Kaphotics Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 If that's the case, then they manually put different Mews into each cartridge, because according to Twig's post, every Mew is unique. Since they are all unique, they have to follow a certain method of creation, namely the Common GBA Restricted method of PID creation (BACD). What'd be cool to know is the order of the PIDs (since we can reverse the PIDIV to get the seed that created them) so that we can see if an order of creation did exist. Maybe Nintendo had a hidden dev mode rom that can inject pkms, and then they cloned the save onto carts that aren't dev roms. PIDIVs for a whole box or even just 6 in a row would rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twig Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 Since they are all unique, they have to follow a certain method of creation, namely the Common GBA Restricted method of PID creation (BACD).What'd be cool to know is the order of the PIDs (since we can reverse the PIDIV to get the seed that created them) so that we can see if an order of creation did exist. Maybe Nintendo had a hidden dev mode rom that can inject pkms, and then they cloned the save onto carts that aren't dev roms. PIDIVs for a whole box or even just 6 in a row would rock. Bond697 asked me to look into this as well. I should have screenshots up either tonight or tomorrow night depening on when I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaphotics Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 (edited) # PID Nature Seed 1 8ED9DF59 Hasty ED9980A2 2 D17DA4AE Brave 00000932 3 40085E89 Jolly 00005EF3 4 4FC8395D Quirky 0000967D 5 A2016A64 Naive 00001EA5 6 61349D3B Hardy 00001263 7 71EA0850 Timid 0000306E 8 E63D0B31 Mild C53AADD7 9 A1A7F015 Quirky BBBAB281 10 9E712C29 Lonely 23608F29 11 CE7E072F Gentle A2A5A447 12 2211F094 Rash D12EFCC2 Rows 1+2 from a box of the Mystry Mew save file: The PID/Nature, and the Seed that generated them (BACD method) 1-6, 7-12. Half are CGR, half are CGU. Anyone find a pattern for the seeds? Edited February 10, 2011 by Kaphotics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twig Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 Good work guys. If you need a third row, send me a pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabresite Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Sorry, I am a little confused... So each cartridge that was used during the event had COMPLETELY unique mews? If every cartridge has UNIQUE mews, and there were thousands of cartridges used throughout this tour, then that means they had to of used a machine to load them all. Or is each cartridge "set" the same? Also Kaphotics, take the seed and go back 3 or 4 times with it, just to make sure there is no pattern. Twig, or Kaphotics, I would love to see a list of ALL of the mews and their PIDs/IVs. I can run a program through it to find patterns... like I did with shiny zigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twig Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Yes, each mew is unique. The game save has the same OT/ID for each cart, but unique Mews in the PC boxes. This would mean that the game save was cloned, but that a program was used to generate unique Mews in each cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabresite Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) A program was definitely used.... Edited February 25, 2011 by Sabresite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReignOfComputer Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Which confirms that HADOU Mew(s) cannot be shiny. Go figure. Good work guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaphotics Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Which confirms that HADOU Mew(s) cannot be shiny. Go figure.Good work guys. We've been trying to say that all along, but this finally puts the nail in the coffin. The Shiny Hadou mew I put out was a troll, just like DGee's Jeremy Staryu. What we think happened is that the Mews were generated on a Developer Cart (rom) and the save was cloned over to other retail cartridges which were used for distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabresite Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) From what I can extrapolate, there are a total of roughly 340 RNG calls. I theorize 5 calls to create each of the 6 party Pokemon, with 4 calls for the first boxed pokemon. Each box pokemon after that are generated in lots of 5 with a total of 20 RNG calls up until the last pokemon. The question now is, when the seed resets... how is that determined? Also if you think about it, if you are generating 1 pokemon, it will ALWAYS be GCR... get my drift? The GCU comes from generating MORE than 1 pokemon in the same lot. This also means that ALL GCU pokes distributed in this manner can be checked for an "original" seed based on how many were generated at once. Edited April 2, 2011 by Sabresite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poryhack Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 What is this picture of and where did you get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabresite Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Its a picture of a dev rom used to create pokemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bond697 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 What is this picture of and where did you get it? not sure why he didn't link it, it's from here: http://forums.hidden-palace.org/viewtopic.php?t=2895 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabresite Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Here is some development about the Mews: http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?645-Legality-Checker-vB54-24/page26 Twig sent me two additional SAV files. It looks as if each set of 5 mews are completely unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabresite Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I have updated this information, you can find it here: http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?13748-New-Event-Checks-for-next-version-of-Legality-Checker! And again, those of you interested in following my work, look at the screenshots above and you can easily make some determinations from legit pokes found from all of these classes. If anyone has any new/interesting information, please do share! