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Greencat
May 22nd, 2009, 06:28 PM
What do you think is going to happen with the introduction of Egg Pokemon? I'm wondering if they are going to pretend they haven't been discoved and/or give you Togpi or someother Pokemon OR maybe not even do it at all. What do you think?
wraith89
May 22nd, 2009, 06:32 PM
As in Bonsly and Munchlax and the likes? Probably. They did that in FR/LG... and it's Gamefreak we're talking about. Anything could happen. The fact that you need incense to breed the newer baby forms means they'll just put the incense out of reach or something.
randomspot555
May 22nd, 2009, 06:44 PM
I remember way back in Gen II, incest was programmed into the games so that those two Pokemon won't breed.
That was taken out in Gen 3.
Hmm.
wraith89
May 22nd, 2009, 08:52 PM
I remember way back in Gen II, incest was programmed into the games so that those two Pokemon won't breed.
That was taken out in Gen 3.
Hmm.
So was that why my two Electabuzzes were brimming with energy? I caught BOTH from the wild and couldn't understand why that happened. Is it dependent on similar IVs?
chycorita
May 22nd, 2009, 09:11 PM
Since Johto didn't have a regional dex, I think all the pokemon will be available...(With the incense)
AtomicGreymon
May 23rd, 2009, 12:18 AM
I don't think Greencat is necessarily talking about the Pokemon you need incense to breed.
But wasn't one of the main points at the beginning of the original Gold/Silver that you were sent on an errand to Mr. Pokemon's house to obain what was supposedly a Pokemon egg? The big deal at the time of the original release, was that Pokemon breeding and eggs was a totally new concept to both the gamer, and the game characters. For whatever reason, the various Pokemon Professors hadn't yet discovered that Pokemon can breed just like any other biological lifeform (duh, guys :P).
But now that Pokemon breeding is such an old concept for the people playing the game, it might make the beginning of the remake seem a bit odd, as we're all used to it; but the people in the game have never heard of Pokemon eggs before. At least, if the remake is done exactly as the original.
Illithian
May 23rd, 2009, 05:16 AM
Since Johto didn't have a regional dex, I think all the pokemon will be available...(With the incense)
Its almost guaranteed that Johto will have a regional dex in the remake.
Also, the omnipresence of egg pokemon is impossible for game freak to ignore; HGSS would lose huge popularity if you couldn't breed in it *cough* new egg moves */cough* among other things, and loss of popularity = loss of money. Game freak needs money atm, badly. They're more then willing to edit gen II to make us happy. And if they aren't, then they'll put in the orange islands like the Sevii islands in FR/LG. I might add that at one point, I never left the Sevii islands in Frlg, which seems kind of sad.
Greencat
May 23rd, 2009, 02:21 PM
Yeah, that's what I meant, TM2-Megatron. =/
I don't know where people got the incense idea.
I'm wonderign is how are they are going to introduce it this time. Last time, it was new, but after everyone knowing about it, what are they going to do?
FLOOTENKERP
May 23rd, 2009, 03:18 PM
I think they will just discover it once again. This should be in the speculation thread, shouldn't it? It's a simple question, not a sarcastic rhetorical question.
Klaatu
May 23rd, 2009, 05:30 PM
Finally, the inceses have an excuse for existing XD
To prevent you from breeding newer pre-evos till you get far enough.....
This really depens on how much they are willing to change the games. Considering Togepi it should be the same.
Greencat
May 23rd, 2009, 07:26 PM
I'm not talking about the Inceses. I already said this 2 times. >_>
Endless Eden
May 23rd, 2009, 07:31 PM
well it is a direct remake certain parts of the story will change(i think)but eggs should remain the same(the whole mr.pokemon thing)
Fallen
May 23rd, 2009, 07:33 PM
They'll probably just end up giving you an egg to avoid confusing the younger fan base.
Aarux
May 24th, 2009, 02:36 AM
They'll probably just give you an egg and say, "We've never seen this type of egg before." or "Eggs are rarely found in Johto, we'd like you to give this to Prof. Elm for examination." Or... something.
I don't think they'll pretend we don't know about eggs. :/
Mewtwo Ex
May 24th, 2009, 03:58 AM
They'll probably just give you an egg and say, "We've never seen this type of egg before." or "Eggs are rarely found in Johto, we'd like you to give this to Prof. Elm for examination." Or... something.
