Weekly Poll #2: Dragonite vs. Salamence

[wraith89]

So here we have two Pokemon that are inevitably compared with each other...

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DRAGONITE

Type: Dragon/Flying

HP: 91

Atk: 134

Def: 95

SpA: 100

SpDef: 100

Spe: 80

BST: 600

Based on the friendly Chinese dragon

Advantages:

- Looks much cuter

- It possess a whole bunch of support moves

- It has a much larger offensive movepool

- Inner Focus can help against Fake Out users

- Is a bit more bulkier than Salamence in general

- Can play many roles, such as sweeper, cleric, supporter, wall, etc...

- It is friendly to its trainer and saves drowning people

- One of the original 150s

Disadvantages:

- 4x weakness to Ice

- Stat distribution suggests offensive beast, but is largely outclassed by Salamence in that manner

- Dragon Dance + Outrage combo now stolen by Salamence

- Is often looked over for its lack of speed

- Evolved from a beautiful elegant blue serpentine dragon into an orange barney-esque Pokemon (LOL)

- Ability doesn't help as much as Salamence's

- Evolves later than Salamence and is banned in official tournaments

- Shiny form looks bizarre (subjective really)

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SALAMENCE

Type: Dragon/Flying

HP: 95

Atk: 135

Def: 80

SpA: 110

SpDef: 80

Spe: 100

BST: 600

Based on the fierce European dragon

Advantages:

- Looks much tougher

- Is a better sweeper overall with more speed and more attack on both sides

- Intimidate helps with its physical defense somewhat

- Dragon Dancer is very fierce, and outclasses Dragonite's Dragon Dancing sweeperish sets

- Specsmence possesses OU's most powerful Draco Meteoring Pokemon

- Salamence is able to learn Wish to support its teammates (via event though)

- Shiny form actually looks decent for the most part

- Learns Fly naturally (for in-game purposes)

- Evolves earlier than Dragonite

Disadvantages:

- 4x weakness to Ice

- It's pre-evo had better defense

- Has a much smaller movepool than Dragonite

- Its role is usually locked into sweeping and stat distribution gives little room for other roles

- Can be quite predictable

- Can be nasty to its trainer and other Pokes

Vote which one you like and give a reason why.

I pick Dragonite out of personal preferences. Why? Because it is much friendlier, had a Dragonair in my old RBY versions (never got it to Dragonite stage unfortunately) and its support moves helped me a lot in battling. Salamence is cool, but I prefer old Dragonite.

Edited July 2, 2009 by wraith89

[UnderXRay]

i vote dragonite, i allways like them and their are strong too, if you remember my NiteNight helped me out in battles so many times before.

[Okami]

Dragonite. Definately Dragonite. (Dratini is my fave. Dragon pokemon) And he is my best pokemon in my team

[Poryhack]

Dragonite. I raised that special extremespeed dratini you get in crystal to lvl 100.

[wraith89]

  Poryhack said:

Dragonite. I raised that special extremespeed dratini you get in crystal to lvl 100.

Oh yeah. That guy. I wish Extremespeed was still a move for Dragonite in DPP. But that makes me wonder if they'll give something like that in HG/SS...

And Okami, your Alakazam is WAY too tough >

Mixnites are cool though

Now that I posted the shiny forms... sure Dragonite's color seems off, but it still looks cute!

[FLOOTENKERP]

Dragonite has always helped me in rough times, even beating a very strong Salamence, so I choose Dragonite.

[D@t@_G@ll@de#3]

you idiots, live for godzilla, not barney!!! i pick salamence. he looks better, has efficient stats (i mean dragonite does too,but...) and is legal in tournaments!

[Relyte]

Dragonite, although it'd be nice if Dragonair had another evo that was slightly less barnyesque. Back on topic, Dragonite's a lot nicer than Salamence, and I never really liked Salamence in R/S/E.

[Aarux]

I like Salamence better.

