hack Pokemon Mystery Dungeon - Explorers of Alpha (3.0.3, last update 3/10/2025)

[HorridLittleBeast]

  On 4/7/2025 at 10:11 PM, Alphadaemon said:

Then I don't know. Nothing points out to this being replicable, the only way I could replicate what you reported is having a usrcheat.dat with some cheats enabled running

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Don’t know what that is but id offer my save file if i knew how! 
 

also quick question: abt aegis cave: i cannot figure out what to do for it. It looks like a fire stones needed for ice? But I’ve gone through so many runs of it and i cannot find one. do I have to go out and bring one back in? not even sure what awaits with the other aegis caves

[Alphadaemon]

  On 4/8/2025 at 3:45 AM, HorridLittleBeast said:

Don’t know what that is but id offer my save file if i knew how! 
 

also quick question: abt aegis cave: i cannot figure out what to do for it. It looks like a fire stones needed for ice? But I’ve gone through so many runs of it and i cannot find one. do I have to go out and bring one back in? not even sure what awaits with the other aegis caves

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You didn't read the riddle properly

[Rican]

  On 4/3/2025 at 7:55 PM, PandaTrash said:

Yeah, I think that's the bug I ran into. I'll wait for the next update!

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Heyy um im playing drastic too and i passed the mystifing forest i think its your starters that glitched the game

[PandaTrash]

  On 4/8/2025 at 6:01 PM, Rican said:

Heyy um im playing drastic too and i passed the mystifing forest i think its your starters that glitched the game

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I already beat the post game and I'm playing on Twilight menu so no emulator for me. I don't think it's my starters.

 It's a glitch related to A marowak not reappearing to get the ascend stones because I forgot to talk to it the first time. OP said this will be fixed in an update. There may also be another way to get the stones I believe OP said to me. So, just got to be patient and wait for the next update. 

[Chelonia]

Doing an escort mission in lategame/postgame dungeons is pretty tough... Since the escort's level is decided by the mission's difficulty and not level scaling options, they are always far weaker than the dungeon's enemies (when taking the new difficulty curve into account). And why did the Item Master IQ skill need to be removed from the default skill set? Because of it, missions could be automatically lost if an enemy decides to use a damaging room-wide move, since the escort can no longer use Reviver Seeds

The opposite applies to outlaw missions. Since the outlaw Pokemon's level is also decided by the mission's difficulty, they tend to be significantly weaker than the wild Pokemon in a dungeon. Although, me nuking them with 2-turn moves and No Charger could also play a factor into that

Edited April 9 by Chelonia

[HorridLittleBeast]

  On 4/8/2025 at 4:48 AM, Alphadaemon said:

You didn't read the riddle properly

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Oops missed this but yeah I figured it out!

 

Also when I enter dungeons with lopunny, her ability changes from scrappy to klutz. In the crossroads and stuff, it says she’s scrappy/limber but when I enter dungeons it changes to klutz/limber

[Alphadaemon]

  On 4/9/2025 at 4:12 AM, HorridLittleBeast said:

Oops missed this but yeah I figured it out!

 

Also when I enter dungeons with lopunny, her ability changes from scrappy to klutz. In the crossroads and stuff, it says she’s scrappy/limber but when I enter dungeons it changes to klutz/limber

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Known bug that's been detailed in a lot of the previous posts

  On 4/9/2025 at 3:45 AM, Chelonia said:

Doing an escort mission in lategame/postgame dungeons is pretty tough... Since the escort's level is decided by the mission's difficulty and not level scaling options, they are always far weaker than the dungeon's enemies (when taking the new difficulty curve into account). And why did the Item Master IQ skill need to be removed from the default skill set? Because of it, missions could be automatically lost if an enemy decides to use a damaging room-wide move, since the escort can no longer use Reviver Seeds

The opposite applies to outlaw missions. Since the outlaw Pokemon's level is also decided by the mission's difficulty, they tend to be significantly weaker than the wild Pokemon in a dungeon. Although, me nuking them with 2-turn moves and No Charger could also play a factor into that

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If the escort could clear the dungeon on their own, they wouldn't need you to escort them. Also room moves are only triggered when a target is in line of sight. It's easy enough to maneuver and failing the mission is only due to the player not properly escorting the client, not it being so vulnerable that any option could unfairly KO it. If you are still afraid of them not having item master, give them a gummi or a Nectar but it should be an option you'd use to trivialise the game, not a default so you can bruteforce everything.