I don't think they'll pretend we don't know about eggs. :/
This sounds most likely. Game freak is probably going to do that to avoid the confusion as stated above.
FLOOTENKERP
May 24th, 2009, 01:19 PM
It's not a big deal. There's a guy in Hearthome City that says eggs were discovered in Johto. It would cause confusion not to rediscover the egg.
byronj
May 24th, 2009, 05:11 PM
They'll probably just give you an egg and say, "We've never seen this type of egg before." or "Eggs are rarely found in Johto, we'd like you to give this to Prof. Elm for examination." Or... something.
I don't think they'll pretend we don't know about eggs. :/
That could happen or maybe he'll say something that reminds old players and tells new players where the whole egg thing came from so they know how it started, at least thats what i think will happen.
FLOOTENKERP
May 24th, 2009, 08:35 PM
Or they will stick to the original plot. It's really not that big of a deal, how much confusion could it cause?
Aarux
May 25th, 2009, 12:05 AM
Uhh... if I never played G/S/C and knew what Eggs were by playing games that came out later, and got HG/SS, I'd be confused.
If Nintendo put that the game took place a long time before eggs were found, then maybe... just maybe it'd work.
ZMaster
May 25th, 2009, 09:11 AM
They'll probably just give you an egg and say, "We've never seen this type of egg before." or "Eggs are rarely found in Johto, we'd like you to give this to Prof. Elm for examination." Or... something.
I don't think they'll pretend we don't know about eggs. :/
I agree. I bet they'll question on what is in the egg, rather than what is the egg itself.
FLOOTENKERP
May 25th, 2009, 12:49 PM
Uhh... if I never played G/S/C and knew what Eggs were by playing games that came out later, and got HG/SS, I'd be confused.
If Nintendo put that the game took place a long time before eggs were found, then maybe... just maybe it'd work.
What would cause more confusion is to have a guy say that a scientist in Johto discovered the Pokémon egg, and have no discovery at all. And if a kid never heard of Johto, then it would cause more confusion for the hiker to tell you about Johto in the first place. See where I'm going at? This is a remake; Why not rediscover the famous Togepi egg?
Aarux
May 25th, 2009, 12:55 PM
That's just my opinion on what should happen.
Rediscovering it would be fine, I just find it pretty stupid since we already know what an egg is.
Purely... opinion.
Mewtwo Ex
May 25th, 2009, 01:20 PM
However this is a remake.
pokemonfan
May 25th, 2009, 01:28 PM
Ok, I never played G/S/C but from what it looks like I think this should happen...
They should give you an egg, say that pokemon eggs were discovered a long time ago by a scientist in Johto, tell you that pokemon eggs are rare and wonderful things, and that the full extent of pokemon breeding remains unknown to pokemon professors. Then you run off happily ever after with your pokemon egg.
Aarux
May 25th, 2009, 01:34 PM
Ok, I never played G/S/C but from what it looks like I think this should happen...
They should give you an egg, say that pokemon eggs were discovered a long time ago by a scientist in Johto, tell you that pokemon eggs are rare and wonderful things, and that the full extent of pokemon breeding remains unknown to pokemon professors. Then you run off happily ever after with your pokemon egg.
Yeah... that sounds about right.
Mr. Pokemon (That's his name, right?) is the one who discovered them. I think.
FLOOTENKERP
May 25th, 2009, 01:42 PM
No. He provided the egg, Elm discovered it was a Pokémon egg.
Aarux
May 25th, 2009, 01:51 PM
Oh. Got it.
Kinda makes you think, though, is it that hard to figure out whether it's a Poke Egg or not? Seeing as Pokemon are basically the only animals in the game... :/
FLOOTENKERP
May 25th, 2009, 01:54 PM
Ahh, I knew you were going to say that. I couldn't believe it when I heard it, but animals are actually in the series. On the boat episode, underwater there were actual normal fish. It's pretty strange.
Aarux
May 25th, 2009, 01:58 PM
You did?
Wow. I'm gonna have to look that up sometime, just to see the fish. If there's normal animals, that means they don't eat Miltanks or Magikarps. Yesh.
Anyways... back on topic, either Nintendo will rediscover the egg, or they'll end up just giving you one. Like Cynthia or Riley.