It looks cooler and more vicious than Dragonite to me, is speedier and has more power, and has done better in battles than Dragonite when I use it.

[RJFLA]

I said both because both because i use both Dragonite and Salamence. I have 2 in FR and i use them both for Flying and waterfall and i use Salamence in Emerald for Flying. They are both pretty useful in their own way but both have their fatal weaknesses. For example, they are double weak to ice types.. On the other hand, they both have very different movepools. Well, I chose both. K bye.

~RJFLA

[Enkidu]

I'm picking salamence because Wraith picked dragonite.

[wraith89]

  Enkidu said:

I'm picking salamence because Wraith picked dragonite.

Inadequate reason. LOL. I know you like strong Pokemon, so that's your reason

[ParaDoX65]

Well, I can't decide between them =/ I like both of them. I've used both in the past in game. I just can't choose! >.< Dragonite = bulkier and Salamence = stronger, even with this, they can provide a lot to a team.

[FLOOTENKERP]

  D@t@_G@ll@de#3 said:

you idiots, live for godzilla, not barney!!! i pick salamence. he looks better, has efficient stats (i mean dragonite does too,but...) and is legal in tournaments!

Dragonite aren't legal in tournaments? They are OU, not ubers or anything.

[wraith89]

  FLOOTENKERP said:

Dragonite aren't legal in tournaments? They are OU, not ubers or anything.

Level 50 Pokemon only. And Dragonite has to be level 55 or higher.

[FLOOTENKERP]

Oh, that sucks. Changing my answer to Salamence. I still like Dragonite though.

[pokemonfan]

Dragonite FTW Salamence looks weird to me. Plus dragonite is one of the few fully evolved pokemon that I believe looks cute.

[HottSushiz]

Dragonite.... well because he looks so cute and flaffy, :biggrin: also i never liked the look of Salemence, even if he's stronger, i just don't like him, i guess because he came from Hoenn, there are only a handful of Pokemon that i like from that region, plus Salemence sounds like Salami.

I think i prefer this sprite of Dragonite, :tongue: he looks WAY more bulkier.

[sparkdreamer]

My opinion:

Dragonite

Looks better

Never had any success with it -kicks self-

Salamence

Never used it before

Don't like to face it

After weighing my options for a while, I came to the conclusion that Option 7 was the best way to go.

[Toffeuy]

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SALAMENCE

Type: Bug/Fighting

HP: 95

Atk: 135

Def: 80

SpA: 110

SpDef: 80

Spe: 100

BST: 600

Alright, this was taken from the first post. YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME! Salamence is Bug/Fighting type?

EDIT: I guess i'll choose Dragonite then cause Dragon Flying is better than Bug Fighting :kikkoman:

Jokes, I like Dragonite because it has better looks

EDIT 2: Fact - No-one who voted dislikes both Dragons

Fact 2 - No-one who voted preferred Shelgon over its evolution

Edited July 17, 2009 by Toffeuy

[wraith89]

  Toffeuy said:

Alright, this was taken from the first post. YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME! Salamence is Bug/Fighting type?

Oh is it really? I had no idea! I thought it was Dragon/Flying... but I guess I'm wrong :creep:

And please vote and state your reason >.>

[pokemonfan]

  wraith89 said:

Oh is it really? I had no idea! I thought it was Dragon/Flying... but I guess I'm wrong :creep:

And please vote and state your reason >.>

I'm such a moron I believed it was bug and fighting what's wrong with me? It is dragon and flying...just in case see it here

[Gin]

Everyone pick the last option!!

[Enzo]

Salamence is so hideous.

[Dimi]

How did i miss this thread...

I prefer Dragonite over Salamence. People say Mence outclasses Nite. Pffft, only thing Mence does better is DD and Specs(both suck with a scarf). Also Dragonite is way more cooler looking. Just look at them when they were 1st introduced.

Also, what kind of Dragon loses to a penguin >.>