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabocan Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 umm if it's okay with you may i have a GBA game sav with mews in it please or at least the 3gpkm files because i want to use them in my =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabresite Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) If anyone can get a hold of someone who purchased or traded for a shiny mystry mew, please send it to me so I can check for an origination seed, BEFORE legality checker comes out and people reverse it to create their own. Edited April 16, 2011 by Sabresite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twig Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 Did anyone ever send you a shiny MYSTRY Mew Sabre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaphotics Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 From what I've heard, nobody has sent him one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuhWhatWhy Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 i thought no one will offer shiny MYSTRY mew since many people know it is impossible. unless gotten from gts. i shall try to ask for one. but it may most likely be pokesav or something. found it. it has invalid thrash bytes though. and unknown GBA type. MYSTRY Mew Modest .pkm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReignOfComputer Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 @HuhWhatWhy: Yeah, that's hacked. Bad PID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuhWhatWhy Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 sadly yeah. i don't think it is possible to get legit shiny MYSTRY mew. people can say it is legit until you check them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfr Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Here is a list of restricted seeds that should lead to a shiny mew: Seed(hex) Slot PID(hex) (IV total) 250 0 1a950183 (94) 553 2 a85db34f (92) e38 3 c431750 (66) 1042 0 5a074110 (116) 2703 2 f4a5efb6 (120) 33b1 0 fbbce0ae (113) 3b37 3 27b43ca4 (63) 3dc1 2 f0cfebd8 (114) 41a3 0 3b2d203b (104) 5467 0 88859395 (126) 56f2 4 9a6b817c (118) 5827 3 632d783a (86) 5ff0 3 85379e22 (102) 6e98 0 43715863 (51) 724a 2 6e107507 (98) 85c8 0 69ac72bf (82) 85f3 4 9ca787b1 (86) 8908 2 6a3a7129 (90) 8b87 4 98e683f6 (109) 8d47 1 15d1a49 (81) 982a 4 fc7ee76e (108) 9862 0 ec7bf76b (129) a365 1 c4bedfab (87) a719 4 6d99768a (44) aab8 2 b682ad91 (88) b44e 3 ccbcd7ae (61) b942 2 7ed965cb (70) b9f0 0 f896e385 (79) bd8f 3 21e53af1 (61) bfc3 1 a946b254 (93) c21c 1 9901284 (122) c40f 2 adbfb6ab (80) d1d2 1 915f8a4a (89) d365 3 7bfa60ed (79) d83a 1 ccf2d7e6 (66) eb51 0 d9bdc2af (100) f67e 0 eef7f5e7 (120) f81e 3 d97dc26b (57) f943 0 192e023d (120) In the Pokécheck database I have found the following restricted seeds on legal mystry mews: 5841 e6cc e95d 20bf 5e2b ee7f 77ef 34f3 5e2b 643f e95d 302d 9d9c 6065 20bf efc8 e95d 5e2b 34f3 20bf None of these appear in the shiny ones. If twig or Sabresite could have a look in their distribution saves to see if one of the shiny seeds appear on any mew, we could be able to confirm that this distribution (and probably similar others) cannot be shiny (either the program that made the mews into the save file skipped the shiny ones, or they were manually released after they were made) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poryhack Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 So why isn't the save file being shared? are we sure the save isn't just BS? I mean, really I could download every Mew I can find on this site and others that is from that event, chuck them into a file and put it on the cartridge. Screenshots of the game prove nothing, what colour is the cart? When I received an event Pokemon from Gamestation, the cart was black and security sealed into the GBA SP they were using to distribute it. Just seems phony to me. It's not. The people who needed to see this have seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twig Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 XFR's post seems to indicate a shiny MSTRY Mew could have been legal? So why isn't the save file being shared? are we sure the save isn't just BS? I mean, really I could download every Mew I can find on this site and others that is from that event, chuck them into a file and put it on the cartridge. Screenshots of the game prove nothing, what colour is the cart? When I received an event Pokemon from Gamestation, the cart was black and security sealed into the GBA SP they were using to distribute it. Just seems phony to me. Which GBA event are you speaking of that had a black distribution cart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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