 

As for outlaws, the same kind of logic applies. If they were impossible to catch, this would be a main story event because there are a lot of criminals in universe.

[Remu]

  On 4/5/2025 at 9:03 AM, Alphadaemon said:

 

It's a known bug for SE1. IDK if you version has the skip cutscenes option for that one but you can try it out

Clefairy tells you Mrs Kecleon would love to hear more about you or smth, you should go see her!

 

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I was able to complete all episodes using the skip cutscenes option, thanks. Now have all legendaries I believe.

Am I retarded or what I literally have 0 clue on who or where Mrs Kecleon is, when clefairy said some shit about it before I was confused as well.

What requirements are involved for the Destiny Tower? Is it something in regards of completing the Zero Isles? I have the twin towers completed so far. 

In all honestly I'm just hoping I don't have to get to Earth rank, its just me resetting job listings until I get lucky enough for a few in the same dungeon.

Is there any finishing bit for the globes with torkoal? I believe I have them all, went to talk to him and he said I still haven't found all, wasn't sure if hes reffering to the arceus globe.

Thanks for all the quick answers by the way. 

[Alphadaemon]

  On 4/9/2025 at 6:24 AM, Remu said:

I was able to complete all episodes using the skip cutscenes option, thanks. Now have all legendaries I believe.

Am I retarded or what I literally have 0 clue on who or where Mrs Kecleon is, when clefairy said some shit about it before I was confused as well.

What requirements are involved for the Destiny Tower? Is it something in regards of completing the Zero Isles? I have the twin towers completed so far. 

In all honestly I'm just hoping I don't have to get to Earth rank, its just me resetting job listings until I get lucky enough for a few in the same dungeon.

Is there any finishing bit for the globes with torkoal? I believe I have them all, went to talk to him and he said I still haven't found all, wasn't sure if hes reffering to the arceus globe.

Thanks for all the quick answers by the way. 

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Finishing bit is Destiny Tower unlock.

Mrs. Kecleon is the TM/Orbs shopkeeper, but I think you need to be on the latest version to have access to the event

 

[Remu]

  On 4/9/2025 at 6:31 AM, Alphadaemon said:

Finishing bit is Destiny Tower unlock.

Mrs. Kecleon is the TM/Orbs shopkeeper, but I think you need to be on the latest version to have access to the event

 

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This hoe ain't saying shieet. I did update my version from the one that was freezing to 3.0.3. No idea if that a reason.

What exactly is the finishing bit, I'm confused what you mean. Need to get earth rank you mean?

[Alphadaemon]

  On 4/9/2025 at 5:25 PM, Remu said:

This hoe ain't saying shieet. I did update my version from the one that was freezing to 3.0.3. No idea if that a reason.

What exactly is the finishing bit, I'm confused what you mean. Need to get earth rank you mean?

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Talk to Clefairy then talk to her, not 100% sure if it's in 3.0.3 or if I added it to future 3.1

The ending of Torkoal's globe quest is getting Destiny Tower

[TheTRUEgge]

I've been working through recruiting all the legendaries and I'm really stuck on Shaymin. I'm post-Darkrai, I've made it to Sky Peak and seen Shaymin telling me I need to help Heracross, but I don't understand what I'm supposed to do for him? I've tried going to Nectar Meadow for clues, I've tried bringing Nectar to the peak (I've actually climbed the mountain four times now,  it's pretty discouraging), I even brought some Pokemon I'd recruited from there with no success. What is supposed to happen for this quest, exactly?

[therealGodSlayer]

Is this the correct place to do a bug report? I have encountered something that actually scared the fck out of me LOL... unmodified game and not using any cheats, and I transferred my sav from my SuperCard DSone (known for very good romhack compatibility as well as savestates) flashcart to the Twilight Menu and to Melonds and still experienced this scary crash.

I think it's the start of a cutscene, but I don't know; it's on the day that Skunkant showed up, and it's after I completed a few bounties in a dungeon on that day. I backed up a sav from before I went on the dungeon run so I can verify my current settings, and I also think the Twilight Menu has an option to dump RAM after a crash; I'm not sure, however, if that's helpful.

