Josephvb11 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 What bugs me is why these two Arceus are so similar. Was the original shinified and then this one has a different PID and IVs. Also, this has Kyoto as the sub-region, while the other one has Chiba.
DemonKlyd Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Since it supposedly came from a japanese wondercard (that I was told), and because I got it from a trade on my japanese 3DS, would a picture of the said 3DS and the Arceus displayed on it help? There would be another pic of the back of the console with the japanese notes on it, which other regions don't have. Asking for pictures is silly though, since even a wondercard can be hacked I guess if you wanna go this way. But I would do anything to defend myself from accusations of stealing from this community that I respect. I've been trying to collect events since Emerald, so, telling me that I stole everything from this website really gets me mad. That's not a game I would want to play now.
theSLAYER Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Since it supposedly came from a japanese wondercard (that I was told), and because I got it from a trade on my japanese 3DS, would a picture of the said 3DS and the Arceus displayed on it help? There would be another pic of the back of the console with the japanese notes on it, which other regions don't have. Asking for pictures is silly though, since even a wondercard can be hacked I guess if you wanna go this way. But I would do anything to defend myself from accusations of stealing from this community that I respect. I've been trying to collect events since Emerald, so, telling me that I stole everything from this website really gets me mad. That's not a game I would want to play now. Okay, accusations aside; Quick question, what is the country you set on your Japanese 3DS?
Josephvb11 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Well, will try to analyze this. We have two Arceus, shared by two users here. One on the PKX contribution thread and one on the .wc6 contribution thread (as a .pk6 file). The first one was not shiny and the second one is shiny. Here are the files: Non-Shiny, Shiny. They have the following similarities: They have the same SID / ID / OT / Attacks / Relearn moves, which seem are the real ones. They have the following info in residence: They both have the same memoy with non-OT (arrived via Link Trade / at Pokémon center / it felt good) They have the same Nature (Rash) They were both obtained in the same game (OR), same date (07/03/2015). And finally, they have the same Hidden Power type. And the differences: They have a different IV distribution The non-shiny one has the latest trainer value as Shaun while the shiny one Icarus The non-shiny one was obtained in Chiba while the shiny one at Kyoto. So, there's a possibility that the shiny one was based on the non-shiny one. However, we don't know if the original Arceus is legit or not.
DemonKlyd Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 It's on Japan, Hiroshima (That's where I bought it in the first place). OK then it's 99% sure it's not even legit in the first place. I'm removing it from my page, too many doubts. Thanks for the heads up.
Chamdee Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Me here: popcorn anyone? Just gonna entertain myself while i look for korean keldeo!(◎_◎) Edit: For those that will see this... Do anyone know the trade phrase in korean? Like: LF/FT, 求/出
theSLAYER Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 It's on Japan, Hiroshima (That's where I bought it in the first place). I'm not too sure on how the residence things work, but at the very least if you received the Arceus, I think Japan, Hiroshima would be the latest entry on the residence list? Residence is a new feature that I have yet to test, since I'm more wondercard than pk6 fella. Okay, I don't like accusing people, but there are three logical train of thoughts to follow now, so bear with me: You received a legitimate Arceus that looks very alike to the ones we have. Coincidences happen.Also, that will mean I'm completely wrong about the residences theory as to be explained below.ᅠᅠᅠᅠᅠᅠָ You received a hacked Arceus based off the one we have. However, Japan, Hiroshima wasn't added to residences.But I'm not too sure about residences. But at the very least, it should add the residence from your trading partner or from you.That leads to number 3.ָ You hacked the Arceus based off the distributed one.Because of the lack of residences from both your or your partner, it is very hard to see if a trading actually took place.One again, I don't understand entirely how residences work. So, there is still a chance you're innocent, so in this case anyone want to set up a trade test with DemonKlyd and explain their findings regarding residences?
alexbip15 Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 How the residences work afaik: - if I get (catch/hatch/recieve via event...) a Pokemon and i trade it the residence list will only list the receiver's location. I have a PGL Tyrunt that I got myself from a code the location list is blank atm but if I trade it then the receiver's location will be added. I also got a WHF15 Rayquaza (that I know was legit) and the location list only has my location.
