Gen 3: Suicune unaffected by Roamer's glitch

[Toffoletto]

Hello,

I plan to start a new game in Fire Red, and I'd like to "shinify" the PID 8B1D95DC in order to get a shiny Suicune with the spread 0/0/0/0/0/0; so, in other words, a Suicune that should be unaffected by the Roamer's glitch, just for the sake of it.

However, after some test done with PKHeX, it turns out that such Suicune is marked as illegal, while other Method 1 Pokemons with that spread are legal. Apparently, the issue is an "Encounter type PID mismatch".

Is it an error with PKHeX, or this Suicune is simply unobtainable? And, if this is the case, what's the reason?

Thank you in advance for your help.

[theSLAYER]

52 minutes ago, Toffoletto said:

Hello,

I plan to start a new game in Fire Red, and I'd like to "shinify" the PID 8B1D95DC in order to get a shiny Suicune with the spread 0/0/0/0/0/0; so, in other words, a Suicune that should be unaffected by the Roamer's glitch, just for the sake of it.

However, after some test done with PKHeX, it turns out that such Suicune is marked as illegal, while other Method 1 Pokemons with that spread are legal. Apparently, the issue is an "Encounter type PID mismatch".

Is it an error with PKHeX, or this Suicune is simply unobtainable? And, if this is the case, what's the reason?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Upload it for us to see

[Toffoletto]

Sure, here it is.

245 ★ - SUICUNE - 49C78B1D95DC.pk4

[Ruby Genseki]

Seems like it's an error by PKHeX. As far as RNG Reporter shows, there are 2 possible IV combinations for that PID via method 1 and PKHeX accepts the second one as legal (taking the glitch into consideration, of course).

Either that, or there's some "prevent all 0" flag I don't know about, preventing it from being obtainable.

[Sabresite]

2 hours ago, Ruby Genseki said:

Seems like it's an error by PKHeX. As far as RNG Reporter shows, there are 2 possible IV combinations for that PID via method 1 and PKHeX accepts the second one as legal (taking the glitch into consideration, of course).

Either that, or there's some "prevent all 0" flag I don't know about, preventing it from being obtainable.

Hold CTRL and click the legality button, then paste full legality report.

[Ruby Genseki]

22 minutes ago, Sabresite said:

Hold CTRL and click the legality button, then paste full legality report.

Right, forgot to mention the illegality reason, but it's the typical Encounter/PID mismatch
Here:

G3 roamers are supposed to use method 1, AFAIK.

[Sabresite]

It is because FrLG Roamers are not subject to the roaming glitch.  That was only R/S IIRC.  So the IVs would be "full IVs."
Note the first Method 1, 2, 4 was always 0, 0, 0.

[Guest]

42 minutes ago, Sabresite said:

It is because FrLG Roamers are not subject to the roaming glitch.  That was only R/S IIRC.

https://glitchcity.info/wiki/Roaming_Pokémon_IV_glitch

[Sabresite]

1 hour ago, Ammako said:

https://glitchcity.info/wiki/Roaming_Pokémon_IV_glitch

Ahh ok, thank you.  I guess it is a PKHex glitch?  @Kaphotics?

I see where it does the method finding: https://github.com/kwsch/PKHeX/blob/a5dbdf91bd13bfaeb8e66f9bc7bc8743b047e4fc/PKHeX.Core/Legality/RNG/MethodFinder.cs#L695

The IV checking - I don't see the problem though:
https://github.com/kwsch/PKHeX/blob/a5dbdf91bd13bfaeb8e66f9bc7bc8743b047e4fc/PKHeX.Core/Legality/RNG/MethodFinder.cs#L182

[Kaphotics]

Fixed: https://github.com/kwsch/PKHeX/commit/b69a6df6e785cbc7f7d4c737c8646f84af432e3e

[Toffoletto]

Ok, thanks to all of you!