FLOOTENKERP
May 25th, 2009, 02:02 PM
Here's what I think; If Nintendo put a hiker in Hearthome to tell you about the discovery in Johto, then it might have been an indication to the remake having the egg discovery again. If a child has never heard of Johto, then having a hiker confuse kids by mentioning it would be as confusing as rediscovering the egg, because kids will think Johto is a new region, and a new game can't discover something from an old game.
Greencat
May 29th, 2009, 06:32 PM
Mh, that's true Floot. I noticed that too. Jasmine was in DPP as well and stated "Oh no. I don't live here. I live faraway in the Jhoto region."
FLOOTENKERP
May 29th, 2009, 06:36 PM
So I'm sure they will rediscover the egg. Indications are pretty obvious. I'm hoping they don't screw around with the discovery though. The discovery was perfect the way it was :).
bear831
May 29th, 2009, 09:27 PM
Sorry I forgot but they might have to think of a way to implement the incense.
Well it wasn't explained how they discovered that it worked to uncover new baby pokemon. Maybe they will in this game.
FLOOTENKERP
May 29th, 2009, 09:31 PM
True. I guess they have a lot of stuff to think about to perfect this game.
InuYouki
May 30th, 2009, 03:31 AM
I think they will change the story up a little. This may be a remake, but this isn't the first time eggs have seen. Heck we had them in FR/LG and they weren't in the originals! So the way eggs where discovered in the original would just be plain stupid in my honest opinion and I have been with pokemon since day one *old fart of 22 here haha*
Remakes are just that. A remake. It is NEVER %100 percent true to the original or it wouldn't be a remake, it would be a re release. If you want the OLD G/S get out your old one and play. If the battery died replace it. HG/SS are NOT going to be an exact copy of G/S plain and simple.
And Floot, your making kids way to stupid just for the sake of your "nostalgia" you always go on about. The only thing that wouldn't make sense would be to make it the old way and not some new way. Acting like eggs never existed before even though we have them in EVER OTHER GAME including FR/LG would be the dumbest thing in GameFreak history. Even kids who haven't played G/S because they were younger still know what Johto is :/
codemonkey85
May 30th, 2009, 06:16 AM
For whatever reason, the various Pokemon Professors hadn't yet discovered that Pokemon can breed just like any other biological lifeform (duh, guys :P).
In Solaceon Town, there is an NPC who will tell you that "no one has ever seen a Pokémon lay an egg, so no one knows if they actually do lay eggs". Supposedly something could just be leaving the eggs there.
Yeah.
I know.
:S
FLOOTENKERP
May 30th, 2009, 06:08 PM
I think they will change the story up a little. This may be a remake, but this isn't the first time eggs have seen. Heck we had them in FR/LG and they weren't in the originals! So the way eggs where discovered in the original would just be plain stupid in my honest opinion and I have been with pokemon since day one *old fart of 22 here haha*
Remakes are just that. A remake. It is NEVER %100 percent true to the original or it wouldn't be a remake, it would be a re release. If you want the OLD G/S get out your old one and play. If the battery died replace it. HG/SS are NOT going to be an exact copy of G/S plain and simple.
And Floot, your making kids way to stupid just for the sake of your "nostalgia" you always go on about. The only thing that wouldn't make sense would be to make it the old way and not some new way. Acting like eggs never existed before even though we have them in EVER OTHER GAME including FR/LG would be the dumbest thing in GameFreak history. Even kids who haven't played G/S because they were younger still know what Johto is :/
I never said I wanted this to be a 100% faithful remake. I said that I wanted the game to at least stay faithful to the story, but change it around a little, sort of like Fire Red and Leaf Green. And if a kid was never able to play the Johto games and started playing a game that already has eggs, wouldn't they be confused that someone told them the discovery took place in Johto? Especially since it happens to be the upcoming game which will cause even more confusion making kids think this is a new region. Not all kids starting off at any random Pokémon game is going to know there was a Johto. Wouldn't it make more sense to rediscover the egg? Maybe even add a few details on baby Pokémon that are born when the parents are holding an item.
pennypenny123
Jun 4th, 2009, 04:26 PM
They wouldn't do that. This is TODAY. Not 10 years ago.
FLOOTENKERP
Jun 4th, 2009, 04:41 PM
Fire Red and Leaf Green were made after Gold and Silver. Gold and Silver took place three years after Red and Blue. They tore down the mimic girl's house for a magnet train station. Where was that in the remakes? The remakes did not utilize the train station, which must mean these were FAITHFUL REMAKES. Like I said, there will obviously be major changes to storyline, but it will stay faithful to the story.
