Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

[Hozu]

You did something that altered the Pokémon in such a way that an unmodified cart cannot create itself. Play without an AR and you won't have any legality issues.

[Thepenguinking2]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2u6jpyh.png

I was making an event meloetta, but it says It has no event for it to be legal, but on Pokegen, I set it to "obtained in game event" as well as "Egg/Pal Park/Event/Honey tree/Shaymin".

EDIT: I see what I did wrong. I needed to set it to "Pokemon Movie 12" instead of "Game event."

[Kaphotics]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2u6jpyh.png

I was making an event meloetta, but it says It has no event for it to be legal, but on Pokegen, I set it to "obtained in game event" as well as "Egg/Pal Park/Event/Honey tree/Shaymin".

EDIT: I see what I did wrong. I needed to set it to "Pokemon Movie 12" instead of "Game event."

>making an event meloetta

This thread is for reporting legitimate Pokemon that have false LA results. Not for making hacked Pokemon look legal.

[ProjectTitan313]

Union Cave Lapras is flagged as unknown encounter http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3873387

I don't think the date for the seed is a Friday, but I just saved in its face and talked to it after hitting frame+seed if that might be the issue.

[Agonist]

That has been an issue for quite some time now. Roamers are in the same boat.

A user had uploaded a level 21 Lucario with moves ExtremeSpeed and Close Combat. This is illegal because Riolu cannot inherit them as level-up egg moves, nor can Lucario have learned them at such a low level. However, the LA flags them as level-up egg moves.

In a similar vein, this is illegal: http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3892162

Tyrogue cannot learn either Close Combat, or Detect, so there isn't any way for them to be level-up moves inherited from the parents (and of course Ditto can't learn either move naturally). And obviously Hitmontop itself doesn't learn them until much later.

Edit: Unsurprisingly, the same idiot has another bad hack with the same issue: http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3882676 . Same issue as above, this time with Blaze Kick.

Edit 2: http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=538500 Gen 3 Shedinja retains the ball Nincada was caught in.

Edited March 18, 2013 by Agonist

[Hozu]

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=3901763

Met/egg received dates must be between 2000 and 2099 due to the date restrictions set by the console. DS can be 2000-2099, while 3DS can be 2000-2050.

Edit: DSi is also 2000-2099.

Technically the year is stored as a 1 byte value that can legally be between 0x00 and 0x63 inclusive at 0x7B in the .pkm file.

Edited March 19, 2013 by Hozu

[Vicjor]

This pokémon solo spread with male sex

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3917253

[Hozu]

This pokémon solo spread with male sex

http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3917253

The wondercard data explicitly allows it to be any gender. All information about wondercard events is pulled directly from wondercards.

[Nigoli]

This pokémon solo spread with male sex

http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?15282-Gen-V-Event-Collection-and-Contribution-Thread&p=162685&viewfull=1#post162685

This can be random.

[BlackShark]

Why is this Magikarp shown as hacked? It's an ingame trade from german Platinum on Route 226.

[Hozu]

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4080228

The egg hatched location must exist in the game version of origin for 4th gen format eggs, unless the Egg Received location is Link Trade. Example, in Solaceon Town does not exist in HG/SS.

Edit: Could there be mouseover text for CntSt to explain that it means Contest Stats? Also, come to think of it, that applies for 5th gen eggs, but even when traded (ie. no B/W1 version w/ egg hatched at Virbank, or B/W2 version w/ egg at Route 10). Just not 4th gen eggs in 5th gen format (hatch location becomes Poketransfer).

Oh and of course, Cold Storage and PWT have the same hex for the location.

Edited April 1, 2013 by Hozu

[Hozu]

I noticed that eggs hatched in B/W2 that have all flawless (or 30s) for IVs have a red flag for IVs. However, it also shows up for eggs with the egg received location as Link Trade. Could there be an orange message saying "Probably edited or RNG abused on another game" instead?

Edit: https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4094553 That wondercard that I downloaded from this site isn't on the LA. Same with the Sceptile from my account.

Edited April 2, 2013 by Hozu

[dcrispell7]

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4095294

Helping Hand is showing up as hacked for gen 4 Poliwag even though it is a valid move tutor in HG/SS (and probably Plaitnum too, but I didn't check on that version so I don't know which tutors are HG/SS exclusive).