DemonKlyd Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I would have liked it to be the first option, but it looks like it's most likely the second one. Here's how my japanese 3ds is set up: picture But basically, "accusations aside" as you say, I see you keep supposing stuff against me, and I would appreciate this stops. Quite ironical for a website having a passion for hacking 3DS devices and such. I'm getting tired of justifying myself just because I know I'm honest.
theSLAYER Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 How the residences work afaik:- if I get (catch/hatch/recieve via event...) a Pokemon and i trade it the residence list will only list the receiver's location. I have a PGL Tyrunt that I got myself from a code the location list is blank atm but if I trade it then the receiver's location will be added. That would mean his Arceus should have "Japan, Hiroshima" right?
Chamdee Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Sorry mini change topic... Need help: what is a good trade phrase in korean? Like: LF/FT, 求/出
Keisuke Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 yes I would think so Would mean it's the same Arceus as the non-shiny one. Same file. No trade in this case.
theSLAYER Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Sorry mini change topic... Need help: what is a good trade phrase in korean? Like: LF/FT, 求/出 Using 求/出, I got 요구 / 출 from Google Translate. I reversed the words back, and 요구 means Demand, and 출.. is exodus!? Google Translate, not the most trustworthy. (as usual) Using alternate words in English, this is the result: Looking For => 찾고 Gift => 선물 I reversed the words they gave me, and the meanings held.
DemonKlyd Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 To all the responses above this post.... However, since you (DemonKlyd) seems to be doubting the legitimacy of your own Arceus (if all your Arceus came from trades), you may want to take it off ebay at the very least. (I think you claimed it to be official there or something) ... Precisely what I just did, it's gone until I get several serials in a few days from a friend living there. Sorry for the troubles. Will be contributing when it comes 100% from my serials.
Chamdee Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 The japanese one was what they were using. I was just following trend. Ok i will try looking for and gift
DemonKlyd Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Would mean it's the same Arceus as the non-shiny one. Same file. No trade in this case. I got scammed, that's pretty much it, nothing more to say I guess... And in case you're wondering, yes I paid a guy to get it in the first place. So I lost some money myself. I'll be filtering my sources more efficiently in the future. Still I should be getting my own serials from a friend living there in a few days. It can't go wrong when I redeem them myself then.
ElseSomeone Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 That you can redeem multiple types of Arceus suggests different WCIDs and thus different SIDs....those are probably hacked. I've redeem Arceus by myself, the WC id is not registered in the savegame, that's mean all wondercards have the same id but different item. I don't share my wondercard to the public right now, but if you want to study her, I can share that with you. @theSLAYER Residence works like that : If the owner receive it by himself, there is nothing. If the owner trade the Arceus to someone, the 3ds datas of the new owner will be set at the latest residence. If the latest owner decide to trade the pokemon, the 3ds datas will be put at the previous position (Past1), and then the datas of the new owner will be put at latest and so on.. I hope i've been clear.
Chamdee Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Now, I now know why not one will post about keldeo. (。。)
theSLAYER Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Now, I now know why not one will post about keldeo. (。。) I don't see how that proves the event isn't out. It just means that no one traded one out of korea
ElseSomeone Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I don't see how that proves the event isn't out.It just means that no one traded one out of korea I have the Korean Keldeo, do you want all the informations ?
Chamdee Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I mean... Nintendo of korea has blocked it or something. Like no originally obtained from serial code is able to be traded away. Ever since it was out Feb 25? And until now Untradable.
Chamdee Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Im looking for a wondercard of it. I saw a post saying that it's out in the internet. Just i have to find it
ElseSomeone Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I don't know, someone has traded one and it looks fully legal Maybe the one that are unable to be traded are the fake one no ?
ElseSomeone Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 This is all the informations of the Keldeo : http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Korean_region_serial_code_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_Generation_VI#Strategy_Guide_Keldeo I can also add that the id are : 2055/1023
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