InuYouki
Jun 9th, 2009, 07:31 AM
I still say they wont rediscover the eggs. Like Penny said, this isn't ten years ago. It seems so stupid to discover something that has already been discovered. All they need to say instead of "hey we have no idea what this is blah blah" they say " we found a pokemon egg, but don't know whats inside. BTW did you know pokemon eggs where discovered here?" There confusion ended.
FLOOTENKERP
Jun 9th, 2009, 10:03 AM
Hmm, due to the fact that Elm gave you the egg that was discovered, I still think confusion will linger on. Rediscovery would be fine.
Greencat
Jun 13th, 2009, 04:45 PM
Mhh, I wonder if it will still be a Togepi or maybe it will be a Pichu. ;D
Possibly Notched Ear Pichu Forme in the egg?
FLOOTENKERP
Jun 13th, 2009, 06:27 PM
Nah, I'm sure it will be Togepi. To obtain the Notch eared Pichu, you have to have the Shokotan Pichu, or the event would mean nothing.
AlbinoDrow
Jun 14th, 2009, 11:39 PM
I highly doubt there will be confusion even amongst little kids about HGSS being a new game vs a remake. Everywhere it says Heart Gold and Soul Silver are remakes of the old versions. What I'm really going to be interested in is how in the friggen world is Cynthia walking around in Jhoto? Its gotta be some Dialga event since she is not in that timeline, unless they say its Cynthia as a kid (which in the anime she looks around 20 ish so it could be her when she was younger).
I'm guessing they will say something like 'We're not sure what is in this egg' 'Eggs where discovered here in Jhoto' etc etc. If they act like its years before Sinnoh yet we can still go on WiFi and battle/trade with plat without the magical time traveling device Bill makes there might be too much confusion, unless like in the FRLG remakes they pull a 'well we cant trade with PCs far away so we gotta do an update'. Perhaps Bill will make his time traveling trading and battling machine and thus unlock HGSS WiFi so we can comminucate with games 'from the future'.
If they do pull a 'We have no clue what this is!' line and hand me an egg, I'm going to crack it open on their face and show them the pokemon fetus. Perhaps the professors just beleived pokemon reproduced asexually, and the genders of them were just for kicks?
Then again in the Power of One movie when 'all the pokemon in the world are gathering here' yet every one of them was Kanto pokemon (Which made me laugh), or how Paul went through Jhoto with a Turtwig, Paul watched a battle with a Hoenn fronteir brain with his Turtwig.
Though a lot of this is solved by pointing to Dialga and Palkia and say 'They brought Cynthia here' or 'They have allowed you (the trainer) to go back in time and stop Team Rocket in Jhoto'.
Then again I think most people will agree that Team Rocket is petty compaired to Team Galatic who plot to destroy the universe...
"By Arceus they cut off a Slowpoke's Tail and sold it to a guy!"
vs
"Umm, wait... You're going to destroy the universe and become a god?"
Team Rocket better be doing something better then the standard Bidoof Abuse if I'm going to travel back in time to stop them. Heck I could be bringing my own Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina out on Mt Cornet and becoming a god myself then waste time on those losers... Though due to Jhoto being my favorite region of all time, I will get the remakes even if the Professors can be replaced by a 10 year old kid.
DanteKoriyu
Jun 15th, 2009, 12:08 AM
AlbinoDrow, you seem to be confused on the Pokemon timeline. FRLG take place at roughly the same time as RSE, and DPPt take place at roughly the same time as HGSS. There is no problem with Cynthia being in Johto as she is. The opening of Diamond and Pearl shows a news report on the Red Gyarados of Johto, so the events of DPPt start sometime shortly after the halfway mark of the main story of Johto.
I'm sure they'll work around the egg introduction, as you said and probably talk about how they discovered eggs in johto, but they had never seen one like this specific one before.
BTW, Anime-wise, the Frontier Brains were in Kanto. =P
FLOOTENKERP
Jun 15th, 2009, 09:12 AM
I'm not sure what they are going to do with the egg discovery, but since Cynthia gave you a Togepi in the game, then they can't have a rediscovery, since Cynthia is from a newer generation. I wonder what they are going to do with it.
