research Gen 3 Event Generation Algorithm Research (10ANNIV, etc)

[Invader TAK]

Just now, pMD said:

Devaluation? No.

There will be people though who will inject the rom into dev cartridges and try to sell these carts as official distribution carts.

You say that like that hasn't happened in the past.

[Guest]

But every distribution cartridge that pops up on eBay are already fakes, so what's the difference?
 

Everything about this I've already said in this thread in previous posts, so I'll just refer back to them.

[pMD]

Let's just hope this thread will get much exposure so people will be aware of the scene release.

@Deoxyz, you may want to upload the rom on popular rom hosting sites, so more people will have access to it.

[pMD]

Nintendo dev/prototype cartridge market is pretty big in forums for collectors and most of them have the tools in order to inject roms into the cartridges. So, by having the rom available online, it should be pretty easy for some of them to try and sell more fake distribution cartridges to people who have no idea about the scene release of the gba distribution rom(s).

[Deoxyz]

5 minutes ago, pMD said:

Let's just hope this thread will get much exposure so people will be aware of the scene release.

@Deoxyz, you may want to upload the rom on popular rom hosting sites, so more people will have access to it.

I was originally going to upload it on emuparadise, but when I made an account, it was all clustercrap and I couldn't figure it out.

Is there a main place where all/many distribution roms are available? When I looked for DS distro roms a year or two ago, it was a scavenger hunt with a few roms here and there in obscure places.

12 minutes ago, pMD said:

Devaluation? No.

There will be people though who will inject the rom into dev cartridges and try to sell these carts as official distribution carts.

Just like with the Mew save, hopefully we can make it become fairly well known, so people will be aware it is public and can be cautious. At the same time, if we see an increase in 10ANNIV carts on eBay, it'll eventually suffer like the Mystery Mew carts have done. Though it seems like it would be just as much of a risk as flashing new roms onto DS carts.

[HaxAras]

3 minutes ago, pMD said:

Nintendo dev/prototype cartridge market is pretty big in forums for collectors and most of them have the tools in order to inject roms into the cartridges. So, by having the rom available online, it should be pretty easy for some of them to try and sell more fake distribution cartridges to people who have no idea about the scene release of the gba distribution rom(s).

Outlandish claims should really be backed up with proof. I have reason to believe that altering these carts is harder than you think. Like we said before. It's the responsibility of the people buying these carts to know what they're buying. It's 2016, these should have been released a long time ago and it's just halting progress when you don't.

With ajxpk wanting to research trash bytes and people talking about creating distribution tools. I think somebody said something about using Triggers PC as a distribution method for example. 

It would also be completely unbelievable if now that the cart has been dumped, 2 dozen distro carts suddenly showed up on Ebay. 

14 minutes ago, ajxpk said:

I actually don't really see any devaluation.
A cartridge is a cartridge and dumped ROM is a dumped ROM.
It's just my opinion. But I believe collectors would still pay a lot to have the real cartridge.
At least that's what I believe... Everything else regarding this is already said I think.
I'm actually happy that this finally happened.

Me, being one of those collectors. They hold just as much value as they ever have. 

6 minutes ago, Deoxyz said:

Is there a main place where all/many distribution roms are available? When I looked for DS distro roms a year or two ago, it was a scavenger hunt with a few roms here and there in obscure places.

You wouldn't happen to have any of those, would you? I've only managed to find 2 and currently can't dump my own. A PM with links would be greatly appreciated it you'd be willing/able to help. 

[theSLAYER]

This doesn't distribute to non-english (including german)?

I remembered it supposed to be european territories,but I guess I remembered it wrongly

[Invader TAK]

2 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

This doesn't distribute to non-english (including german)?

I remembered it supposed to be european territories,but I guess I remembered it wrongly

This was the UK 10th Anniversary distro, but I'll check one of my Japanese carts. I'll edit in the result.

EDIT: Nope. English-only.

Edited December 24, 2016 by Invader TAK

[pMD]

Flashing GBA roms into dev/prototype cartridges is as easy as one, two, three... especially when we are talking about collectors and people who know what to do. The easier the access to rare roms, the higher the chances of someone taking advantage of them in order to make money if the scene release of the rom does not get much exposure.

