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みなさん、こんにちは。
これらのイベントポケモンについて何か知っていれば、このリサーチに参加してください。 できるだけ多くの情報を収集したいと思います。
よろしくねおねがいします。

 

Also hello to everyone else.
I want to collect information and media about Japanese about Gen 1 & Gen 2 Event Pokemon in this Thread.

Let's make this become the biggest data base about historic Japanese Event Pokemon. 



Gen 1

幻のポケモンプレゼント - "Legendary Pokémon Offer"

Mew shown in the CoroCoro Reveal:
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ミュウ :L5
Moves: Unknown

おや/ ゲーフリ
IDNo
/ Random
(Likely ingame generated.)




Appearently distributed at the Event: (Needs to be confirmed!)
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ミュウ :L5
Moves: Pound

おや/ コロコロ
IDNo/ 00000-65535 (20 were Distributed.)

コロコロコミック May 1996
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Source: http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/features/pokemon_in_1996.html


幻のポケモンプレゼント - "Legendary Pokémon Offer" (2nd CoroCoro Distribution)
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ミュウ  L: 5
Moves: Pound

おや/コロコロ
IDNo/ 00000-65535 (100 were distributed.)

コロコロコミック August 1996
MISSING

 

ミュウプレゼント -第4回次世代ワールドホビーフェア- - "Mew Present" 
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ミュウ  L: 5
Moves: Pound

おや/ トウキョー
IDNo 00000-65535


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Source: http://blog.goo.ne.jp/anidan/e/bcd6297901fb47ac637af44590de93aa

 

なみのりピカチュウプレゼント - "Surfing Pikachu Present"
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ピカチュウ  L: 5
Moves: ThunderShock - Growl - Surf

おや/  ニンテン
Trainer ID: 00000-65535 (10000 were distributed.)

Official Flyer

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Source: http://blog.livedoor.jp/tohopoke/archives/46938772.html

From a Blog Entry of a participant

Spoiler

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   nami3.jpg 
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Source: http://dorao.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2010-11-15

 


20周年ありがとうコロコロ
ポケモン「ミュウ」プレゼント
(3rd CoroCoro Distribution)

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ミュウ  L: 5
Moves: Pound

おや/  コロコロ
IDNo 00000-65535 (10 were distributed.)


コロコロコミック June 1997

 



ミュウプレゼント - 任天堂スペースワールド1997
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ミュウ  L: 5
Moves: Pound

おや/  マリオ(?) - ルイージ - ピーチ(?) - ヨッシー - クッパ(?)
Trainer ID: 00000-65535 (100000 were distributed.)

Official Flyer
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Source: http://na2ka4.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-2680.html?sp
 

 

コロコロコミック October 1997

 


Pokemon Shock! - Special Report (1997) - YouTube Video

Spoiler

 


 

 

コロコロコピカチュウ - "CoroCoro Pikachu"
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ピカチュウ  L: 5
Moves: ThunderShock - Growl - Surf

おや/  ???
IDNo 00000-65535(?)

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ピカチュウ  L: 5
Moves: ThunderShock - Growl - Fly

おや/ ???
IDNo 00000-65535(?)

コロコロコミック April 1998


コロコロコミック May 1998

 

 


ミュウプレゼント - "Mew Present" 第7回次世代ワールドホビーフェア
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ミュウ  L: 5
Moves: Pound

おや/  フクオカ - トウキョー - オーサカ - サッポロ(?) - ナゴヤ
IDNo 00000-65535

 


タマムシ大学博士試験 - "Tamamushi University Hyper Test"
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コイキング L:5(?)
Moves: Splash - Dragon Rage(?)
おや/  Unknown
IDNo Unknown

Spoiler

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ポケモンバトルツアー'98夏 - "Summer 1998 Pokémon Battle Tour"
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ピカチュウ  L: 5
Moves: ThunderShock - Growl - Surf
おや/  イマクニ
IDNo Unknown



ポケモンスタンプコンプリート - "Pokemon Stamp Complete"
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オニドリル  L: ?
Moves: PayDay ?
おや/ Unknown
IDNo Unknown


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ギャロップ  L: ?
Moves: PayDay ?
おや/ Unknown
IDNo Unknown


コロコロコミック September 1998

 

 

 

ミュウプレゼント - 任天堂スペースワールド1999
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ミュウ  L: 5
Moves: Pound

おや/  マクハリ
IDNo 00000-65535

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Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20000901092347/http://www.eagb.net/gameboy/special_space_world99_03.htm