DanteKoriyu
Jun 15th, 2009, 09:22 AM
But DPPt takes place AFTER HGSS, so she could have brought two of the "Mystery" eggs back with her from her Johto trip. 1 for the player, and 1 for her team.
Guested
Jun 16th, 2009, 04:19 PM
The official site has stated that HG/SS is a sequel to FR/LG and takes place three years later.
There were eggs in FR/LG.
I don't think it'll be much of a discovery.
AlbinoDrow
Jun 16th, 2009, 05:17 PM
My guessed timeline and theories:
Red, Blue (Or Green), Yellow started the Pokemon world. Not many things were known, like breeding, training, etc, but people still had the basic understanding of getting a pokemon from the wild and training it to obey,
Gold, Silver, Crystal happened 3 years after RBY where there was the discovery of eggs and pokemon breeding. Trainers now understood how to breed pokemon to get baby forms, or pass on moves. The Pokevirus was also discovered sometime around here, along with Trainers having their Pokemon hold berries. Unique pokeballs were created and used.
Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald happened on a close timeline of GSC. Perhaps a few years afterwards where new pokeballs, breeding, and such were now frequently used by trainers. The discovery of powerful legendary pokemon created cults (Team Magma and Aqua) where they tried to catch the legendary for their own use. Sadly a new trainer beat them with ease and shot down the ill planned ideas before they ruined the world by getting Rayquaza to rebalance the world of earth and water and send the raging legends back to sleep (where soon afterwards the lone trainer went and caught them for personal use).
FireRed and LeafGreen, as remakes happened along the same timeline of RBY, with a few changes that could have easily happend in the pokemon world (New E4, etc). Trainers could have their pokemon hold berries (which were actually quite hard to get in FRLG since there was no time or areas to plant them) but it wasnt until the discovery of hold item uses was this very popular. My theory is that before the discovery a few people did watch wild pokemon hold things and occasionally use them in battle, so had their own pokemon do the same.
It wasnt until the Islands Opened up (which happens after the E4) fully where there was a day care center for trainers to leave 2 pokemon at. My theory is that durring the lone trainer travels, different from the RBY lone trainer's, this trainer knew more about pokemon (thus hold items) though didnt know too much about breeding until the grand discovery. A theory here would be that it took a few years for this trainer to not only beat all 8 gyms and defeat the E4, but also complete Bill's machine to link with trainers in RSE where Hoenn was just starting to boom. After the link and team rocket finally being put down for rest in Kanto the trainer could then devote time to pokemon breeding if desired.
Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum was a time of trouble for the Pokemon world. Breeding was now a staple part of Pokemon training, specialized training was also at an all time high (EV training), and there were new devices used for it. Training items (power items) were expensive, but highly skilled trainers could buy them after proving themselves worthy. (perhaps the power items are dangerous and it takes a skilled trainer to use them?)
Different formes of rare pokemon were discovered by a few, and pokemon started to evolve into newer stronger species (perhaps due to the climate giving them a need to get stronger? It is cold with a huge mountain range in the middle). Pokemon became stronger in new ways, and old weak pokemon showed signs of great strength (physical/special split) though some pokemon were not able to adapt well.
Team Galatic strived to rid the world of evil, though due to corruption and the lone trainer their plan became faulty. Thanks to other legendary pokemon their plan was stopped and they reformed to seeking new forms of energy for everyone. (This time I'm sure the lone trainer didnt really need to stop Team Galatic. Giratina popped up in Platinum and took care of things fine, and the lake guardians stopped the destruction of the universe by holding Dialga and Palkia's powers back)
Heart Gold and Soul Silver will probably be along the same lines as remakes as GSC, though again like in FRLG there will be some changes. I'm guessing since the discovery of eggs breeding boomed into such as it is today, it will not be a rediscovery of eggs but rather a recap of 'they were discovered as pokemon eggs here in Jhoto' to teach the new trainer what they are and how to utilize breeding. They said the timeline starts 3 years after FRLG and since in my theory FRLG was already beginning to understand breeding, though few knew how to use it well (it was still near where most people who played had no clue how to breed effectively) so now like in DPPT breeding will be fairly usual along with specialized training. Again, only top trainers know how to do such (notice that all NPC trainers do NOT, and only trainers such as those who play the game do it and even some of them dont know how to do it very well or even have no clue).
