Lugiamaster Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Really, the only way to do it would be to use the pokesav to give it ev points but sadly, it could be identified as a hack
damio Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 It would be a hack if there was even 1 EV in it at all.
TwilightSDA Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 I was actually hoping for an event of the Azure Flute. This event is ok I guess.
AtomicGreymon Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 I was actually hoping for an event of the Azure Flute. This event is ok I guess. This is probably being done like Shaymin, or Darkrai... the pokemon itself distributed first at some event, and then the in-game item necessary for a player to catch their own distrubted later on.
NovaPhoenix Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 It would be a hack if there was even 1 EV in it at all. So is it likely this Arceus is meant to have zero EVs, or is there another way? The "Vitamin" items don't work on Level 100 Pokemon, right?
AtomicGreymon Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 So is it likely this Arceus is meant to have zero EVs, or is there another way?The "Vitamin" items don't work on Level 100 Pokemon, right? I don't think I've ever tried giving vitamens to a lv. 100 pokemon... but even if they did accept them, it wouldn't be beneficial as EVs only increase a Pokemon's stats upon a levelling up.
NovaPhoenix Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Arceus without EVs in anything will have 381 HP with everything else at 276. With beneficial status, a stat would be 303 and the polar-opposite of that stat would be 248. It wouldn't exactly be powerful when battling against much else in OU and Uber tiers. Assuming no Plate is attached, Close Combat or Aura Sphere could really cripple it! EDIT: I've read up and have good news. Some of you probably already knew, but Vitamins do work on a Level 100 Pokemon. This means Arceus could be fed exactly the right ones, according to the player's wishes.
xeomyr Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 give them vitamins and put them in pokebox ... and you will see the difference ^^
Lugiamaster Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 give them vitamins and put them in pokebox ... and you will see the difference ^^ But the vitamin strategy is no good Its nowhere near as good as EV Training
ReD_RoToM Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 But the vitamin strategy is no goodIts nowhere near as good as EV Training vitamins are EV training, just they can only be used to bring the EV value to to 100. Which is why you have them 10 vitamins of the right stat before you EV train it. then you only have to put in 152 versus 252.
Jibaku Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Okay Level 100 really sucks. You can't EV Arceus past 100 EVs through vitamins . I suppose Level 100 makes sense but why can't they just put in Lv. 99? Speaking of vitamins, yes they can be used on Level 100s, but they still have their limits. 406 / 248 / 301 / 301 / 301 / 331 or some arrangement like that is the best you'll ever get. It'll all come down to who has 31 Speed on Arceus. ...Unless movie Arceus comes with EVs when you get it...but that's super unlikely.
AtomicGreymon Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 give them vitamins and put them in pokebox ... and you will see the difference ^^ I thought the box trick didn't work this generation?
NovaPhoenix Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 OkayLevel 100 really sucks. You can't EV Arceus past 100 EVs through vitamins . I suppose Level 100 makes sense but why can't they just put in Lv. 99? Speaking of vitamins, yes they can be used on Level 100s, but they still have their limits. 406 / 248 / 301 / 301 / 301 / 331 or some arrangement like that is the best you'll ever get. It'll all come down to who has 31 Speed on Arceus. ...Unless movie Arceus comes with EVs when you get it...but that's super unlikely. So 100 EVs into the stats is all Vitamins do at Level 100? CRAP!! Suddenly it seems like this Movie Arceus is going to suck! EV spreads like the one in Jibaku's post are still good, but not great. I really do hope this Arceus isn't f-ed.
Zowayix Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 I thought the box trick didn't work this generation? It doesn't work with battling EVs, but it does work with Vitamins.
Guested Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 Do you realize that Arceus will still be really freaking strong without EV training?
Arceus010 Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) I made a bit like a movie Arceus( not a real one but its got every thing right things..... so its ok for now but its hardly like what it'll be like.....) Edited April 14, 2009 by fenzo666
Akaria Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 The box trick does work, but at level hundred it won't change drastically. I don't touch my event/legendaries so I'm not too bothered about it being level 100.
Lugiamaster Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 To be perfectly honest, this Arceus is a waste I just don't understand why they always have to be LV100 Regigigas gets a pass since he's easy to get, anyway But Arceus is probably the rarest pokemon going and they make this rubbish? Reasons why I think this Arceus is rubbish 1. You can't EV train it, you have to resort to those silly vitamins 2. Roar of Time and Shadow Force suck anyway since their both 2 turn moves The only decent thing you got out of this was it knwos spacial rend Also, at least now we can complete our pokedex legitally I tell you, when it comes to the Arceus itself, it sucks
pokemonfan4ever Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 To be perfectly honest, this Arceus is a wasteI just don't understand why they always have to be LV100 Regigigas gets a pass since he's easy to get, anyway But Arceus is probably the rarest pokemon going and they make this rubbish? Reasons why I think this Arceus is rubbish 1. You can't EV train it, you have to resort to those silly vitamins 2. Roar of Time and Shadow Force suck anyway since their both 2 turn moves The only decent thing you got out of this was it knwos spacial rend Also, at least now we can complete our pokedex legitally I tell you, when it comes to the Arceus itself, it sucks yeah,i wonder why they gave it a good moveset and practically you can't do anything with it except battle over WI-FI :confused:
fenzo666 Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 I made a bit like a movie Arceus( not a real one but its got every thing right things..... so its ok for now but its hardly like what it'll be like.....) Please don't post fake PKMs on here... Thanks.
Guested Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 To be perfectly honest, this Arceus is a wasteI just don't understand why they always have to be LV100 Regigigas gets a pass since he's easy to get, anyway But Arceus is probably the rarest pokemon going and they make this rubbish? Reasons why I think this Arceus is rubbish 1. You can't EV train it, you have to resort to those silly vitamins 2. Roar of Time and Shadow Force suck anyway since their both 2 turn moves The only decent thing you got out of this was it knwos spacial rend Also, at least now we can complete our pokedex legitally I tell you, when it comes to the Arceus itself, it sucks If you actually planned on using Arceus for competitive battling, then... well... I think you need to do some thinking about things that can be described with the word "rubbish."
randomspot555 Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 yeah,i wonder why they gave it a good moveset and practically you can't do anything with it except battle over WI-FI :confused: They probably aren't thinking very much about Wi-Fi battling when making these. Remember that this is a franchise aimed at children. They aren't thinking of strategy or IVs when battling, they're just thinking of which move looks the coolest when used. EDIT: Also, the key item will likely be released at least for Japanese Platinum (based on precedent), so an original Arceus set can be legitimately caught and trained.
AtomicGreymon Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 I guess I have some more reading to do about EV training... but why is it that vitamens and boxing a level 100 pokemon will increase its stats, but regular battling for EV training won't? Is is that the game doesn't allow a level 100 to gain EV through battling?
pokemonfan4ever Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 They probably aren't thinking very much about Wi-Fi battling when making these. Remember that this is a franchise aimed at children. They aren't thinking of strategy or IVs when battling, they're just thinking of which move looks the coolest when used.EDIT: Also, the key item will likely be released at least for Japanese Platinum (based on precedent), so an original Arceus set can be legitimately caught and trained. ok i get what your saying.
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