ryuefi Posted March 19 Posted March 19 Tangrowth (M) @ Petaya Berry IVs: 1 HP / 6 Atk / 8 Def / 28 SpA / 6 SpD / 3 Spe Ability: Chlorophyll <<< leaf guard Level: 50 Brave Nature - Sunny Day - Morning Sun - Ancient Power - Natural Gift https://pokemon.fandom.com/ko/wiki/배포_이벤트/한국_2008 https://namu.wiki/w/포켓몬스터/배포 일람
Kaphotics Posted March 19 Posted March 19 Moved from PKHeX, as PKHeX uses the EventsGallery to source pcd redemptions. I traced the origin of the data (originally committed as a reconstructed `pgt` file, then later converted to PCD then WC4): Adds reconstructed pikachu cafe tangrowth · projectpokemon/EventsGallery@4962acf · GitHub Was uploaded with a fixed PID and ability of Chlorophyll. I'm not sure the other sites you've referenced are correct. Serebii has no event data logged, and I found another site which indicates it is Chlorophyll instead of Leaf Guard: Viewing Event Pokémon Details - PocketMonsters.Net
ICanSnake Posted Friday at 09:54 PM Posted Friday at 09:54 PM (edited) Yes, the Tangrowth's ability is correctly Leaf Guard. I have found multiple sources from people who originally went to the event that showed the ability of the Tangrowth. 1. Orochi is confirmed to be a participant in the event. He made it to the semi-finals and lost to the winner. 2. This person goes by Necrophobia, who was a +1 to a participant in the event, her brother named Zero (제로) shown in Group C above. She catalogued the distribution in good detail. https://blog.naver.com/hha512/70035591794 3. Xaewon (재원) in Group A traveled from outside of Busan to Seoul and documented his trip for the tournament well: https://blog.naver.com/xaewon/55995585 https://blog.naver.com/xaewon/56089988 https://blog.naver.com/xaewon/57219017 4. Flowerpot was a +1 to a participant to another semifinalist, Dream (드림) and has also stated the ability was fixed to Leaf Guard. https://bbs.ruliweb.com/family/515/board/300389/read/698622 5. https://m.blog.naver.com/chltjsrb503/150040922827 Back in 2009, I have never heard of a Chlorophyll Tangrowth. Chlorophyll is only assumed because the PID says it should be Chlorophyll. But there are 0 sources that say Chlorophyll. Edited with the sources saved on my computer. If you need more sources let me know, I was the one who updated Bulbapedia's listing of Tangrowth to the information I found. Edited Friday at 11:00 PM by ICanSnake
Kaphotics Posted Friday at 11:04 PM Posted Friday at 11:04 PM Can't know for sure because I don't think the PCD was ever contributed. It might be a fake of a fake. The original PGT had Chlorophyll for both the PID%2 as well as the AbilityID in the pkm data.
ICanSnake Posted Friday at 11:10 PM Posted Friday at 11:10 PM On 3/21/2025 at 11:04 PM, Kaphotics said: Can't know for sure because I don't think the PCD was ever contributed. It might be a fake of a fake. The original PGT had Chlorophyll for both the PID%2 as well as the AbilityID in the pkm data. Expand The PGT you are talking about is faked, it's based on assumed information. The PCD and PGT has never been contributed, I believe it was never even dumped by the receivers. The attendees I linked in the sources above have documented the Tangrowth very well and shown pictures of the Tangrowth's ability while at the event venue. I've contacted both Orochi and Necrophobia and they don't have the wondercard available, so I don't think it will be possible to receive the official PCD or PGT, but there is no need for the PCD or PGT to verify the ability because it was advertised at the event.
Kaphotics Posted Saturday at 12:01 AM Posted Saturday at 12:01 AM For these events with a fixed Ability/Nature/Gender, they're distributed with a specific PID. If the faked PID/PGT is giving the wrong ability, then it would need to be corrected with the right PID.
ICanSnake Posted Saturday at 12:14 AM Posted Saturday at 12:14 AM On 3/22/2025 at 12:01 AM, Kaphotics said: For these events with a fixed Ability/Nature/Gender, they're distributed with a specific PID. If the faked PID/PGT is giving the wrong ability, then it would need to be corrected with the right PID. Expand If you are talking about updating the database with the correct ability, then yeah. Personally I don't believe the PID is wrong either. After researching the distribution for both Pikacafe tournaments and the attendees messages in September/October 2008, I believe the ability for Tangrowth was forced to be Leaf Guard. Forced as in regardless of the PID, similar to my conclusions for my research of the GTS 2009 events. Now the PID is something I don't have proof for, I don't have any Tangrowth that come from a reputable source, I only have circumstancial evidence. The Tangrowth I have traded for in 2009 and 2010 have a specific PID that's also shown on the faked PGT file above, the faked Korean wondercards that were recently mentioned on a different thread have the same PID, and I have not seen a different PID for a legal Tangrowth. A lot of the participants for the Tangrowth event come from Korean communities where cloning is very frowned upon, if not banned, so I don't believe they would be willing to share their self-obtained Tangrowths for research. In the tweet I posted, Orochi posted information on the Tangrowth he still has, and Orochi is on the PP Discord server, but he is a well-known uncloned trader who doesn't hack his games.
theSLAYER Posted Saturday at 02:29 AM Posted Saturday at 02:29 AM @SkyLink98 we’re going to need to take a look at this, as well as test the redemption criteria in-game of the same PID + forced ability. thanks @ryuefi for reporting and @ICanSnake for the in depth analysis.
Sabresite Posted Saturday at 09:00 PM Posted Saturday at 09:00 PM I don't remember who gave me the Pokemon for PCafe, but the wondercards are placeholders. The Pokemon could have been fake. This is denoted by the (C) in the filename. EDIT: I think I only received the PID/SID/IVs and had to reconstruct everything else. So it's possible I didn't force the ability. Ultimately we can't know anything for sure without an original. Since most of the people that got it continued to play the game, I assume the WC is lost.
Sabresite Posted Sunday at 12:20 AM Posted Sunday at 12:20 AM Thanks to @ICanSnake - I replaced the wondercards with more accurate placeholders (note the (C) in the name). https://github.com/projectpokemon/EventsGallery/commit/7c602604f9a49803155665f8efc1a82a4a7fe179 1
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