I'm new here, I lost like a decade's worth of shinies, and I'm trying to gen them again... Any tips to make it easy?

[vbarreiro]

Like the title said, I lost all the shinies pictured. My Switch bricked without warning, and Nintendo failed to keep my saves. I marked which game they were all originally from, I found a tool I can use to trade them to myself via Scarlet (and even have some pokemon from each game I lost pokemon from imported to PKHex), and I do have pokemon in Home from those same games, so I can get my same OT and all for them, but it's simply too time-consuming to go one by one and create a legal file from scratch. 

Like, if I want to gen my S/M Shiny Groudon again, I have to look up which moves it can legally learn, then what location it is listed as being from in that game, then manually copy my OT for that game, etc etc, with no way of knowing if I'm doing it right as I do it. Also, I have zero clue what to do with Home Trackers and I'm terrified Home will eat them after all the work I would put into doing this nearly a hundred times. 

Is there any tool that can skip as much of the grindy work on this as possible? 

I would be looking for:
- A way to make some sort of "profiles" so I don't have to keep re-typing them
- Some way that the pokemon automatically populate themselves with legitimate options for movesets, met locations, SID's, etc. 
- Most importantly, any way to get these Pokemon into HOME? 

Is any of this (or hopefully all of it lol) possible at all?

(Note: All the hardware I have are a Switch 2, copies of Scarlet and Sword, and a PC, and I can't mod)

 

Edited October 5 by vbarreiro

[manolin18]

I'm sorry you lost those Pokémon. I don't understand why they decided to save the game on the console instead of the cartridge. I guess it's to force you to use HOME.
Regarding your request:

- You can get the Pokémon from ReignOfComputer's thread, for example, where you can find all those Pokémon on his GitHub: https://projectpokemon.org/home/forums/topic/37566-rocs-pc-collection-through-the-ages-u-20231218/
- To quickly modify the Pokémon with your ID, SID, EO, and shiny, you can use pkhex's Batch Editor, which will do the job in no time. https://projectpokemon.org/home/tutorials/save-editing/using-pkhex/how-to-use-the-batch-editor-in-pkhex-r77/. I would say that the best way is to make all the changes with the version variable.

Sword Pokémon would not need Home Tracker since, in theory, they have never been in HOME, but SM or OR Pokémon would.

What I really don't know is how you're going to get those Pokémon into your games without a modded console.
I know that not long ago there were servers on Discord where you could upload your .pk8 or .pk9 files and they would distribute them to your console via a bot, but I don't know if they still work. That would take quite a long time, because I see about 130 Pokémon in that image.

 

[vbarreiro]

Thank you kindly! I found a bot that will trade me pokemon. It will allow me to trade any Pokemon so long as it passes their legality check. 

Unfortunately, that leaves me with one Pokemon that I have no idea how to get. I used the Mew Glitch on the virtual console on Pokemon Red to shiny hunt a Mew via DV's and then the Coin Case glitch in Pokemon Gold to modify its OT to make it transferrable to Bank and then to Home. 

It was the crown jewel of my collection, a Home-transferrable Mew. I even found one that's been on Home, but the bot will not trade it to me.

I even got it with the Mightiest mark, so I had a completely ungenned Migthtiest shiny Mew made on all real hardware.  

[vbarreiro]

However, the most important thing, now that I've downlaoded and an checking these out... Insofar as I can see, these don't have a Home tracker, and being able to get them into HOME is an absolute must for me. I want to be able to carry them into the future, as closely as I can mimic them from my originals (i.e. I don't want A shiny minior, I want a shiny Minior named Heavenfall that was hatched in Ultra Sun on July 4th 2018 in a Beast Ball with the Met Location listed as the Pokemon League because that's where I hatched my shiny Minior)

If the shiny Minior has a Met location of Blueberry Academy and an origin game of Violet, that's to me not really any different than a shiny received off of wondertrade named after a website; it's not my Minior. 

Is there any database that has Home-capable pokemon from past gens like that? Like, if I could modify a Home-capable minior to have the data I want, that would help me get back my collection. No matter how long it takes, or how much I have to pay someone, I want my collection back, as closely as possible to how it originally was. 

Heck I tried modifying a Hakomo-O that I got back in Ultra Sun, with that Hakomo-o's Home tracker, make it into that Minior as closely as I could, but Home wouldn't take it...

0774-11 ★ - Heavenfall - 8ECDE4EEA707.pk9

[Kaphotics]

35 minutes ago, vbarreiro said:

Heck I tried modifying a Hakomo-O that I got back in Ultra Sun, with that Hakomo-o's Home tracker, make it into that Minior

You cannot change immutable values, which obviously includes changing the species to something else.

