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  1. Hello... Whoever's reading, I was thinking, many sites have a Pokémon of the week feature, wherein once a week a pokemon is picked at random / via community poll and is then "reviewed" for everyone to see. I was thinking that it'd be a good idea for the PP community to try this out too, as at the moment it's pretty much all research and the occasional out of research debate... which is cool, but what about the rest of us? All work and no play makes jack a dull boy I would be prepared to do this myself with the help of whoever is willing to give it and as it's once a week it wouldn't be too taxing, anyway. I'd try to cover everything about the pokemon that I can, sans maybe Manga and Anime references as I don't really keep up to date with those. Though if someone is good with all that, then I'd happily use their input. I think this will be good for keeping traffic that isn't just research based, whilst allowing the community to have a light hearted discussion about things that require little thought... Might bring us together a bit Possibly wishful thinking but it certainly wouldn't harm. Thank you for you for reading and hopefully considering
  2. In light of getting this piece of "bling" I figured I'd post my most recent Gen V team Sazzy Says Back Story For a while people have been hyping up Hydreigon, and I felt that it was getting pretty unjust hype as I'd been able to beat most hydreigon that I'd faced and had little success using one of its sets. After enough persuasion from a good friend on my server, as well as from Wraith I figured I'd give it another attempt. In making the team I felt I needed to go for a more offencive approach, as I know that Hydreigon is known breaking stall and walls, with walls and stallers gone it would allow for a more offencive team to break down an opposing team. I also felt that getting as many immunities and resistance on team as possible would be a good idea, seeing as I rarely go full offence I wanted to know that I had people that could switch in most attacks that will be thrown. Team Lead Heatran (M) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Flash Fire EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def) - Fire Blast - Stone Edge - Earth Power - Hidden Power [ice] Heatran is technically my lead, but it isn't really. Due to the team preview of Gen V, the lead game has been all but ruined, there is no surprise to any team now, so having an azelf lead would just mean the opponent will put his Azelf counter in the first position and ruins your plan. Heatran makes for a good pokemon to feign as a lead, as it is known to run a lead set, however I rarely keep him in front once the battle starts (for the above reasons.) Anyway, his roll on the team is to switch in on one of his many resistance that will be thrown at other members on my team. He will happily come in on scizor trying to dispatch of my Gengar, he'll happy switch in on outrages and dragon claws thrown at sazandora. He'll also switch in opposing heatran trying to kill Ferrothorn. Generally speaking, I can go to him with little worries, he's a nice strong pokemon that does exactly what I want him to. I've opted for the choice scarf set as I want to get rid of Garchomp/ Salamence / Dragonite / Gliscor / Chandelure as quickly as possible. He will usually switch in on Gliscor's Fling / SD / protect/ Acrobat and get a quick clean OHKO as most people are generally running the slower versions of Heatran, so Gliscor will try to EQ as I HP ice. The same is true with Shandelure. The move set is pretty standard, with Stone edge for Volcarona who will usually force Sazandora / Ferrothorn to switch. Fighting Weakness: Gengar / Gyardos Ground Weakness: Hydreigon / Gengar / Gyarados Water Weakness: Ferrothorn Physical Sweeper Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Intimidate EVs: 156 HP / 84 Atk / 100 Def / 168 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Dragon Dance - Taunt - Waterfall - Stone Edge This is my physical sweeper of the team, and given the opportunity it can really unleash some hell. Its main use is to switch in on something like Blissey who will usually give this team some problems, set up on it and shut it down with taunt. If they are silly enough to stay in then it's basically GG for the opposition. His flying typing also brings me some great opportunities to switch in, as Garchomp/Mence love to EQ at heatran, Gyarados can switch in safely and get a DD up; if they then bring in Skarmory I taunt it and DD up until I have enough power to OHKO it with Waterfall. It's basically made to bait walls and use them as set up fodder. He has great synergy with Heatran as not only do their typings save eachother from scary moves, but heatran can quickly dispatch of Ferrothorn who pretty much walls this Gyara. With the given EVs its never 2HKOd by Scarfed garchomp's outrage, it outspeeds the whole unboosted metagame after a DD and the rest is just put into Atk. The bulk, I learnt, allows it to never be OHKO by a -1 Arcanine Wild Charge, also. Electric Weakness: Ferrothorn Rock Weakness: Ferrothorn / Heatran Wall Ferrothorn (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Iron Barbs EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Stealth Rock - Leech Seed - Thunder Wave - Power Whip Ferrothorn is on team to remove of bulky waters that can really get pretty annoying to this team, he is also my primary go to guy if any strong attack is coming my way. It has absolutely fantastic bulk and is a general wall with in excess of 110 in both defences and a movepool made to make people cry. I will often use ferrothorn in the lead position if I see the opponent has a water type pokemon on team, as they will generally put the water type in first position to dispatch of my heatran. The moveset, again, is a very standard set. I have opted for Stealth rock over spikes as it A) hits every switch in and B) Ferrothorn doesn't get the luxury of an instant recovery move unlike Skarmory, and as such has a very limited window of set up. Thunderwave is cool as it cripples Infernape / Heatran switch ins to make them easier to dispose of later in the game. Powerwhip over Gyroball is to hit the aforementioned bulky waters. Fire Weakness: Heatran / Gyarados / Hydreigon Fighting Weakness: Gengar / Gyarados Stall Breaker / Scouter Hydra (Hydreigon) (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Levitate EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Draco Meteor - Fire Blast - Taunt - U-turn / Dark Pulse / Crunch / Surf This guy is the star of the show. Originally the team was built around him so that I could test him out and see how he works. Suffice to say I am very pleased with him now that I have gotten used to him. The beautiful thing about him is the check-mate position he puts teams into. Now lets say I switch him into Ferrothorn, Skarmory or an EQ locked pokémon. The former two I shut down with taunt, placing them into a damned position, and the latter is already in a bad spot, they now have to decide who they want to lose. Do they keep their wall in and hope that I don't OHKO? Or do they switch in someone else that could possibly get OHKOd by one of Hydreigon's STAB or coverage moves? This moveset is the basic wall breaking set, made