 

 


Gen 2


セレビィプレゼント - 任天堂スペースワールド2000
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セレビィ  L: 5
Moves: Leech Seed - Confusion - Heal Bell - Recover

おや/ スペース - ワールド
IDNo 00000-65535


コロコロコミック July 2000

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Source: http://www.zoidsland.com/1rebyu-/koro-00-7b.htm



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Source: http://www.ign.com/articles/2000/09/01/getting-serebii

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Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20010209003045/http://www.eagb.net:80/gameboy/space_world_2k03.htm



小学館の学年誌・コロコロコミックなど
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セレビィ  L: 5(?)
Moves: Leech Seed - Confusion - Heal Bell - Recover(?)

おや/ Unknown
Trainer ID: 00000-65535(?)

 

第13回次世代ワールドホビーフェア
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セレビィ  L: 5
Moves: Leech Seed - Confusion - Heal Bell - Recover

おや/ トウキョー - フクオカ - オーサカ - ナゴヤ?
IDNo 00000-65535

コロコロコミック December 2000







 Mobile Events - GSボール & タマゴけん

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Source: https://www65.atwiki.jp/gagagakaizou/pages/77.html
 

コロコロコミック August 2001





YouTube Video of Háčky emulating Pokemon News (Part of the GS Ball Event) using Debug News:

Spoiler

 

 

YouTube Video of Háčky emulating the Egg Ticket Event:

Spoiler

 

 

 

「ポケモンのナゾのタマゴ」プレゼント - "Odd Pokemon Egg" Present

コロコロコミック January 2001





Links
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/nom/0006/02/y1996.html




Notes

About this project:
Key goal is to have a place where all information comes together.
I wish to be be able to not only gather information but maybe also be able to research files if it's possible.
So I wanted to create this Thread as a platform and invite everyone who is interested in this or even went to these Events.
I wrote the introduction in Japanese for a reason, because I think it would be helpful to have more Japanese user on board.
Without them we ain't go anywhere...

Don't use these information to hack your own Event Pokemon:
But if you do so at least keep them for yourself. I know many of you would like to have at least reconstructed Events if they can't get the real ones...
The thing is just we can't make accurate reconstructions without having an actual legit Event Pokemon. 
So in order to generate legal Japanese Gen 1 or Gen 2 Event Pokemon we need real ones.

About the IDs:
ID numbers for these Events were meant to be like serial numbers, the IDs are imcrementing by +1. This means that the ID# of the very first person who downloaded an Event had the ID 00000, the 2nd one 00001... the 3rd one 00002... the next one 00003 ect. ect... very simple, straight forward and easy to understand...

However... this doesn't necessarily means that the ID numbers for a distribution with low numbers like the CoroCoro are predictable. Because it depends wether that distribution software was entirely used for the Distribution and not apart from that, like for testing purposes or journalism. We can see in some CoroCoro Scans that this was actually the case. So the first Distribution had 20 Distributions, the second had 100 which would mean the current ID number after the 2nd Distribution would have been at 00119. But at the announcement for the 3rd Distribution we can see a Screenshot of a CoroCoro Mew with the ID 00128. And even the Distribution was for just 10 Mews, in the Space World 1997 Preview there's another Screenshot with the ID number at 00250...     

The case is even more complicated when it comes to public Events, because the IDs are tied to the Event machines.
I have read on a website that Nintendo Space World 1999 had about 20 Event machines. I'm not sure how many visitors it had who downloaded Mews but in any case the numbers were unlikely this high... but most of what I saw was in then 5 digit range... 

IVs:
This has yet to be confirmed but it looks like IVs are fix in Gen 1 Events.  The case looks different in Gen 2 where the IVs seem to be randomly generated. How they're generated is unknown but it could be similar to Ingame Pokemon. 

Hidden Details:
And this is the reason why I need files.
Yes, even in Gen 1 there are hidden details in form of Trash Bytes.
This can't be visibly seen ingame, but is an important detail for separating between a legal Event Pokemon and a hack. 
 






 


To be continued...

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Thank you so much! Your information is invaluable to my research! Thank you!

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I appreciate you attempting to collect all known information for this thread. It's always been very hard to find information on Japanese Gen 1 and Gen 2 events. Bulbapedia has very bare and incomplete info, but understandably so.

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For the University Magikarp, I believe it to be likely that its ID was incremented, as only 20 were distributed. For the OT there is a chance that it could either be named 大学 (University) or what Shogakukan is in japanese.