 

[manolin18]

2 hours ago, vbarreiro said:

Thank you kindly! I found a bot that will trade me pokemon. It will allow me to trade any Pokemon so long as it passes their legality check. 

Unfortunately, that leaves me with one Pokemon that I have no idea how to get. I used the Mew Glitch on the virtual console on Pokemon Red to shiny hunt a Mew via DV's and then the Coin Case glitch in Pokemon Gold to modify its OT to make it transferrable to Bank and then to Home. 

It was the crown jewel of my collection, a Home-transferrable Mew. I even found one that's been on Home, but the bot will not trade it to me.

I even got it with the Mightiest mark, so I had a completely ungenned Migthtiest shiny Mew made on all real hardware.  

I know the method you're talking about. Since the bank only checked the EO and ID, you could force it to be shiny using the method you mentioned.

What I don't know is whether that Mew could now go to HOME. I have no idea about that.

2 hours ago, vbarreiro said:

However, the most important thing, now that I've downlaoded and an checking these out... Insofar as I can see, these don't have a Home tracker, and being able to get them into HOME is an absolute must for me. I want to be able to carry them into the future, as closely as I can mimic them from my originals (i.e. I don't want A shiny minior, I want a shiny Minior named Heavenfall that was hatched in Ultra Sun on July 4th 2018 in a Beast Ball with the Met Location listed as the Pokemon League because that's where I hatched my shiny Minior)

If the shiny Minior has a Met location of Blueberry Academy and an origin game of Violet, that's to me not really any different than a shiny received off of wondertrade named after a website; it's not my Minior. 

Is there any database that has Home-capable pokemon from past gens like that? Like, if I could modify a Home-capable minior to have the data I want, that would help me get back my collection. No matter how long it takes, or how much I have to pay someone, I want my collection back, as closely as possible to how it originally was. 

Heck I tried modifying a Hakomo-O that I got back in Ultra Sun, with that Hakomo-o's Home tracker, make it into that Minior as closely as I could, but Home wouldn't take it...

0774-11 ★ - Heavenfall - 8ECDE4EEA707.pk9 344 B · 1 download

From what you say, I understand that you have access to the US, which means you can easily inject ORAS, US/UM, and VC Pokémon there and then use the bank. In theory, even though the 3DS no longer has online services, the bank will exist forever, although I'm not entirely sure about that, nor do I know how it works after the shutdown.

[vbarreiro]

Unfortunately I don't. That 3DS is long-gone, but I did have one Pokemon from there still in Home. The bot I mentioned lets you trade to it to get .pk9 files, which is how I got the .pk9 file, but unfortunately I don't have access to a 3DS, nor the know-how of how to inject pokemon into it. 

My cousin does have a 3DS I could borrow for like, an afternoon, but I would not know the first thing about modding it, nor would I want to risk his game in any way. 

Without any of that, is there no way to get HOME trackers at all? 

The ony thing that I can think of would be to pay someone with a 3DS and genning capabilities to take a bunch of .pk files, transfer them to Home, dump them back, and send me the pk files. From there I can take it myself, but getting there is the issue. I don't even know where I would find such a person. 

[SkyLink98]

4 hours ago, vbarreiro said:

Without any of that, is there no way to get HOME trackers at all?

Unfortunately, no. That's the whole point of Home trackers. You need to transfer the Pokemon you need from the correct games. Grab a 3DS with Bank and Transporter installed, and a 3DS game like USUM. They should be cheap these days. It's a better investment than paying someone to do the work for you. 

[Shady Guy Jose]

17 hours ago, vbarreiro said:

Thank you kindly! I found a bot that will trade me pokemon. It will allow me to trade any Pokemon so long as it passes their legality check. 

Unfortunately, that leaves me with one Pokemon that I have no idea how to get. I used the Mew Glitch on the virtual console on Pokemon Red to shiny hunt a Mew via DV's and then the Coin Case glitch in Pokemon Gold to modify its OT to make it transferrable to Bank and then to Home. 

It was the crown jewel of my collection, a Home-transferrable Mew. I even found one that's been on Home, but the bot will not trade it to me.

I even got it with the Mightiest mark, so I had a completely ungenned Migthtiest shiny Mew made on all real hardware.  

There's one big issue with that Mew. There's absolutely no way to have a legitimate Shiny HOME-transferable Mew. No way at all. Period. Bank/HOME will let it pass, but stronger legality checkers will notice that and throw an error, because the legitimate GF Mew had 15/15/15/15 DVs/IVs, which isn't shiny in Gen 2 (and Bank works that way, since it tries to keep shininess from Gen 2 to the later games). It doesn't check Mew's DVs, so it lets shiny ones pass, but that is 100% impossible without hacking/cheating, so PKHeX or sysbot legality checkers can and will notice that.