Also, you don't even need to have any tool in order to flash roms into dev/prototype carts. You could just spend ~$20 to get a cheap prototype cartridge and after you get the link protocol, you can have it implemented into a custom or a commercial gba flashcard which could be used for flashing the roms. There was a whole market for the protocol many years ago but it got shut down, possibly by Nintendo.

I think I've made my point of view clear before. There is no need for me to repeat myself.

 

[Deoxyz]

1 minute ago, theSLAYER said:

This doesn't distribute to non-english (including german)?

I remembered it supposed to be european territories,but I guess I remembered it wrongly

The guy I purchased it from has all the European language carts for 10ANNIV, plus the English Aurora Ticket(I'll have it soon), and a bit of others he couldn't talk about due to legal reasons.

I don't think he has any duplicates of the other languages, and I doubt he'd give me the roms.

[theSLAYER]

Just now, Deoxyz said:

The guy I purchased it from has all the European language carts for 10ANNIV, plus the English Aurora Ticket(I'll have it soon), and a bit of others he couldn't talk about due to legal reasons.

I don't think he has any duplicates of the other languages, and I doubt he'd give me the roms.

as long as you verified it's the real deal, then its no biggie.

Having one is better than none, I guess I misunderstood the nature of the event.

Like, "a rom that distributes to all languages. imagine queuing up, then they tell you you're at the wrong line, cause wrong language"

[Deoxyz]

2 minutes ago, pMD said:

Flashing GBA roms into dev/prototype cartridges is as easy as one, two, three... especially when we are talking about collectors and people who know what to do. The easier the access to rare roms, the higher the chances of someone taking advantage of them in order to make money if the scene release of the rom does not get much exposure.

Also, you don't even need to have any tool in order to flash roms into dev/prototype carts. You could just spend ~$20 to get a cheap prototype cartridge and after you get the link protocol, you can have it implemented into a custom or a commercial gba flashcard which could be used for flashing the roms. There was a whole market for the protocol many years ago but it got shut down, possibly by Nintendo.

I think I've made my point of view clear before. There is no need for me to repeat myself.

 

I don't have much knowledge of these dev carts, but assuming the labels vary or aren't even on some these carts, wouldn't it be easier to spot a fake GBA distro cart if they don't have the DIP switch label on the cart? With a bit of public images, assuming the labels vary, that could clear up any legitimacy confusion someone could have about potential counterfeits.

[theSLAYER]

1 minute ago, Deoxyz said:

I don't have much knowledge of these dev carts, but assuming the labels vary or aren't even on some these carts, wouldn't it be easier to spot a fake GBA distro cart if they don't have the DIP switch label on the cart? With a bit of public images, assuming the labels vary, that could clear up any legitimacy confusion someone could have about potential counterfeits.

by the way, did it come with a save file? emulators aren't creating one for it.

[Invader TAK]

6 minutes ago, Deoxyz said:

The guy I purchased it from has all the European language carts for 10ANNIV, plus the English Aurora Ticket(I'll have it soon), and a bit of others he couldn't talk about due to legal reasons.

I don't think he has any duplicates of the other languages, and I doubt he'd give me the roms.

I'd love to have that Aurora Ticket ROM.

Edited December 24, 2016 by Invader TAK

[Guest]

GBATA tells me Save Type is None, so I don't think it has any save files.

[pMD]

1 minute ago, Deoxyz said:

I don't have much knowledge of these dev carts, but assuming the labels vary or aren't even on some these carts, wouldn't it be easier to spot a fake GBA distro cart if they don't have the DIP switch label on the cart? With a bit of public images, assuming the labels vary, that could clear up any legitimacy confusion someone could have about potential counterfeits.

Someone could bypass this by printing new labels. There is a website for label preservation and it used to include 100% scans of the nintndo dev cart labels. I don't know if they are still on that site or if they are taken down.

[theSLAYER]

1 minute ago, pMD said:

Someone could bypass this by printing new labels. There is a website for label preservation and it used to include 100% scans of the nintndo dev cart labels. I don't know if they are still on that site or if they are taken down.

you have the link to said site?

[pMD]

@theSLAYER, http://www.thecoverproject.net/ &  www.gamegeekhq.com

 

The second one seems to be down.

[theSLAYER]

1 minute ago, pMD said:

@theSLAYER, http://www.thecoverproject.net/ &  www.gamegeekhq.com

 

The second one seems to be down.

was hoping to find the event related ones on it, but didn't

[Deoxyz]

10 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

by the way, did it come with a save file? emulators aren't creating one for it.