to blow holes into everything it meets. Draco Meteor is basic STAB that will leave a dent in anything that isn't of the steel Persuasion, fire blast hits everything else sans heatran (whom my heatran removes) Taunt is for shutting down walls and my last spot is one that I am currently working on. U turn thus far has had the best success, however I am thinking of foregoing U turn for secondary stab / a way to hurt Blissey or a way to deal with heatran without having to switch out. A modest nature is used as a Timid nature doesn't really get the jump on anything much and the benefits a modest nature reaps is a lot to pass up on. Fighting Weakness: Gengar / Gyarados Dragon Weakness: Heatran / Ferrothorn Ice Weakness: Heatran Spinner Hitmontop (M) @ Life Orb Trait: Technician EVs: 240 HP / 248 Atk / 20 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Fake Out - Mach Punch - Rapid Spin - Sucker Punch Hitmontop is my teams Rapid Spinner, and a great one at that. I often use him in lead position, as he can take out Ttar leads. This is basically technitop from Gen IV, however in this generation it does seem to be working much better being able to take out and arguably more prevalent Tyranitar, Being able to 2HKO Terrakion with Fake Out + Mach Punch and being able to dispose of things like Bisharp, Starmie and Gengar. It's generally a great pokemon that does seem to do a number to the current fighting / dark weak metagame. I switch him in when ever I see someone like tyranitar / Terrakion... Anything that I can switch in on a Dark / Rock attack and and 2HKO basically. The EV spread is pretty basic, 240 HP means 11 turns of LO damage, fake out + mach punch are standard and sucker punch is to hit the ghost / Psychic switch ins. I believe the 20 EVs allow me to outrun CB scizor so I can 2HKO it after rocks. Though I can't rightly remember why I put the 20 in Speed. Psychic Weakness: Ferrothorn / Hydreigon / Heatran Flying Weakness: Heatran Meta-Checker Gengar (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Substitute - Disable - Shadow Ball - Thunderbolt Gengar is currently, IMO, the epitome of anti meta. It can check damned near everything. Reuniclus that usually runs Psycho Shock/ Focus blast gets swiftly shut down when I disable its psycho Shock and start nailing it with shadow balls. Bulk up Conkeldur w/ Drain Punch / Mach Punch / Payback (Stone edge) gets nailed when I Disable its coverage move. Anything that's choice locked and switches in on me when I am behind a sub gets completely screwed over too. Sub / Disable also protects me from anyone trying to pursuit trap me, as I disable their pursuit THEN switch to an apt counter. He also helps to cover my fighting weakness that is shared by Hydra / Heatran / Ferrothorn and can generally dispatch of anyone throwing a fighting attack. He also shuts down most blissey and every chansey and pretty much gives me a free switch in. A lot of pokemon struggle to get passed this Gengar as it's just generally very good. He works in tandem with pretty much every member of my team and makes great use of Ferrothorn, as the leech seed support provided means that Gengar can be back to full health in no time. He likes that Heatran removes scizor and he's happy to see the back tyranitar; thanks Hitmontop. I run leftovers, as behind the sub I can generally get my health back as I am disabling folks, plus LO isn't practical as this gar is meant for Longevity not sweeping. I can't justify why I have gone for thunderbolt as my coverage move, so I may switch that for whatever the best alternative is. Ghost Weakness: Ferrorthorn / Heatran / Hydreigon Psychic Weakness: Ferrorthorn / Heatran / Hydreigon Dark Weakness: Hitmontop ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ So that's my team, I hope you enjoyed reading It's my first Gen V team that I've posted here I think, and it's still not without its holes, so if you spot one do let me know so I can rectify it Thanks for reading!
  3. Welcome to the site, Spectre Many of us here too have been playing since the RBY days so it's always nice to welcome another veteran to the forums If you're new to all of this stuff then I would suggest not even wasting your time on Pokesav, pokegen is much better and easier to use (plus the owner of Pokégen is based on these forums so you can much easier annoy him with mass questions.) It's never been easier to use pokégen and send them to your game as it is now, as you can make your pokémon in Pokégen and use a fake GTS to send them to your DS. Check the Miscellaneous emulation forum for the GTS and the Pokégen forum for Pokégen. If you have any questions feel free to ask us Enjoy your stay.
  4. I'll do one of my favourite pokes now, because I feel it's really quite anti meta (currently) :B Spiritomb Type: Ghost / Dark Ability: Pressure / Slip through Stats: 50 / 92 / 108 / 92 /108 / 35 Spiritomb is a generally awesome Pokemon. A lot of people do scoff at it, however it does have a fair few niches in which it excels. Firstly it is unexpected as hell, and most people once they see it aren't quite sure what to do. The reason being it has a great movepool and its stats allow for a lot of versatility. One of the main reasons to use it ia its spinblocking ability. With its typing bulk and access to sucker punch/ pursuit it can trap and destroy starmie; one of the metagame's premium spinners. Not only that, but spinning Excadrill also hates it due to Will-o-wisp and Hidden Power Fighting; so right there are two premium spinners in the game that get ruined by Spiritomb. Its offences, all though slightly on the low side, are very usable, with a huge attacking movepool it can remove Pokemon like Reuniclus, conkeldurr, Bisharp, Jellicent, tyranitar and the aforementioned spinners. Generation V didn't really bring it any new tricks, however the metagame shift made spiritomb a lot more viable with plenty of psychic and fighting typed pokemon to ruin. Spiritomb will find little use for the Slip through ability, as it can also enjoy pressure stalling with Rest Talk sets, or even a super mean Spite set. Spiritomb has the whole freaking magician's box of tricks up its sleave, so don't under estimate it or you may find half of your team wondering "what the hell just happened!?" The best way to beat it is switch in something with bulky stats that resists Spiritomb's moves and doesn't mind being burnt. Things with Taunt and or torment will absolutely ruin Spiritomb, so Poison heal Gliscor and Torment tran are great candidates. While spiritomb loves burning things, it generally hates being burnt itself, and toxic will wear it down also. Don't both Paralysing it, as with 35 base... it really doesn't care.
  5. Haha that's pretty sweet Zwei. I guess that's why I'm such a huge Charizard fanboy, my first ever pokemon and all. It looked ass ugly in retrospect (on the Gameboy BLOCK), but it was my ass ugly awesome little bundle of fun. Back when IVs EVs and even moveset didn't mean anything .
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    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Finally got my Team Rater badge <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/biggrin.png" alt=":D" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/biggrin@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>