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1 minute ago, 25000 said:

For the University Magikarp, I believe it to be likely that its ID was incremented, as only 20 were distributed. For the OT there is a chance that it could either be named 大学 (University) or what Shogakukan is in japanese.

What do you guys mean by Incremented ID's?

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1 minute ago, HaxAras said:

What do you guys mean by Incremented ID's?

When an event has a small distribution size they would usually increment the IDs between 2 numbers. Lets say there were 80 mew distributed. If i was the 60th person to get a mew my mew's ID would be 00060

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3 minutes ago, 25000 said:

When an event has a small distribution size they would usually increment the IDs between 2 numbers. Lets say there were 80 mew distributed. If i was the 60th person to get a mew my mew's ID would be 00060

So do you think the university Magikarp have ID's between 1-20?

Are there not any current Japanese Pokemon communities like PPorg or Bulbapedia? Do we not know any collectors in Japan who might be able to help?

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Just now, HaxAras said:

Are there not any current Japanese Pokemon communities like PPorg or Bulbapedia? Do we not know any collectors in Japan who might be able to help?

See, here is the problem, most of the people that got this pokemon are probably old and have sold their pokemon games. In addition, the save batteries dry out and the save is deleted. Due to the dist size of 20, most, if not all, of their cart's save files are gone forever.

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1 minute ago, 25000 said:

See, here is the problem, most of the people that got this pokemon are probably old and have sold their pokemon games. In addition, the save batteries dry out and the save is deleted. Due to the dist size of 20, most, if not all, of their cart's save files are gone forever.

I had (English) gen 1 save files as recently as last year, during the Pokemon Go craze that still had working batteries. I think gen 1 lasts a lot longer than gen 2. There's also Pokemon Stadium backups and we've also managed to back up and preserve a few of our saves. It still boggles my mind how we haven't found any Japanese collectors with info and nobody seems to know any Japanese fan sites. I had a Japanese friend on Serebii last year and I'm pretty sure he mentioned they had sites that were better or similar to Serebii and Bulbapedia. 

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My farfetch'd (illogical) hope in the past was when occasionally buying Japanese carts on eBay, that I may one day find an original event pokemon. I still guess it's possible, but not too likely. Especially the rarer events. At least Gen I carts often still save. I wouldn't bother with Gen II since the RTC drained those batteries like nothing, so the chances of finding a cart still possessing an original savefile containing an event is basically zero.

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Just now, HaxAras said:

I had (English) gen 1 save files as recently as last year, during the Pokemon Go craze that still had working batteries. I think gen 1 lasts a lot longer than gen 2. There's also Pokemon Stadium backups and we've also managed to back up and preserve a few of our saves. It still boggles my mind how we haven't found any Japanese collectors with info and nobody seems to know any Japanese fan sites. I had a Japanese friend on Serebii last year and I'm pretty sure he mentioned they had sites that were better or similar to Serebii and Bulbapedia. 

I doubt their sites have any info on this Magikarp. We are lucky to know the details for the Legendary Pokemon Offer Mew 1st and 2nd distributions.

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9 minutes ago, Deoxyz said:

My dux (illogical) hope in the past was when occasionally buying Japanese carts on eBay, that I may one day find an original event pokemon. I still guess it's possible, but not too likely. Especially the rarer events. At least Gen I carts often still save. I wouldn't bother with Gen II since the RTC drained those batteries like nothing, so the chances of finding a cart still possessing an original savefile containing an event is basically zero.

My friend bought a Fire Red cart with a bunch of Japanese gen 3 event Pokémon that I donated to the gen 3 preservation project.

A while back, I bought 12 different gen 3 carts and the most interesting things I found were some shiny Pokémon.

 

Our best bet (Besides old magezines) is to find blog posts or Japanese fan sites. Though YouTube videos help as well. Since it was only semi recently discovered that the Marine ribbon was given to Japanese tournament winners in gen 3. 

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1 hour ago, HaxAras said:

Since it was only semi recently discovered that the Marine ribbon was given to Japanese tournament winners in gen 3. 


That's a thing!?
I never knew it was given out. Hot damn.

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55 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:


That's a thing!?
I never knew it was given out. Hot damn.

(Sorry this post is off topic. I don't like making claims I can't back up with proof.)

 

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Don't raise your hopes yet but there is something interesting that could theoretically help to actually reconstruct some of these Events...
I think this let's just call it "Event machine" was nothing but a modified Super Nintendo with a Super Game Boy 2 (linking functionality) with a modified Blue rom. 
At least this is how we can imagine it... And what you see on the Screen is actually what happens inside that game.

