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    Cool ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    Hexadecimal Converter: http://www.mathsisfun.com/binary-dec...converter.html

    ~Preston's Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, 85h, and 86h Values~
    Last updated: 10/09/09



    ~Which game uses these values?~
    On R/S/E/FR/LG/CO/XD, none of the hidden values are used. On D/P, only the 85h is used. On Platinum, 44h-47h and 85h are used. On HeartGold and SoulSilver, 44h-47h and 85h-86h are used.


    ~What are the values for a Pokemon that was migrated from Pal-Park?~
    D/P Migration: Set all values to 00
    Platinum/HG/SS Migration: Set 46h to 37 (Pal-Park in hexadecimal) and the rest to 00.

    ~What do the values mean?~
    44h and 45h are used for who you recieved the egg from in Platinum/HG/SS.
    46h and 47h are used for where the egg was hached at or where the Pokemon was caught at in Platinum/HG/SS.
    85h is used to determine how the Pokemon was caught/received in D/P/Pt/HG/SS
    86h is used to determine what Pokeball was used to capture the Pokemon in HG/SS

    ~Do the values change when you trade them to a different game?~
    Once a Pokemon's values have been determined by the game, they will never change. This means trading a Pokemon from Diamond to Platinum will keep its regular hex values from Diamond. There are exceptions for Pokemon eggs when they are traded.


    Finding the Values:

    44h and 45h
    44h and 45h will always be 00 if your Pokemon did not come from an egg.
    If you obtained your Pokemon as an egg, go to PokeSav and look for the decimal number of where the egg was received at. For example, my Riolu was received from Riley. Riley's decimal value is 2010. (The decimal number is shown in PokeSav right next to Riley.) Now I need to convert 2010 to hexadecimal. If you don't know how to convert, then just use the link at the top.

    2010 is 7DA in hex. Egg location and Met location are written from right to left in hex (called little endien).
    I'll rewrite 7DA to 07DA to make things easier.

    Since we have to read this from right to left, we need to break it in two and then flip the values.

    1. 07DA
    2. 07 DA
    3. DA 07

    So the 44h value will be DA and my 45h value will be 07.



    46h and 47h
    These are found just the same way as the egg locations. Find the decimal number for where your Pokemon was hatched or caught at in PokeSav. My Riolu hatched at Iron Island, and Iron Island is 69 in decimal. So now I just convert 69 into hexadecimal, and I get 45. (0045)

    Since we have to read this from right to left, we need to break it in two and then flip the values.

    1. 0045
    2. 00 45
    3. 45 00

    My 46h value is 45, and my 47h value is 00.




    85h
    85h Values are used in Diamond and Pearl too, along with Platinum.

    00 - Egg/Pal Park/Event/Honey Tree/Shaymin (D/P/Pt)
    02 - Tall Grass/Darkrai (D/P/Pt)
    04 - Dialga/Palkia (D/P/Pt)
    05 - Cave/Hall of Origin/Giratina (D/P/Pt)
    07 - Caught in the Water (D/P/Pt)
    09 - Caught in Buildings (D/P/Pt)
    17 - Distortion World (Giratina) (Pt)
    18 - Starter Pokemon/Bebe's Eevee/Fossil Pokemon (Pt)
    0A - Great Marsh/Safari Zone (D/P/Pt)
    0C - Starter Pokemon/Fossil Pokemon (D/P)



    My Riolu was in an egg, so my 85h would be 00.



    86h
    86h Values are used in HeartGold and SoulSilver only to determine the PokeBall. (Thanks to Wylfred for listing them out!) If there is an *, that means the normal Pokeball slot in Pokesav should be set to a Pokeball. Never set the normal Pokeball slot in Pokesav to any Apricorn balls.