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  7. Added sets Feel free to pretty it up for me wraithy boy ;D
  8. UPDATED: 14 May 2011 (This was mostly relevant Gen IV/V) - Pokemon sets are now consistent with the descriptions accompanying them - Slightly better format Mostly taken from Smogon Roles: Commonly used terms Abbreviations
  9. Hey bro, welcome to the site Erm, you can change your avatar by going to settings in the top right hand corner, that should bring up the CP, then on the left it should say "Edit avatar" or something like that... it's in there somewhere. Enjoy your stay!
  10. Welcome to the site, Pink! It's nice to meet you and see an into that's more than a single line of "hello... see ya." Myself and others all over the site have also been long time fans, I've been playing from the start . I'm trying to get into graphics and what not, but I kind of suck so yo umight have to teach me some time Feel free to post and nose around, and if there's anything I or anyone else can help you with, make sure to ask . Enjoy your stay.
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    <p><p><p><p><p><p>They fully look boss dude. They need Xatus and and any pokemon that has scythes... but not scyther <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/laugh.png" alt="xD" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/laugh@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" />.</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Tbird: JUST GOT TROLLED BY THE TELLY</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Tbird: Old lady sitting in the chair eating a kitkat says</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Tbird: "I do like kitkat, but between you and me I'd rather be sucking cock"</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Tbird: What has British telly come to?</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Tbird: Too troll even for me</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Tbird: I was just getting some food and I hear that</p></p></p></p></p></p>

