Invader TAK

9 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

Question came up, whether the terminators were checked as well..
I'm going to check soon.

Edit:
Right now, it appears the terminators aren't really checked.
I've had a few different ones, unnicknamed, retyped the OT, and it passed. odd.

So you can literally gen one that easily, that's hilarious. Now is it possible to mod Restore Points into a Gen 1 CIA so we can send infinite Mews like they did at the Japan and UK events?

So considering PokeTransporter checks for Mews with the OT ゲーフリ or GF and the TID 22796, then any other English VC Mews would have to be identical to the UK one. At least that makes it easy for people to make their own VC Mew saves (which I did just now).

EDIT: Looking through the topic and seeing they used a special version of the game with Restore Points, it might be able to be replicated in the normal games (patch in the Restore Points and the GF option on the Name Select, then play normally until getting the Pokedex, then inject or trade for the Mew and make a restore point in front of the Cable Club). Since the Mews are identical anyway, it'd have the same effect.

1 minute ago, Deoxyz said:

It wouldn't work with a Japanese Emerald anyway since that ROM is specifically for FRLG, not Emerald.

They don't seem to be restricted by region exactly, but by language. I'm pretty sure European English games and US English games have the same rom, so region specific wondercards aren't blocked if received by an English game from the other region. I know Japanese games won't receive English wondercards, so likely the same case vice-versa, but I'm not 100% positive about other European languages. I don't think it works though. I couldn't cross distribute the Mimic e-Reader events from the German Debug Ruby to an English Ruby.

Yeah, but I'm thinking Japanese FRLG would ignore the English distro as well.

4 hours ago, Sabresite said:

Can someone confirm that trading an egg changes the name of the pokemon in gen 3? I don't remember this happening at all whether hatched or not.
Also the sav file is US/English.

I know GoldUrsaring used tools, so I suppose its possible it was injected.  Or, it is possible to receive the WC on a japanese game and it was traded to the US game.  I just was wondering if we knew whether or not WC's in gen 3 had region restrictions or not, thats all.

I did try the recently released Aurora Ticket distro ROM with my Japanese Emerald, which didn't even detect the signal. I don't have a Japanese FR or LG to test, though.

Considering this has expanded to researching all the Gen 3 generation algorithms, I decided to rename the topic to reflect that.

4 minutes ago, YoshiMoshi said:

I think I read on post in beginning of the topic that someone had the 10 ANNIV rom 3 years ago? How come u didn't share with the world? And what's that jirachi undistributed that we sW1 earlier. From what cart is that on?

They were afraid bootlegs would get out. Of course, it doesn't matter now.

As for that Jirachi, I have no idea where it comes from. People have found multiboot distros hidden in plenty of other games (and distros).

On 12/31/2016 at 4:59 PM, Ammako said:

Yeah, like they're not completely legit since they were never released, but they're not completely hacked either since Nintendo themselves made them.

GAMESTP Celebi was a really interesting one since it wasn't meant to be given out, but people got it legitimately anyway (if Nintendo considers changing the date on the distribution DSes as legitimate, lol.)

I always figured it WAS meant to be given out, but Nintendo of America decided push up the start date for the Gen 4 Celebi event which meant they needed new carts.

Just now, HaxAras said:

I get that part. But is it a temporary thing? If I trade it to another game or power down my game or whatever, would I have to use another cap later. Or is it a permanent addition to my Pokemon like Pokerus, a ribbon or a shiny crown?

I think it's permanent. I should gen a Pokemon, then PKHeX some Bottle Caps in and test that.

4 minutes ago, HaxAras said:

Are bottle caps a permanent increase to stats? I have those Colosseum E-reader mons and a 5IV shiny Feebas. It would be cool to make Feebas perfect and those Colo mons not suck. 

 

What about gen 3, 4, 5 and 6 though? Couldn't the 10th anniversary Pokemon be used as Battle Tower mons?

Yes, as long as they weren't banned Pokemon to begin with. So no Ho-Oh, Luigia, Celebi or Deoxys (there was a period in 2006 where it was given away at Space Center Houston).

Also, I believe Bottle Caps ARE a permanent increase to stats, but they leave the IVs alone. I assume it was done that way so you couldn't just Bottle Cap a Ditto and breed, and also for Hidden Power.

1 minute ago, ozderya said:

To be honest, I don't care about to get them shiny. I care about nature and IVs

IVs won't matter once Bank gets updated for Sun and Moon thanks to Bottle Caps. You'd only need to worry about Natures.

Just now, YoshiMoshi said:

You can get shiny pokemon from the rom?

No you can't.

Just now, Deoxyz said:

Luckily I can use actual hardware as well

It would just be nice if we knew a method where the 10ANNIV worked with an emulator just as well as everything else.

I can see the uses. Look at the people who managed to get emulators working with Colosseum's e-Reader functionality.

With all the BS you guys have had getting this thing to work with emulators, I'll stick to actual hardware.

43 minutes ago, Ammako said:

What does this show us, other than they used similar graphics for the receiving end? Just with white background instead of black.

He might be showing that the 10ANNIV generation method (or at least the multiboot ROM interface) is older than we think.

1 minute ago, HaxAras said:

This whole time I thought you wanted to change one of the distro devices to distribute other event Pokemon. Like Rocks Metang for example. Or did you want to do that as well?
I uh, have a hard time following peoples posts sometimes. Sometimes I just kinda read through everything in a hurry and re-read it a few times later.

I just like interesting and unique Pokemon. Or Pokemon with a story. What's more interesting than "I took a modified 10th anniversary distro cart and got some Japanese 10th anniv Pokemon."? Seriously. 

