project, are there any plans to publish the original files for preservation and study?

5 hours ago, aire said:

It has been a long time since any information has been published regarding this project, are there any plans to publish the original files for preservation and study?

"original files". like the ROM?

Asking for ROMs is against our rules.

The original hardware is still being studied, and I doubt we'll hear anything else about it until a breakthrough comes along.

@ZoroCooKings_YT Reviews aren't places for you to ask questions, I'll be deleting it.
 

If the mon is from Gen 2, don't transfer it to HOME.
If the mon is from Gen 3, you can transfer it to HOME. PKHeX flags the PID and stuff cause the event isn't well documented, in regards to the generation algorithm and all, but since you know it's from the machine, it's good enough to be used. HOME doesn't care for the most part.

hola, disculpa deoxys disculpa no esta mewtwo?

hi deoxys, excusme, mewtwo isnt ?