     

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    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Replied on my own bloody wall <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/laugh.png" alt="xD" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/laugh@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>

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  13. <p><p><p><p><p><p>Oh I'll happily do him, I used him enough.</p></p></p></p></p></p>

  14. <p><p><p><p><p><p>Ugh, he's doing the same as us. We must be better >: D</p></p></p></p></p></p>

  15. <p><p><p><p><p><p>Just got check the pokemon-online usage stats and make your way down the wifi list I guess.</p></p></p></p></p></p>

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    <p><p><p><p><p><p>OH</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Trolllololol. Make me one of them Paper-planes like a boss <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/biggrin.png" alt=":D" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/biggrin@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>

     

  17. <p><p><p><p><p><p>Cow and chicken?</p></p></p></p></p></p>

  18. <p><p><p><p><p><p>Too much win; even by my standards.</p></p></p></p></p></p>

  19. <p><p><p><p><p><p>I am registered. What is this I don't even :'(</p></p></p></p></p></p>

  20.  

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Trollin none are animated :B</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Sauce!</p></p></p></p></p></p>

     

  21. <p><p><p><p><p><p>Well I guess I'll just try and stick with a bread and butter LO/Spex set on a sun team. See if it can beast <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/biggrin.png" alt=":D" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/biggrin@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" />. But yeah the new guys just have stats that are perfect for what they want to do. It kinda makes me sick <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/laugh.png" alt="xD" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/laugh@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" />.</p></p></p></p></p></p>

  22. <p><p><p><p><p><p>The sand might be a good thing, I think it'd mean hitting <25% sooner, giving me about 4~ turns. But getting behind the sub in the first place might be a task, though <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/unsure.png" alt=":/" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/unsure@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" />.</p></p></p></p></p></p>

  23.  

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Just a thought, DD Petaya? I know it's currently an illegal moveset, but you talking about empoleon got me thinking... Zard already has speed so sub + 1 speed is going to be pretty fast, factor in the possibility of getting 2 DDs and you're going to be faster than Exacdrill in the sand; and I believe I would tailor my speed to specifically troll on +2 Excadrill, rest into HP... Might even be able to run a modest set. Modest + petaya and a hopeful +2 speed is going to be pretty pro.</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>So I guess it would look something like:</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Charizard (M) @ Petaya Berry</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Trait: Blaze</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>EVs: 80 HP / 252 SAtk / 168 Spd</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) / Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)/ Jolly/ Naive/ Hasty</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>- Substitute</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>- Dragon Dance</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>- Fire Blast / Flamethrower</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>- Air Slash / HP grass / Earthquake</p></p></p></p></p></p>

    <p><p><p><p><p><p>Outspeed Adamant Excadrill, Great coverage, blaze activated Fire blast + petaya + 2 speed + behind a sub sounds beastly. 404 Atk / 522 SAtk... I dunno, what do you think?</p></p></p></p></p></p>

     

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