I'm 99% positive that these don't create save files.

11 minutes ago, Invader TAK said:

I'd love to have that Aurora Ticket ROM.

Send me a PM approx early-mid February :^)

[pMD]

@Deoxyz, do those "legal reasons" involve legal agreements and contracts between an italian source and "former Nintendo employees"?

[pMD]

@theSLAYER, here's a pic of the Nintndo prototype label. The text is listed below:

Spoiler

 

AGBカートリッジ　128MフラッシュS
ディップスイッチの設定

SW3はライトプロテクト用切替えスイッチです。ライターでの書込み時のみOFF、それ意外はONにして使用してください。
スライドスイッチの故障を防ぐ為、ピンセットなどで切替えてください。

 

Which translates to:

AGB Cartridge, 128M Flash S
Dip switch settings

SW3 is the write protection switch. Please only switch it to OFF for writing, otherwise keep it in the ON setting. 　In order to prevent failures, please switch the slide switch using tweezers.

 

Edited December 24, 2016 by pMD

[theSLAYER]

2 minutes ago, pMD said:

@theSLAYER, here's a pic of the Nintndo prototype label. The text is listed below:

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AGBカートリッジ　128MフラッシュS
ディップスイッチの設定

SW3はライトプロテクト用切替えスイッチです。ライターでの書込み時のみOFF、それ意外はONにして使用してください。
スライドスイッチの故障を防ぐ為、ピンセットなどで切替えてください。

 

Whick translates to:

AGB Cartridge, 128M Flash S
Dip switch settings

SW3 is the write protection switch. Please only switch it to OFF for writing, otherwise keep it in the ON setting. 　In order to prevent failures, please switch the slide switch using tweezers.

 

Saw that type of cart on that one ebay seller.

I was thinking if it'll be more unique/have differences.

at the very least, the glossy sticker look like it'll tear or something when tempered with..

[Deoxyz]

17 minutes ago, pMD said:

@Deoxyz, do those "legal reasons" involve legal agreements and contracts between an italian source and "former Nintendo employees"?

I'm not gonna talk about it much in the thread here, but send me a PM if there's anything you know about that that I should know.

[Invader TAK]

37 minutes ago, XJ55 said:

Yes. I live in Italy, but I'm not italian.

The "Nintendo Employee" is just one. Although I'm not too sure about what was his role with Nintendo, I only know he had a bunch of carts which I purchased. I paid over 10.000€, and I'm still paying a monthly fee which I'll finish paying in June 2017.

 

I currently have: 1 10ANNIV for each european language, 1 Aura Mew for each european language, 1 Aurora Ticket US, 1 Shiny Zigzagoon UK, and some others I can't disclose any info about currently, but I have told some people about them. I had multiple 10ANNIV UK, Aura Mew UK, Aurora Ticket US, Shiny Zigzagoon UK ( whose cart was different from the others) because apparently these UK carts were not used only in UK, but also other countries in the north of Europe. Aurora Ticket US was used in several US states.

Some of those carts were also sold on Nintendoage by some guy in 2012. That's how several people got their hands on them ( I was lucky enough to get some myself), and that's why I'm allowed to sell 10ANNIV and Aurora Ticket US freely. I got them in the past before I had a deal with that guy. Some other people got Shiny Zigzagoon, so it was "leaked" before I got my hands on the lot of carts from that guy. Similar dynamic with Aura Mew, and I think there's a post on here too, so I did sell it in the past, but I sold them quickly and I have no intention to share the ROMs currently.

In the past few years I sold a few 10ANNIV, a few Aurora Ticket US, a few Shiny Zigzagoon UK and a few Aura Mew UK ( although these last ones were sold to a single buyer years ago, so I never put them on eBay, but you'll probably find them for sale by someone else sooner or later).

I don't have any other carts to sell anymore. I was just selling to get some money back, and now I've finished all spare carts I had.

As I said, in June 2017 I'll finish paying and I'll be "more free" to talk about whatever else I have. Check back in July 2017 and I'll have something sweet for you all.

 

 

Is the UK Shiny Zigzagoon the same as the one from the North America Version 14 and 16 Demo Discs? If so, then no one's gonna be bugging you for that one.