Maybe they will give you a Togepii egg or a baby pokemon egg just to recap the discovery and teach new trainers how to take care of baby pokemon? If you think about it, the NPC trainers sometimes have baby pokemon so they could have gotten one from Mr Pokemon or the Professor to help in discovering more about them. Though if they do say 'Oh we dont know what this is at all' then at least they are trying to be faithful, though confusing thousands in the process. I hope they just say 'we're not sure what is in this egg' or 'we dont know what pokemon egg this is' since if you think about it baby pokemon are fairly rare to see on trainers. And Togepii is really rare since there are not many in the wild (even the pokedex says Togekiss is rare, Togetic and Togepi usually stay away from trainers thus you dont see them in the wild). So a Togepi egg would be fine since its a rare sight in the pokemon world.
As for the NPC world vs Our Real Life WiFi world, yes we know more then them and even the professors. We have tools to extract information, the knowledge of breeding that actually came from us (no NPC discovered its use. We found out more about it ourselves. Yes it was programmed into the game but there were no official guides on how to breed), and we can catch legendaries because we know where to look. We know how to breed rare pokemon, how to train stronger pokemon, and even get legendaries to obey us because we are the true top trainers. We all defeated the champion at some point, we beat the gyms and E4, and we discovered what makes a pokemon really strong.
......
WALL OF TEXT ATTACK!!!
FLOOTENKERP
Jun 16th, 2009, 05:27 PM
It isn't really a necessity to the game, but he did make a big deal out of it. You received it from Mr. Pokemon, and when you brought it to Elm, he freaked out. Then he calls you to go receive it. If the game is supposed to be after the original, then why would the radio tower be invaded again? Why would team rocket try to bring the team back again? This game can't take place in the future, but I do believe they will do something about the egg part.
AlbinoDrow
Jun 16th, 2009, 05:41 PM
Maybe it takes part just slightly after GSC? Like a few months perhaps.
GSC was still home to many new trainers. The GSC trainer was pretty new, and so were we at that time. Maybe Team Rocket also got stronger and thought they could get the boss back if they invaded again or it is a new sect of Team Rocket thinking they can get the failed plans to work?
I think Mr Pokemon will still give you an egg to take to Elm, and he may freak out (because he does seem panicy) about it being a rare discovery. He'll want to study it, then call you because he does not have the skills to hatch it.
Pokemon eggs are said to be rare in game, though not so much to us (the top trainers). Even in the anime eggs are rare and only a few people know how to hatch them properly (if you notice, everyone with an egg about to hatch panics and runs to the nearest PokeCentre to make sure it hatches ok, minus the togepi hatch since team rocket interrupted the whole thing). There are very few daycares that take care of eggs (there isnt one in the in game kanto. It was either in Jhoto or the islands where you could get an egg) and the NPCs who are repeatedly silly and ignorant dont know much at all. Even the professors only know of their specialty (I think Oak is general and pokemon species, Rowan is evolution, Birch is wild pokemon and field research, and Elm I guess is eggs though he doesnt have the tools nessisary to hatch and raise them so he relies on strong trainers like us)
FLOOTENKERP
Jun 16th, 2009, 05:43 PM
I repeat, why would team rocket make a repeat of the same thing a few months after the last time they did it? Why would you re-do your entire adventure a few months after completing it? This is a remake, not the future. That is why I believe they will remake the egg discovery.
Guested
Jun 16th, 2009, 05:50 PM
I'm not sure what they are going to do with the egg discovery, but since Cynthia gave you a Togepi in the game, then they can't have a rediscovery, since Cynthia is from a newer generation. I wonder what they are going to do with it.
Cynthia has already been shown to be in the game.
You yourself keep preaching that this is a remake, so you need to realize that GF can do whatever the hell they want with it. And for those of you saying this or that "wouldn't make sense," think about all the things GF and TPC have done in the past that didn't make sense, yet the games still sold by the boatload.
AlbinoDrow
Jun 16th, 2009, 06:00 PM
Cynthia has already been shown to be in the game.
You yourself keep preaching that this is a remake, so you need to realize that GF can do whatever the hell they want with it. And for those of you saying this or that "wouldn't make sense," think about all the things GF and TPC have done in the past that didn't make sense, yet the games still sold by the boatload.
lol so true
This is also why I might be quitting Pokemon after the remakes unless they bring out something made of pure genious and inspiration for the 5th gen.
