Why is the new site worse than pokesav.org?

[Poryhack]

I'm sure not all of you think this is worse, but I have seen it several times over the last few days, and there's a pretty simple answer:

The site is not done. At this point even some of the things that may look done are not set in stone. But rest assured that we are working to get this site in even better shape than pokesav.org.

Why the big rush to move if the site isn't finished? There were several reasons, but the most influential in our decision to move early was our dislike of being under the Pokesav banner. While we will continue to be pretty much the site for Pokesav until the release of Pokemod, we don't especially like Pokesav. It has negative connotations that PP does not, we are not affiliated with the programmer and as such cannot do more than minor edits of the program, and it just is not what we want to be represented by.

So please, just bear with us for now. I assure you that Project Pokemon will be far greater than pokesav.org in due time.

[fenzo666]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[HottSushiz]

I don't mind at all, i just don't like the 30 second wait, and i know to prevent spam.

[coolbho3000]

Similarly, you'll see that we've relinquished use of the word "hacking" and "cheating" in official content. Although there's nothing really wrong with the term itself (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28computer_security%29#White_hat), it does have those negative connotations. Again, our community has gotten mature enough that we think it's time to expand now. With Project Pokemon, we want to build a more unified and comprehensive community, rather than limit our focus on just Pokesav.

We're just getting used to the Vbulletin way of doing things. The old forums were just a slightly customized phpbb theme anyway - it took very little effort to make the customizations on my part (although we did have some excellent banner work by Greencat). The same goes for the main site. We have some really talented people on our administration team now, so this site will definitely be looking better (and have more content) than Pokesav.org soon.

[Mr.Fuji]

Honestly, I always wondered why the site WAS called pokesav.org when no one knew who COM really was or anything, and when projects around the site definitely overshadowed the pokesav program itself. All in all, smart move, and here's to the future of a great Pokemon community :cool:

[DeadPool]

First of all, I'm really digging the sig Mr.Fuji.

Second of all, I'm enjoying the new site quite a bit, I'm just hoping I can keep up with the site and not stray away.

[drobb]

i actually am quite in love with the new site, BUT then again i was only one the old one for all of about a day before the change so i never really got a chance to fall in love with it. also i think this is way better since there are talented ppl here who are doing things to overshadow what pokesav is or will ever be.

[Turtlekid2]

Has it not been said multiple times already that the site is a work in progress?
I guess there are still some malcontents around...

[mewcuss]

I think that the site's name change is a great step forward.

The Pokesav name helped you build up an initial user base but also tarred you as a hacking/modding site/forum as well, even though you were/are much more than that.
I hope Project Pokemon is a great triumph and a worthy successor to Pokesav.

[RJFLA]

Over the past year Pokesav.org has shown people that you can modify files and make pokemon and make AR codes. But now the time has come to move on learn new things. New IRC channels, new forums. A lot more people can learn and prosper with pokemon.
I hope this new forum becomes better than Pokesav.org.

10/10 :)

[trae329]

I don't give a damn, the new site is fine. At least pokesav is still alive LOL.

trae329

[Arjun - PeeB4UGo]

Will Pokésav still be supported once PokéMod is released?

[Poryhack]

Thanks for the support everyone.


Will Pokésav still be supported once PokéMod is released?
No, I see no reason it should be.

[Chrono]

People resist change and things that are different. Over time and usage, they'll grow accostumed to this if they havent already.

[pokemonfan]

Change is a part of life people get over it! Some people are just bad at dealing with change others get over it pretty quickly. There is this great book about dealing with change called "Who moved my cheese" it sounds funny and it is but really it shows humans how they handle change. It isn't a good thing either. It is made for different ages too I would recommend it to people who are still having a problem with this change.

[ShinyMew]

My only problem with the site change is that it was hard finding where everything was moved to compared to where it was before.

[Tsubasa]

I don't mind , but like where all the update from pokesav ?

[jawsisra]

I would when the Pokemod is done make just one forum for the pokesav so people that still use it even after the pokemod is done will have a place to come and still get some help with it

[satoshiX]

I would when the Pokemod is done make just one forum for the pokesav so people that still use it even after the pokemod is done will have a place to come and still get some help with it
There's no reason for that. Once PokeMod is out, Pokesav will be 100% obselete.

Not only will PokeMod be better, it will be easier to use.

[Turtlekid2]

It is made for different ages too I would recommend it to people who are still having a problem with this change.

I would recommend that people grow up and stop whining.

[pokemonfan]

I would recommend that people grow up and stop whining.

That too, but who moved my cheese really gets you to laugh at yourself.

[mbruno]

Will pokemon use .pkm files and such, given that we have the database of .pkm files on the site?

[Mewtwo Ex]

To tell the truth, i do not dislike the new site i like that everything is in one spot sort of. Its a new feeling that`s all. I think it is all for good.

[Mystery100]

Well, i dont even know what Pokemod is so i dont rly care. But the new site ROCKS, dont listen to what the others say. ;)

[pokemonfan]

Well, i dont even know what Pokemod is so i dont rly care. But the new site ROCKS, dont listen to what the others say. ;)

Pokemod is sort of like the advanced Pokesav.

[Friendsxix]

I like the new site, except for the Forum Theme, which will be changed :) Thanks a bunch!
~Friendsxix

[pokemonfan]

Agreed the new site gives a better reputation to it once it has the content that will give it its reputation.

[damio]

Pokemod is sort of like the advanced Pokesav.
Not 'sort of'. It is in every way, better than Pokesav.

[pokemonfan]

I know that, but the sort of is just because some people might prefer pokesav because it is something they know. Plus I here that you are taking out a palparking feature or something like that. But I know that pokemod is going to be better based on what I've heard already from administrators.