If that's true I have a theory about these random IDs...
During some random research I did notice that ingame trades had random IDs too.
So I started to find out what's exactly happening during an ingame trade and here is what I noticed...
The ID is generated right when you start the trade by the DSum just like a normal Trainer ID would be generated.
Then after countless frames later when the trade ends the IVs are generated randomly based on DSum as well...

Interesting fact... since the generation is forced by an A Button press and the DSum runs all the time any ID combination is possible 00000-65535.
And yes so is every IV combination possible, which means every combination from 0x0000 to 0xFFFF...
But because they are generated one after another there is a connection between these two, so not every combination of IDs and IVs is exactly legal.
Which are legal, I have no idea. For this we would have to determine the exact frames between the TID and the IV calls and then simulate the whole process and see the combinations we get.
That's for ingame trades but what if the "Even Machine" worked exactly the same as ingame trade?

If my theory is correct there would still be some issues however.
Questions like... was the timing identical to an ingame trade? (Informations about what happened exactly on the Screen would be helpful.)
Then I don't know where the OT Name fits in... Was it fix per machine?
Also... what about Trash Bytes? And I wonder if a shiny lock was already invented.

Btw... here is something else I noticed...
Take a look at Mew Sprite in this picture:
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This isn't the Mew Sprite from Blue in case you didn't noticed it yet.
It looks more similar to the Mew Sprite from Gold:
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Edit:
Damn... I just saw this Thread...

A half trade... sounds interesting!

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Not quite simply a non-colored version, the head and eyes are both noticeably more rounded. But still obviously an early version of the Gold sprite.

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Speaking of that, we know the most obvious internals of the Mew/Celebi machines is likely a Super Nintendo/Famicom(see controller, SGB border), with a Super Game Boy 2(see border, and apparent link cable use), which contains the actual distribution cart. Which all apparently connects to a GameBoy on the end you'd stick your personal cart, as in one photo you can see what looks to be a GBP/GBC. What I don't understand is how carts were inserted and removed without the GameBoy needing to be shut on and off each time, since there's no multiboot function.

I know it's impossible to say for sure, but I was always interested in theorizing exactly how these worked.

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Yeah, you're right, it looks a little bit different.
The coloring is also different because it's on the Super Game Boy, while the Sprite I posted is the Game Boy Color version. 

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I don't think the GB has to be reset to write to the cart. For all the GB figures, the cart was never removed! Or it's set up to soft reset each time and reinitialize the slave rom.

Regarding randomization, that is not the issue. The question is about OTN and moves.

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I am certain (93%) that these are the details for the University Magikarp

Level: 5

ID 00001-00020

OT: タマムシ

Attacks: Dragon Rage

タマムシ is Celadon in Japanese and the "University" that the event is based off of happens to be in Celadon City (Anime)

There is a 5 letter character limit in the original games so this meets that criteria. All of the symbols in タマムシ are in the original games as well.

タマムシ大学 is Celadon University but that is 6 characters and the last 2 characters dont exist in the games.

The characters for Shogakukan, the company that showed the event in their magazines, dont exist in the game either.

 

 

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Pokemon Stamp Complete Info

Rapidash Lv 40

ID: 00001-00020 (Based on low amount of distributed Pokemon from the Stamp Giveaways of Gen 3 and the fact that most magazines give away very low amounts of pokemon anyways. Its also worth noting that Shogakukan also hosted this event as well. Their Magikarp only had 20 distributions.)

OT: スタンプ (Stamp)

Moves: Pay Day

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Fearow Lv 40

ID: 00001-00020 (Read Rapidash's ID)

OT: スタンプ (Stamp)

Moves: Pay Day

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"This Pichu was distributed to players who entered in a contest inside the October–December 2003 issue of the Pokémon Ruby & Sapphire stamp Contests & Gym Leader sheet (Japanese: ポケモンスタンプ ルビー&サファイア コンテスト&ジムリーダーシート) magazine. A total of 50 players were selected." -Bulbapedia

The above quote was taken from Bulbapedia on the Stamp Distributions of 2003. "contest inside the October–December 2003 issue of the Pokémon Ruby & Sapphire stamp Contests & Gym Leader sheet" Guess who published that? Shogakukan.

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11 minutes ago, Sabresite said:

I wonder if the DVs are fixed or randomly generated when they were given out.

probably random.

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