If they do rediscover it, anyone who played the old games will like it because they are being faithful. If they recap the discovery and say they just simply dont know everything about eggs it would lead to less confusion since most people who play pokemon know what an egg is.
It can go either way depending on what GF decides on. Less confusion for the younger crowd who never played GSC, or a fan pleasing remake for the older crowd who have played GSC. Though with how the anime is also going both ways (sometimes pretty serious for a kid's show, then sometimes blatenly simple for the little kids) its up in the air. Either way I'm getting the remakes since Jhoto is and will forever be my favorite region.
And when it comes for timeline, it will always be confusing.
If they can do whatever the hell they want, and if they have done confusing things before, then why the hell are we debating what they are going to do with the egg discovery if they can do whatever they want?
Because its amusing to see other's thoughts on it.
With your reasoning there, if GF can do whatever they want then why do we even ask these questions? GF can just make a pokemon game to be on a timeline before RBY and have everything new in it if they want, though thats unlikely.
We ask because we want to see other's views on it, debate, and perhaps find out why GF will do what they do. Its socializing.
I can do whatever I want too, so why do I edit the Wiki page or talk here? Its fun. Simple as that.
FLOOTENKERP
Jun 16th, 2009, 06:08 PM
Could it be possible that Cynthia could have been in Johto in the original games, and then gotten the egg and gave it to you in Sinnoh? She could have been in the game all along.
AlbinoDrow
Jun 16th, 2009, 06:19 PM
The timelines of Sinnoh and Jhoto are supposed to be similar, so perhaps, but if you got it in Jhoto how would she get it? It would explain how she got her Togekiss and gave us one in Sinnoh. How about this?
Cynthia got the first Togepi egg in the games. She hatched it, raised it into Togetic then left it at the Daycare for a while. The Day Care people then found the egg, didnt know what to do with it and gave it to Mr Pokemon (I think I remember him saying the Day Care gave it to him) since he is well known for his discoveries (speculation). Mr Pokemon decided to meet with Oak near Cherrygrove. Oak and Mr Pokemon decided to call Elm since he is the professor of Jhoto, so he asked you (GSC) to go get what Mr Pokemon had for him. When you got back, he freaked saying it was a Pokemon egg or w/e, then gave it to you later through his assistant to hatch.
Durring which Cynthia got back her Togetic, went back to Sinnoh, and evolved togetic into Togekiss. She heard the news of Pokemon Eggs shortly and decided to try her hand at breeding. When she met you (Plat) she decided you would be able to take care of the egg and the Pokemon inside better since she was always buisy with Champion stuff.
Thus how the Togepi egg was discovered accidently by Cynthia though Elm claims the discovery for himself!
FLOOTENKERP
Jun 16th, 2009, 07:02 PM
Elm researched it and discovered it was a Pokemon egg. I'm sure no one knew what it was.
Relyte
Jun 16th, 2009, 08:17 PM
I suppose that they could have you deliver multiple eggs to professor Elm, then, while he's looking at it, Cynthia comes in and asks for one to help her or Professor Rowan's research
Guested
Jun 17th, 2009, 06:48 AM
I think your ideas for a possible story-line regarding this are moot.
I'll say it again:
Pokemon eggs were in FireRed and LeafGreen which Heart Gold and Soul Silver are a sequel to.
These games are not sequels to Red, Green and Blue like the original games were. They are sequels to FireRed and LeafGreen.
FLOOTENKERP
Jun 18th, 2009, 06:22 PM
Remember Guested, in every game whenever you receive an egg, they don't know what it is or how it got there. So that leaves the rediscovery possible. Maybe in this game, the rediscovery will finally stop that, "Where did this egg come from?" nonsense.
.:Loky:.
Jun 25th, 2009, 11:46 PM
I think that they will act like the story takes place X amount of years after the orginal Gold and Silver games, they "kind of" did this in Leafgreen and Firered by mentioning a few times of someone who had done great things before you. This then would explain why Cynthia is present and Sinnoh and Hoenn pokemon are present. But yes I think eggs will be in this game, but they will not be put forward towards the player as a 'new' function.
InuYouki
Jun 26th, 2009, 02:14 PM
Remember Guested, in every game whenever you receive an egg, they don't know what it is or how it got there. So that leaves the rediscovery possible. Maybe in this game, the rediscovery will finally stop that, "Where did this egg come from?" nonsense.