[Mizutsune]

hey good news: i finally found out what the issue was! It WAS the item randomizer! i managed to get all the way to the forest in the future. Sadly i uh forgot to turn the item randomizer off so as you would expect... i think i hardlocked myself as i cant access porygons randomizer in the future world and i cant shut item rando off and as you would expect it crashes when i tried to go to floor... 15 was it? so yea. Edit: WAIT NVM IDK HOW BUT I GOT IT TO WORK

Edited April 12 by Mizutsune

[Chelonia]

Somehow I managed to unlock Oblivion Forest twice... The first time was upon reaching 150 recycles at Wynaut's Shop (also unlocked Treacherous Waters/Southeastern Islands/Inferno Cave), and the second time was upon reaching Perfect Rank. Some extra documentation on any new or altered dungeon unlock methods would be appreciated.

This also reminded me of how the game would notify me of a new dungeon being found from a Spinda drink on many occasions, but without actually unlocking anything

[Mizutsune]

sooooo i got good news and i got bad news: Good news is i beat the main game and got to Aegis Cave in the post game... BAD NEWS: despite turning species randomizer off, the unowns i need to advance do not appear due to other pokemon showing up. idk what else to do here since i cant seem to progress due to not having the needed unown stones. you got any tips or pointers or should i restart the game since i saved before aegis cave, and see if i can get the unown to spawn? 

Edited April 15 by Mizutsune

[Alphadaemon]

  On 4/15/2025 at 7:33 AM, Mizutsune said:

sooooo i got good news and i got bad news: Good news is i beat the main game and got to Aegis Cave in the post game... BAD NEWS: despite turning species randomizer off, the unowns i need to advance do not appear due to other pokemon showing up. idk what else to do here since i cant seem to progress due to not having the needed unown stones. you got any tips or pointers or should i restart the game since i saved before aegis cave, and see if i can get the unown to spawn? 

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You need a specific item, unknown stones are no longer in the game. Item randomizer is the true issue there as you need one or two specific item.

  On 4/13/2025 at 5:20 AM, Chelonia said:

Somehow I managed to unlock Oblivion Forest twice... The first time was upon reaching 150 recycles at Wynaut's Shop (also unlocked Treacherous Waters/Southeastern Islands/Inferno Cave), and the second time was upon reaching Perfect Rank. Some extra documentation on any new or altered dungeon unlock methods would be appreciated.

This also reminded me of how the game would notify me of a new dungeon being found from a Spinda drink on many occasions, but without actually unlocking anything

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Thanks for reporting the former, the latter is unintended.

  On 4/12/2025 at 3:51 PM, therealGodSlayer said:

Is this the correct place to do a bug report? I have encountered something that actually scared the fck out of me LOL... unmodified game and not using any cheats, and I transferred my sav from my SuperCard DSone (known for very good romhack compatibility as well as savestates) flashcart to the Twilight Menu and to Melonds and still experienced this scary crash.

I think it's the start of a cutscene, but I don't know; it's on the day that Skunkant showed up, and it's after I completed a few bounties in a dungeon on that day. I backed up a sav from before I went on the dungeon run so I can verify my current settings, and I also think the Twilight Menu has an option to dump RAM after a crash; I'm not sure, however, if that's helpful.

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Update your game and disable daily cutscenes

  On 4/12/2025 at 12:09 AM, TheTRUEgge said:

I've been working through recruiting all the legendaries and I'm really stuck on Shaymin. I'm post-Darkrai, I've made it to Sky Peak and seen Shaymin telling me I need to help Heracross, but I don't understand what I'm supposed to do for him? I've tried going to Nectar Meadow for clues, I've tried bringing Nectar to the peak (I've actually climbed the mountain four times now,  it's pretty discouraging), I even brought some Pokemon I'd recruited from there with no success. What is supposed to happen for this quest, exactly?

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Heracross is talking about friends, this is a good hint. Spoiler: recruit all of Nectar Meadow's species.

[SiriusDergon]

I have a bit of a question! For some reason Reviver Seeds only seem to work on the main/player Pokemon, but for my Partner they don't seem to work at all. Is this a purposeful thing or just a bug?

[Alphadaemon]

  On 4/16/2025 at 10:20 PM, SiriusDergon said:

I have a bit of a question! For some reason Reviver Seeds only seem to work on the main/player Pokemon, but for my Partner they don't seem to work at all. Is this a purposeful thing or just a bug?