[damio]

I know that, but the sort of is just because some people might prefer pokesav because it is something they know. Plus I here that you are taking out a palparking feature or something like that. But I know that pokemod is going to be better based on what I've heard already from administrators.
Go read the stickies, and judge for yourself.

[pokemonfan]

Well, didn't you get in an arguement with some other guy about Pokemod and the total irrelevance of pokesav once it comes out. Or am I mistaken I know I read it but maybe it was someone else.

[damio]

Well, didn't you get in an arguement with some other guy about Pokemod and the total irrelevance of pokesav once it comes out. Or am I mistaken I know I read it but maybe it was someone else.
No that wasn't me.

[pokemonfan]

Ok well I know there was an arguement

[drobb]

pokemod will surpass and make obsolete pokesav upon its release. it will probably do it upon its alpha and beta release really. i forsee that as soon as a public beta is made available (if there is one) or a final release, pokesav will scramble to try and patch/add the features implemented into pokemod.

[pokemonfan]

So let me get this straight...Project pokemon is not affiliated with Pokesav. So PP is releasing pokemod and the pokesav people are not. So if all of that is true this is a way for PP to get revenge on pokesav for all the negative connotations that pokesav has brought.
Is that how it is?

[damio]

No.
Project Pokemon is about Pokemon in general, including hacking it, but once Pokemod is released, there will no longer be any point to Pokesav, so we will not have to support it.

[drobb]

damio is right, pp is a general pokemon site. sabersite one of the mods is making pokemod, which will be better then pokesav. there will be forums and information about usage etc for pokemod, but the point of the site is not pokemod nor pokesav but as has been said just pokemon all around, the video games, tcg, anime, mange (i guess), movies, etc. as im not one of the mods i cant say for certain, but there may still be one board open for pokesav for those who will not change, but i hightly doubt it.

[The 4th Hokage]

I like the VB board integration [it is a much better board]. i hope you guys got it for free ;) As for the site i think it looks fine, a few things could be changed here or there. But i'm sure the ModCP makes things a lot easier for the mods. I do moderate on two forums that also use VB.

[lilmix74gd]

this site is on the come up as fenzo and poryhack told haters like GSD. pokesav.org now the projectpokemon will be the best what else can i say :D

[A Hacked Soul]

I like the new site name, I just miss my post count and rank XD

[Torte de Lini]

No.
Project Pokemon is about Pokemon in general, including hacking it, but once Pokemod is released, there will no longer be any point to Pokesav, so we will not have to support it.

What makes Pokemod so great?
What will Pokemod consist of? Will it even be able to make totally indistinguishable legal pokemon (Hex values and all?)

[Kaarosu]

What makes Pokemod so great?
What will Pokemod consist of? Will it even be able to make totally indistinguishable legal pokemon (Hex values and all?)
http://www.projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18
That should answer your question

[Torte de Lini]

Cheers mate, thanks.

I've made a few suggestions in there myself.

[Latias_Latios]

i dont care which. i liked the first one but whatev

[coolbho3000]

So let me get this straight...Project pokemon is not affiliated with Pokesav. So PP is releasing pokemod and the pokesav people are not. So if all of that is true this is a way for PP to get revenge on pokesav for all the negative connotations that pokesav has brought.
Is that how it is?

Let me get this straight. Project Pokemon is not simply affiliated with Pokesav.org, it is a superset (and the successor) of Pokesav.org. We are "the Pokesav people." We wouldn't want to get revenge on ourselves, now would we? :D

[Sir Xero]

Heh, I like the new site, compared to the older one. I don't see why people are so bad against this site, it is not that bad. Good job on it, I say.

Once again, (i have a similar post),
The skin we have now isn't that bad. More can be added sooner or later, I'm in no rush. And the site is under construction.... as the admins say.... and they are doing a pretty good job on my perspective. They do have lives themselves, so, I can wait.

As for the skins look... i don't mind it. It is simple, but not that bad.

Good job, admins and stuff, the new site is great.

[Kittani]

I lurked the Pokesav forums for a little bit... saw this and thought it was a different site that was just hosting Pokesav. Signed right up anyways. I'll lend what time and talents I do have to the show if you need anything. I've been a modder for years and a Pokemon Geneticist since the first games came out. I am particularly adept at UI and Document formatting and design. Technical Writing, Network Engineering, and Security are also some of my areas of subject interest.... ok... before this starts to sound like a resumee...

Cheers... :grog:

[supersniper]

This site is great but just not complete, yeah db.pokesave was well done, layout was perfect color scheme didn't hurt my eyes but this site has all that plus more, just give it time. you all are just used to the old site.

one thing i do have a problem with is that you cannot view old news on the main page once it's been bumped off... might want to fix that.

[pokemonfan]

Let me get this straight. Project Pokemon is not simply affiliated with Pokesav.org, it is a superset (and the successor) of Pokesav.org. We are "the Pokesav people." We wouldn't want to get revenge on ourselves, now would we? :D

Thanks, I was confused but now I understand. I appreciate the clarification.

[SCV]

one thing i do have a problem with is that you cannot view old news on the main page once it's been bumped off... might want to fix that.
I added a link to the News Article Archive in the main page.

[Gator]

Well, to be honest, the old site was..well..less..advanced, I like this site, its more advanced, easier to use, so on and so fourth. Either way, good job to whoever helped make it, lulz.

[supersniper]

I added a link to the News Article Archive in the main page.
Thank you.

[Longshot]

As long as the site has guides to using PokeSav (and eventually PokeMod) and a related forum, I'll be pretty much satisfied. I'm just really interested in learning about all of this - the site doesn't really matter.

[jm6863]

i dont get it this site is cool

[Poryhack]

This thread has served its purpose and is starting to get into the realm of encouraging useless posts. If there are any further comments create a thread in the feedback forum.