That has been there since day one and will always be there. Maybe in Japanese they may say about the pokemon making the egg, but never in English. That would be TMI for the children of America >.>
And like I have been saying from the start and like Guested has said. They had eggs in FR/LG and not to mention RSE and DPPt so why would there be a need to "rediscover" something that is already there. So redundant.
RSE is supposed to take place around the same time as FR/LG and DPPt is supposed to take place around the same time as HG/SS. So again, I ask WHY would you discover something that is already there?
FLOOTENKERP
Jun 26th, 2009, 06:43 PM
Wrong, HG and SS are sequels of FR and LG. They take three years past Kanto in gen III. I'm just saying, this discovery was at least important, so it would make more sense for them to rediscover it, but with a little twist. Maybe they will release the news on TV, in which the daycares will watch and now know how and where eggs come from. That will finally stop the "Where did this egg come from?" stuff. It seems at least a little possible, because none of the games seem to know what eggs are and where they came from. Understand?
Guested
Jun 26th, 2009, 06:47 PM
Maybe it won't be a discovery. Maybe it'll just be Elm trying to dig deeper into the research of this "mystery" of how eggs magically appear from Pokemon.
FLOOTENKERP
Jun 26th, 2009, 08:28 PM
Wait, how would that work? So you go to Mr. Pokemon's house, you get another egg, you give it to Elm, he uses it for further research continuing from the research he got from the other egg that was also received by Mr. Pokemon, and then he gives it back and you have a Togepi? Couldn't it be much more simple if they just made a rediscovery that will put an end to the questions of where eggs came from and how they got there?
InuYouki
Jun 26th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Guested's idea makes more sense. Furthering the research of something that is already there makes more sense then pretending it never existed to rediscover it.
Fawful Of Ice
Jul 4th, 2009, 08:33 PM
Guested's idea makes more sense. Furthering the research of something that is already there makes more sense then pretending it never existed to rediscover it.
Very true,InuYouki;33917,I think that instead of a togipi egg, though, The Research Aid might give you a GEN IV Pokemon. I hope the Eggs are not all white(white) and green, but each pokemons Egg has a different design.:smile::smile::D:O)
ArseusEater
Jul 5th, 2009, 02:02 PM
I remember way back in Gen II, incest was programmed into the games so that those two Pokemon won't breed.
That was taken out in Gen 3.
Hmm.
lol really? hah! But baby pokemon are probaby going to be ones who are underappreciated, dunspace, etc etc those kinds of pokemon. They need it. It's another way to promote another pokemon, like nintendo going "So i herd u liek piplupz" or something
FLOOTENKERP
Jul 6th, 2009, 04:50 PM
Guested's idea makes more sense. Furthering the research of something that is already there makes more sense then pretending it never existed to rediscover it.
Furthering research on something that was never discovered in the first place is more confusing, and pretending the first discovery never took place is even more confusing. I don't know what they will do, but my best bet is on re-discovering it simply because this is a remake. Can't it just be a complete discovery this time so that way we will finally know everything about an egg in the game?
Guested
Jul 6th, 2009, 05:10 PM
Can't it just be a complete discovery this time so that way we will finally know everything about an egg in the game?
No, because this is a sequel to FireRed and LeafGreen where eggs were already present.
They'll most likely want to delve deeper into the "mystery" of why the eggs just mysteriously appear.
FLOOTENKERP
Jul 6th, 2009, 05:17 PM
I already mentioned that no one knows what eggs are and where they came from. It can easily just be answering that question. It still makes sense.
Guested
Jul 6th, 2009, 05:19 PM
Right. Everyone has mentioned that quite a few times.
And that makes much more sense than discovering the eggs for the first time like back in GSC.
FLOOTENKERP
Jul 6th, 2009, 05:21 PM
Well since this isn't a sequel to the original games, it makes more sense to not have a redicovery, but a discovery since there was no discovery in the past. Eggs may alreadt be present in FR and LG, but it doesn't mean they fully understand eggs.
Guested
Jul 6th, 2009, 05:26 PM
I think we're saying the same thing...
FLOOTENKERP
Jul 6th, 2009, 05:28 PM
Oh, sorry. I thought you were using sarcasm. Sorry about that. I'm glad, I loved the discovery. It was one of my most favorite parts in the game. If they took that away it would just crush me. I wonder if Cynthia will play a role in the discovery as well in this new game.
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