    01 = Master Ball
    02 = Ultra Ball
    03 = Great Ball
    04 = Poke Ball
    05 = Safari Ball
    06 = Net Ball
    07 = Dive Ball
    08 = Nest Ball
    09 = Repeat Ball
    0A = Timer Ball
    0B = Luxury Ball
    0C = Premier Ball
    0D = Dusk Ball
    0E = Heal Ball
    0F = Quick Ball
    10 = Cherish Ball
    11 = Fast Ball*
    12 = Level Ball*
    13 = Lure Ball*
    14 = Heavy Ball*
    15 = Lovely Ball*
    16 = Friend Ball*
    17 = Moon Ball*
    18 = Compé Ball*


    My Riolu's Summary:
    44h: DA (Egg recieved from Riley)
    45h: 07 (Egg recieved from Riley)
    46h: 45 (Pokemon was hatched/caught at Iron Island)
    47h: 00 (Pokemon was hatched/caught at Iron Island)
    85h: 00 (Pokemon was hatched)
    86h: 00 (Pokemon was hatched on Pt, not HG/SS)

    All the other values you see on Pokesav should be 00. None of them have been used yet.



    The Giratina Factor
    Giratina, as well as any other Pokemon caught or hatched in a new Platinum, HeartGold, or SoulSilver location, are kind of tricky. This will show you how the game reads these new locations, and how to create them.

    First of all, these are the new locations added.


    112- Battle Frontier
    113- Battle Factory
    114- Battle Castle
    115- Battle Roulette
    116- Battle Stage
    117- Distortion World
    118- Global Terminal
    119- R.A House
    120- Match Place
    121- Rotom's Room
    122- Eterna Galactic HQ
    123- Iron Ruins
    124- Iceberg Ruins
    125- Rock Peak Ruins
    2011- Cynthia*

    (In Hex)
    7E - New Bark Town
    7F - Cherrygrove City
    80 - Violet City
    81 - Azelia Town
    82 - Cianwood City
    83 - Goldenrod City
    84 - Olivine City
    85 - Ecruteak City
    86 - Mahogany Town
    87 - Lake of Rage
    88 - Blackthorn City
    89 - Silver Cave
    8A - Pallet Town
    8B - Viridian City
    8C - Pewter City
    8D - Cerulean City
    8E - Lavender Town
    8F - Vermillion City
    90 - Celadon City
    91 - Fuchsia City
    92 - Cinnabar Island
    93 - Indigo Plateau
    94 - Route 1
    95 - Route 2
    96 - Route 3
    97 - Route 4
    98 - Route 5
    9A - Route 6
    9B - Route 7
    9C - Route 8
    9D - Route 9
    9E - Route 10
    9F - Route 11
    A0 - Route 12
    A1 - Route 13
    A2 - Route 14
    A3 - Route 15
    A4 - Route 16
    A5 - Route 17
    A6 - Route 18
    A7 - Route 19
    A8 - Route 20
    A9 - Route 21
    AA - Route 22
    AB - Route 23
    AC - Route 24
    AD - Route 25
    AE - Route 26
    AF - Route 27
    B0 - Route 28
    B1 - Route 29
    B2 - Route 30
    B3 - Route 31
    B4 - Route 32
    B5 - Route 33
    B6 - Route 34
    B7 - Route 35
    B8 - Route 36
    B9 - Route 37
    BA - Route 38
    BB - Route 39
    BC - Route 40
    BD - Route 41
    BE - Route 42
    BF - Route 43
    C0 - Route 44
    C1 - Route 45
    C2 - Route 46
    C3 - Route 47
    C4 - Route 48
    C5 - Diglett Cave
    C6 - Mt. Moon
    C7 - Cerulean Cave
    C8 - Rock Tunnel
    C9 - Power Plant
    CA - Safari Zone
    CB - Seafoam Islands
    CC - Sprout Tower
    CD - Tin Tower
    CE - Burnt Tower
    CF - National Park
    D0 - Radio Tower
    D1 - Ruins of Alph
    D2 - Union Cave
    D3 - Slowpoke Well
    D4 - Lighthouse
    D5 - Rocket Hideout (Mahogany Town)
    D6 - Ilex Forest
    D7 - Goldenrod Underground
    D8 - Mt. Mortar
    D9 - Ice Path
    DA - Whirl Islands (Lugia's Chamber)
    DB - Silver Mountain Cave
    DC - Dark Cave
    DD - Victory Road
    DE - Dragon's Den
    DF - Tohjo Falls
    E0 - Viridian Forest
    E1 - Pokéthlon Dome
    E2 - S.S. Aqua
    E3 - Safari Zone Gate
    E4 - Cliff Cave
    E5 - Frontier Front
    E6 - Path to Tin Tower
    E7 - Shinto Ruins
    E8 - Hidden Tower
    E9 - Pokéwalker
    EA - Cliff’s Gate
    *2011 is the Hall of Fame for D/P/Pt, but when read for where the egg was from, Pt regards it as Cynthia.