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You don't have IQ Skill Item Master enabled on your partner

[SiriusDergon]

  On 4/16/2025 at 10:56 PM, Alphadaemon said:

You don't have IQ Skill Item Master enabled on your partner

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OHHHH I'm just dumb then LMAO! It's been literally forever since I've played a Mystery Dungeon game, sorry about that and thank you for the heads up!

[Mizutsune]

  On 4/15/2025 at 9:54 AM, Alphadaemon said:

You need a specific item, unknown stones are no longer in the game. Item randomizer is the true issue there as you need one or two specific item.

Thanks for reporting the former, the latter is unintended.

Update your game and disable daily cutscenes

Heracross is talking about friends, this is a good hint. Spoiler: recruit all of Nectar Meadow's species.

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Real glad i turned item rando off for it then! thanks for letting me know! thanks to that i just beat darkrai and getting up to the final post game part

[Chelonia]

I've had the game crash on me somewhat consistently whenever I attack a Skarmory without KOing it. I first noticed to me when going through Chasm Cave, but now it's happening in Aegis Cave too. I think it might have to do with positioning, or maybe the Type of the move I use. Either way, it's making progressing through the latter dungeon even more frustrating than it already is (especially since I can't submit the required items to reach the Regi's chambers manually like in an unmodded game)

[AnnaH]

Did you change anything in how abilities and movesets are determined for Pokemon in Alpha? Normally I can customize rom hacks to my liking but it doesn't seem to be the case for this one.

If I try to edit the Alpha ROM in skytemple it won't actually load my changes in dungeon but uses the "original". Is this on purpose?

E.g. I have noticed that female Ponyta gets the ability Flash Fire and Speed Boost (should be Flash Fire and Run Away according to Starter Selector) which is great for solo speedrunning but in a party inconvenient since it now moves faster than its teammembers. When I change the ability for Ponyta in skytemple to Run Away (ID #077 version 1 has Speed Boost and is shiny interestingly) it's still Speed Boost when I enter a dungeon. However in the overworld it's Run Away! How come the game loads two different Abillity sets for in dungeon and overworld?

Edited April 17 by AnnaH
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[Alphadaemon]

  On 4/17/2025 at 7:06 AM, Chelonia said:

I've had the game crash on me somewhat consistently whenever I attack a Skarmory without KOing it. I first noticed to me when going through Chasm Cave, but now it's happening in Aegis Cave too. I think it might have to do with positioning, or maybe the Type of the move I use. Either way, it's making progressing through the latter dungeon even more frustrating than it already is (especially since I can't submit the required items to reach the Regi's chambers manually like in an unmodded game)

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No one ever crashed on a Skarmory, what are you doing to get the crash?

  On 4/17/2025 at 4:20 PM, AnnaH said:

Did you change anything in how abilities and movesets are determined for Pokemon in Alpha? Normally I can customize rom hacks to my liking but it doesn't seem to be the case for this one.

If I try to edit the Alpha ROM in skytemple it won't actually load my changes in dungeon but uses the "original". Is this on purpose?

E.g. I have noticed that female Ponyta gets the ability Flash Fire and Speed Boost (should be Flash Fire and Run Away according to Starter Selector) which is great for solo speedrunning but in a party inconvenient since it now moves faster than its teammembers. When I change the ability for Ponyta in skytemple to Run Away (ID #077 version 1 has Speed Boost and is shiny interestingly) it's still Speed Boost when I enter a dungeon. However in the overworld it's Run Away! How come the game loads two different Abillity sets for in dungeon and overworld?

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There's a bug in current version that replaces ability sets into first form ability sets always. As for preventing the edition of metadata, it is perfectly intentional for several reasons

[Chelonia]

  On 4/17/2025 at 10:45 PM, Alphadaemon said:

No one ever crashed on a Skarmory, what are you doing to get the crash?

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Did some more testing on this issue, and it appears the crash triggers when I use Earth Power or Muddy Water on a Skarmory (my team is Grotle + Wartortle). It may take more than one hit of those moves for it to happen, but it only seems to be those two in particular that's causing problems. Other factors might be contributing as well (positioning or current turn number on a floor), though it's hard to say for sure