[manolin18]

11 hours ago, vbarreiro said:

Desafortunadamente no lo hago. Ese 3DS ha desaparecido hace mucho tiempo, pero tenía un Pokémon de allí todavía en el Hogar. El bot que mencioné le permite intercambiarlo para obtener archivos .pk9, que es cómo conseguí el archivo .pk9, pero desafortunadamente no tengo acceso a un 3DS, ni el know-how de cómo inyectar pokemon en él.

Mi primo tiene un 3DS que podría pedir prestado como, una tarde, pero no sabría lo primero de modificarlo, ni querría arriesgar su juego de ninguna manera.

Sin nada de eso, ¿no hay manera de conseguir rastreadores de HOME?

Lo único que se me ocurre sería pagar a alguien con una capacidad de 3DS y generación para tomar un montón de archivos .pk, transferirlos a Home, devolverlos y enviarme los archivos pk. A partir de ahí puedo tomarlo yo mismo, pero llegar allí es el problema. Ni siquiera sé dónde encontraría a una persona así.

If I may offer some advice, I wouldn't ask anyone to do that job for you. Not because they'll charge you a lot of money, but because you don't know how they're going to do it. For better or worse, I spent a few years distributing Pokémon and collecting others, and I've seen some real atrocities, and on top of that, they were proud of doing something like that.

If you trust your cousin, I would ask him for the console a little longer so you can do it yourself. Besides, it wouldn't take you long, easily two afternoons if you do it this way:
- If your cousin has CFW, you would just have to use an application like JKSV to extract the save and then transfer it to your PC. If he doesn't have CFW, installing it costs nothing and is super fast. Then you give him back the console.
- Once you have the save in your possession, make a backup so that if you make a mistake, there won't be any problems, and then modify the save by adding all the Pokémon you want at your own pace.
- When you've finished recreating those Pokémon, ask for the console back and inject the modified save into the cartridge, then transfer the Pokémon to the bank. Once the process is complete, restore your cousin's original save and you're done.

 

[vbarreiro]

Had to google what CFW even is lol, and never heard of JKSV. He got a completely-reformatted 3DS off of Ebay recently to get a chance to play the old Pokemon games. I also have zero hardware beyond a PC, a Switch, and a copy of Scarlet. 

Can Bank and Transfer be installed off a CFW, and do they work off it? That way I could transfer everything to my own HOME. 

Also, what atrocities have you seen? Honestly I can't imagine anything negative happening off of me giving a guy files, them injecting it and passing them through Home, and then sending the files back with the proper trackers. Beyond scamming me with fake trackers I guess. 

(Also also, the HOME-transferrable shiny Mew is a real mon that can exist, since I did have one. It won't pass, say, a tournament check, but Home lets it through and that's all that matters to me. I want my Mew to walk once more with me in Gen 10.)

[manolin18]

2 hours ago, vbarreiro said:

Had to google what CFW even is lol, and never heard of JKSV. He got a completely-reformatted 3DS off of Ebay recently to get a chance to play the old Pokemon games. I also have zero hardware beyond a PC, a Switch, and a copy of Scarlet. 

Can Bank and Transfer be installed off a CFW, and do they work off it? That way I could transfer everything to my own HOME. 

Also, what atrocities have you seen? Honestly I can't imagine anything negative happening off of me giving a guy files, them injecting it and passing them through Home, and then sending the files back with the proper trackers. Beyond scamming me with fake trackers I guess. 

(Also also, the HOME-transferrable shiny Mew is a real mon that can exist, since I did have one. It won't pass, say, a tournament check, but Home lets it through and that's all that matters to me. I want my Mew to walk once more with me in Gen 10.)

To sum it up, CFW allows you to run homemade applications, known as homebrew, and JKSV is a program for making copies of your games and/or injecting copies of games into games.

Now I'm wondering if it's still possible to download the bank because the 3DS internet services no longer work.

If the person is a professional, there shouldn't be any problems if you give them the .pk7 or .pk6 files. The atrocities were because 90% of the people who repaired Pokémon didn't know how to create them properly, but of course, if you give them the files as I said before, they can't do anything wrong.
Before, the checks were terrible, anything could slip through the GTS, and even in official VGC tournaments you could see “fake” Pokémon. I still have quite a few screenshots on my PC of all the “fake” Pokémon I saw or came across.

I've seen that Mew in S/S, but of course that was more than five years ago. It's sure to get through the bank, but I don't know if they've fixed the security on HOME.

 

[Gridelin]

Did Nintendo keep the bricked Switch? I know sometimes they send back the broken console as well along with a new one. If they did, you might be able to hardmod it or pay someone to try and fix it (depending on what the actual brick issue is). There is a 99% chance Nintendo did not even look at what was actually wrong with the console.