    Okay, these are the new locations. But how would Diamond and Pearl read these unknown areas? Nintendo came up with a "good" solution.

    Here's how to do it:

    The first step is to convert your location to hex. I'm gonna give an example of me hatching a Togepi in Rotom's Room.

    Rotom's Room is 121 in decimal, and 79 (0079)in hex.

    0079
    00 79
    79 00

    So 46h will be 79 and 47h will be 00.

    This is where most people screw up. If you are using a new location in Platinum, you must set the place you met at to 3002 (FarAwayPlace).

    When the game notices your Pokemon was caught in a Faraway place, it then looks at your 46h and 47h values. If they are both 00, then the game will simply show FarAwayPlace. If they have values, such as my Togepi here, your game will show the hex value location for where the Pokemon was caught.

    This way, if you trade Giratina or any Pokemon from a new location in Platinum, it will show up as FarAwayPlace on Diamond and Pearl. (D/P do not read the 46h/47h values at all.)

    Please respond with any questions you have, or any part that was confusing to you! I would love to help!
    If you have any Information that isn't up here, please tell me!

    Special Thanks to:
    damio
    Sabresite
    SCV
    ZMaster
    Xeomyr
    Wylfred
    Last edited by Preston; Dec 20th, 2009 at 05:01 PM.

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    Nicely done. Stickied as requested.

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    Nice to see you back Preston.

    Btw Preston, for 85h Dialga/Palkia (Platinum), its still the same 04. I caught both Dialga and Palkia in Platinum, and their 85h was 04, 46h was 33. Hope this helps.

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    Its great to be back! lol
    Thanks for the Dialga/Palkia info ZMaster! (I just caught them both today anyway lol)

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    Quote Originally Posted by Preston View Post
    Its great to be back! lol
    Thanks for the Dialga/Palkia info ZMaster! (I just caught them both today anyway lol)
    Oh, and Honey Tree is DEFINITELY 00 for 85h. In Platinum, that is.

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    hmm but how/where can you check for the decimal numbers of ALL the locations and people in sinnoh?

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    Quote Originally Posted by darkfaith View Post
    hmm but how/where can you check for the decimal numbers of ALL the locations and people in sinnoh?
    In the Pokesav pokemon edit menu, choose the location. There should be a # in the location box. Convert that number to hexidecimal.

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    would catching a Gastly in the lost tower be a example of of inside buildings (09)?

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaRay View Post
    would catching a Gastly in the lost tower be a example of of inside buildings (09)?
    I would say so.
    But I know for a fact that the Old Chateau is an example of inside a building.

    Preston, please edit your first post with this:
    Spoiler

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    To this:
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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    I was curious because when I caught a Gastly it shows up as route 209 but
    its actually the lost tower so i wouldnt know if i should of the 02 or 09

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    @above me
    =_= .. check the decimal value of the place in the pokesav
    and convert it into hex ..
    u can use window's scientific calculator to do that, it's very simple >_<

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    I think my question was misunderstood but I found an answer (looked in old forums).

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    Preston, this guide is perfect. Perfect in making me afraid of every single Gamefaqs hacker!

    But seriously. This helps me a lot in my hacking. I feel like a superior hacker now. Most Gamefaqs pokesavers will overlook this stuff.

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    Nice thing to note, the new Pt hexadecimal values will soon be placed in legality checkers (if not already) and it will be an excellent way to differentiate between a good hacker and a poor hacker.

    I would say, all experienced pokesavers should start putting in all these values regardless where the pokemon was said to come from for safety's sake.

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    Re: ~Guide to 44h, 45h, 46h, 47h, and 85h Values~

    Quote Originally Posted by Illithian View Post
    Nice thing to note, the new Pt hexadecimal values will soon be placed in legality checkers (if not already) and it will be an excellent way to differentiate between a good hacker and a poor hacker.
    Good. I'm afraid the Hex values will be the most-missed details. I wish the next version of Pokesav or Pokemod would automatically set the Hidden Values to their proper locations, but also have a setting where you can change them.

    But having the Legality checker ensure things is good as well.

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