Upon transfer to gen 5 the move shows up just fine, however.

[Uzumaki Naruto]

It seems the move should be from a event only, and the move may be incompatible with another move.

[Dark Ray]

Pokewalker Pikachu with Fly and Surf is showing up as legal when transferred to 5th gen, due to the "no HM moves" restriction for Poketransfer it's not.

[randomspot555]

Had to delete some posts to get rid of the offending content.

As Hozu said, the purpose of this thread is to report bugs in Pokecheck's legality analysis. It is not to declare if something is hacked or not or how to make stuff legal.

Anyone going off topic in the thread is eligible for post deletion and infractions. Please feel free to Report or PM me for any rule offenders.

[Hozu]

This isn't with the LA itself but... for the Spanish translation, Farfetch'd is missing in the drop-down list of Pokémon.

[Dark Ray]

The message "This Pokémon should have trash bytes." should not appear on this Pokemon. https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4188421

[EXEC_HARMONIOUS/.]

Disregard this, I misread something.

[1quacka1]

I'm wondering why the checker doesn't include a check for ribbons. Take this: https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=2362804 , for example. It has several GenIII-only ribbons despite it being obtained in GenIV, not only that it has several Battle Tower/Frontier medals despite Mew being unable to compete in it. Yet Pokécheck says it's ok. Those kind of things would be easy to look for, though I do realise my next suggestions will be a bit harder

There's also "suspicious" (yellow text) things to look out for, but it's a bit harder: for example a Pokémon having the "master" rank medal in 2 or more contest categories would be suspicious - as it's hard to max out 2 stats. Indeed you can even look at the contest stats to see if it has a high stat in a category it got a master rank medal in. Contest stats are still in GenV you just can't see them. If you Pokétransfered a Feebas with max beauty and leveled it up it still evolves. Another thing to look for here would be the fact that for it to have any contest ribbon, it also needs the ribbon that's ranked below it (ie, a pokemon with a genIII master ribbon also needs hyper, super and normal of the same type. without hyper it couldn't compete in master, without super it couldn't compete in hyper, without normal it couldn't compete in super)

For GenIV pokes you check for ribbons removed in GenV, which were presumably removed because they were never used. There are other ribbons still in the code that bulbapedia claim have not been made avialable, http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Ribbons_in_the_games . They'll be hard to verify whether or not they have been made available, but stuff like "World Champion Ribbon" should at least be considered suspicious.

[Hozu]

There's also "suspicious" (yellow text) things to look out for, but it's a bit harder: for example a Pokémon having the "master" rank medal in 2 or more contest categories would be suspicious - as it's hard to max out 2 stats. Indeed you can even look at the contest stats to see if it has a high stat in a category it got a master rank medal in.

I don't know how good poffins can be for raising contest stats in 4th gen, but in 3rd gen it is possible to max out all 5 contest stats apparently... though that requires 4 people (not just 4 GBAs). Thus getting master rank ribbons in all 5 categories isn't impossible. You don't even need to max the contest stats to win them all - I've got all 3rd and 4th gen contest ribbons with ~180ish in all 5 stats. It is possible to get ~180ish in the 5 contest stats with just one cart, though that requires the stat pinch berries (all but Liechi are from Col/XD, Liechi is from Mirage Island only).

Edit: Could there be a question in the FAQ regarding how to get the favourite Pokémon to show in the LA and Battle Vids?

Edited April 14, 2013 by Hozu

[Hozu]

It appears that the eggs from My Pokémon Ranch are set to have their level met as 1 instead of 0. The LA currently flags this as illegal.

[Kaphotics]

Event Ribbon shows up as "History Ribbon"; it shouldn't.

https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=3851897

https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=4226931

I believe the Gen 4 ribbon name is taking precedence over the Gen 5 name (they are Gen 5 PKMs)

[Preziise]

I've heard from some other people that they were having problems with "cloned" Pokemon but this one here is 100% not cloned and shouldn't be showing as having 2 pokechecks.

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4242821

I just caught this yesterday and it said last night that it was unique but then today it changed to showing up twice. It definitely did not go public as well.

[Kaphotics]

not a false positive

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4250089 @theinter

https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=4242821 @preziise

Possible aliases: theinter, eksuos

it's in the database twice.

http://i.snag.gy/qOKLF.jpg