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The Scizor is from Colosseum. I'm gonna use a gold bottle cap on it and an ability capsule and it will be a slightly less terrible Scizor with a lot of ribbons and a story!

 

ROCKS Metang would be cool (considering it ties into Gale of Darkness, easily my favorite of the console games), but if it isn't generated the exact same way as the 10th Anniversary Pokemon, then I wouldn't modify this ROM to distribute that. And that's provided we can modify the ROM.

1 minute ago, Deoxyz said:

I've been talking with theSlayer about this though, and from what I understand making a rom hack of these is far from a simple task. We can also just make a tool that generates the pokemon the same way as the carts do, and not make an actual rom hack.

My proposal is if a tool to edit these distro roms comes to fruition, the fake roms need to have some kind of visible flag, such as custom text saying its a rom hack or something of that idea. That, and I do not think the rom editing tools should be public, ever. Regardless, that's just my opinion, but I propose and prefer the option of a custom tool with identical generation methods used in the distro carts.

If that's the case, then I'd be fine with an unofficial tool. Just make versions for GBA, DS and GameCube/Wii as well.

1 hour ago, HaxAras said:

This be that whole research thing we kept saying they need to do. 

Thanks for confirming this. I remember downloading some files from the forums somewhere that had some Pokemon in a "Probably fake" folder. Including a ton of 10th anniversary Pokemon and a shiny Rocks Metang. I don't remember the others were. 

InvaderTak seems really interested in getting these distro devices to distribute different Pokemon. Would it be possible to get one to distribute Pokemon to different regions? Like Japanese 10th anniv Pokemon. That would be pretty cool for personal use.

I'm mainly interested just in case we can't get any more 10th Anniversary distro ROMs. And since it looks like all 10th Anniversary distro carts generate Pokemon the exact same way (regardless of the various OTs, IDs and hold items), we might not need other 10th Anniversary distro ROMs. Plus having an all-in-one 10th Anniversay distro ROM would be amazing.

13 hours ago, ajxpk said:

@Bond697 The way these Trash Bytes come together is so hilarious that I have to laugh about it everytime I think of it. 

Your idea that they could have been traded back and forth Col/XD makes a lot sense btw.
At least if these (hopefully rare) occurences @Sabresite is talking about are zero padded...
It's nothing too suspicious since it's possible to achieve it in a legit way.
Also I must say that I have only the stuff from @HaxAras ect.
Which included Absol, Zangoose, Seviper, Tropius, Machamp & Guardevoir.
And Gardevoir's name is too long so it doesn't have any trash.


Btw. is there a way to determine wether a PCNY is hacked or not without having them all?
PCNY is still new to me but I have a slight idea that it has to do with OT & ID.
Also interesting to see the Held Item stuff again. But hard to know how they get which item without knowing the generation method...

I'm still wondering if the UK 10ANNIV cart generates Pokemon in the EXACT same way as the other 10th Anniversary carts no matter what differences there are in OT, ID and hold item (or lack thereof). If it does, then all we'd need to do is modify it to distribute the US 10 ANIV events (and others like UK Aura Mew, but there's a chance that ROM will be released).

1 minute ago, ajxpk said:

It's not that easy @Invader TAK. I'm afraid to say that...
I need at least one more ROCKS Metang Gen 3 file to even be able to say if what we have is legal.
I'm still confused about its Trash Bytes because what you said is what I've expected.
But its Trash Bytes were totally different than it is the case with フェスタ.

 

 

Well, that's annoying.

I just found out something regarding ROCKS Metang. Japan got that same event at Pokemon Festa 2005. Only difference is the Japanese one has フェスタ (Festa) as the OT. I also found an old topic that lists both them with the other BACD Restricted PID method events here.

What I'm getting at is, this might be an event that we can recreate using the 10ANNIV ROM (since the aforementioned topic lists it with all the 10ANNIV/10 ANIV events).

All the times I used my WISHMAKR disc, I noticed the Ganlon Berry being more common than Salac.

1 minute ago, BlackShark said:

The Zigzagoon from the demo disc can be send to RS with full battery, as long as you have free space in the party. You will just get a message that the battery don't have to be fixed.

I know. I was wondering if the UK Distro can send Zigzagoons to RS with DEAD batteries.

3 minutes ago, suloku said:

If X D really removes trash bytes, I'd say with the information available now, it would be far more interesting to get working (open source) code that allows to reconstruct gen 3 event pokémon as pkm files, and I'm not talking about mew, but all those other events that share the generation code. Of course every single person will have his own view on the "legality" terms, for me that would only be acceptable if we are sure they are correctly generated. I myself don't have that much interest in having the event pokémon or moving them onto further generations, but I think it would be a nice option for anyone wanting to get those event pokémon in conditions similar to distribution (ramdom, but somewhat legit). Of course, this is just my point of view and I'm only stating it because it's something I'd like to see as a reality at some point.

There's always HaxHaras and InsaneNutter's project for those who want the most "pure" version of the event pokémon.

There's also the option to modify the 10ANNIV ROM so it distributes the events that have that same generation method. I'd be perfectly fine with that.

Wait, I just realized something regarding the UK Shiny Zigzagoon cart. Will it send a Zigzagoon to a Ruby or Sapphire game with a battery? The North American Demo Discs don't.

Just did another test with the 10ANNIV ROM with an Emerald save that hasn't obtained the National Dex. I was able to send Charizard over with no issues.

2 hours ago, PokeAcer said:

I love how this is turning out well, good job! c:

Also, for the Egg Wondercard, did anybody try asking NoA/NoJ? I'm NoE sadly, but I could ask some people to ask ;P

NoA never let people send their games in for events. Not sure about NoJ, though.