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<p><p><p><p><p><p>Overall, I don't see this whole "no counters" thing as anything. Sure, Machamp was impossible to have a true counter, but there was Slowbro and Spiritomb, and now the new Cofagrigus can deal with him too. I guess it's because they have obscure counters they get the boot? Idk. I know Machamp was never booted, but that's just an example. Same for Garchomp: Skill Link Cloyster worked pretty well as a counter, breaking through Yache and Icicle Spear scarily beating it... though it was 22.5 * 5 back in Gen IV (11.25 + 22.5*4 if you count Yache Berry). Reuniclus still has some counters like Spiritomb and such. I'm just wondering if it's just some fad. And remember Unaware Quaggy vs Blaziken? Yeah... fine HP Grass, but that loses out to Chandelure and more prominent threats, and + 2 HJK OHKOs Swampert and company.</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>I think it's all about prominence and whatnot. The counters are "obscure"... so I guess that's why they get the boot? And one problem: Slowbro is <em>actually</em> being used.</p></p></p></p></p></p>
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<p><p><p><p><p><p>Overall, that was an objection to a post you made since you were mentioning the + 2 versions and making it sound like Blaziken can SD and SE at the same turn. Slowbro does counter the SD versions, MUCH better than most other Pokemon.</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>You know what? Scald is being a little weak <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/unsure.png" alt=":/" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/unsure@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>Might as well run Surf on most waters or put enough investment to OHKO some fires with Scald. I did that with Jellicent, but vs Chandelure w/SR support. </p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>It's really ridiculous when Fires beat Waters easily. Like, I knew it'd happen one day but not like this <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/sleep.png" alt="-_-" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/sleep@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>Oh, + 2 LO Flare Blitz vs 252 HP Conkeldurr: 132.9% - 156.5%</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>vs 252 HP/252 Def Conkeldurr: 104.3% - 122.7%</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>vs 252 HP/252 Def IMPISH Conkeldurr: 94.9% - 111.8%</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>No counter in that. Slowbro is. However, that's some HUGE recoil. Heh heh.</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>CB Adamant 252 Atk Conkeldurr Mach Punch vs Blaziken: 50.8% - 60.1%</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>With Iron Fist I'd imagine that's 20% of that increase, which would be like ~60% - 72%. Recoil might KO Blaze though <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/mellow.png" alt=":|" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/mellow@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>
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<p><p><p><p><p><p>Thunderpunch > Shadow Claw. Thunderpunch is 150, Stone Edge is 100, Hi Jump Kick is 97.5 vs Slowbro. You won't see Tpunch though because HJK does more to most waters while Stone Edge nails Gyarados. Why no Psychic on Slowbro? There's like tons of fighters.</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>There's never 100% counters to anything AT ALL. Remember, speed boost Blaziken. Most are the stupid SD/Flare Blitz/HJK/Stone Edge, which is what everyone is saying "No Switch Ins" and whatever because at + 2 HJK OHKOs nearly anything w/SR. Ones with HP Elec will fall to Swampert and the likes... and that means Chandelure will have an easier time too, methinks, just to hit Slowbro? I'm just thinking that the standard Blaziken is definitely countered by Slowbro and where your post was like "there's no counters", I'm like, that doesn't sound right <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/mellow.png" alt=":|" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/mellow@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>Conkeldurr? I doubt it OHKOs aside from EQ and gets 2HKOd by Flare Blitz in return. Azumarill on the other hand, I was thinking, can survive at least one move and OHKO back with Aqua Jet?</p></p></p></p></p></p>
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<p><p><p><p><p><p>I'm rather quite busy this week. Also I have no access to Wifi whatsoever. There are PLENTY of people you can battle / meet up / etc . . .</p></p></p></p></p></p>
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<p><p><p><p><p><p>"Slowbro takes 49% - 57.9% from a +2 Hi Jump Kick and 50.3% - 59.4% from a +2 Stone Edge, you're not switching slowbro in on it, it'll get demolished.</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>There are no Blaziken counters... I'm sick of having to tell people this."</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>Wait. If Blaziken SDs while Slowbro switches in, can't Slowbro's Psychic/Surf destroy it while Blaziken Stone Edges? (just in case you are forgetting as usual, <strong>Blaziken CANNOT Swords Dance + attack at the same turn</strong>), and people don't generally switch a Slowbro in AFTER Blaziken SD'd, but WHILE Blaziken SD'd. Get what I'm saying? If it didn't SD, it's only taking half of what you listed, making it able to counter. Why didn't I think of this before? <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/unsure.png" alt=":/" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/unsure@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>However, I'm assuming that STAB Psychic or Surf will OHKO Blaziken. If there is no investment, will it? Which Slowbro is this.. 252 HP/252 Def Bold?</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>Unless Slowbro doesn't OHKO Blaziken, then this guy is a counter to SD versions.</p></p></p></p></p></p>
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<p><p><p><p><p><p>VERY preoccupied with my own life atm. Though, here's the read of the day.</p></p></p></p></p></p>
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<p><p><p><p><p><p>Have fun reading <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/sleep.png" alt="-_-" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/sleep@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>Did not know such people existed. Oh well.</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>And cowbells will come after I'm done with my finals.</p></p></p></p></p></p>
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<p><p><p><p><p><p>Sorry, I haven't ran into a shiny since Red Gyarados in HGSS.</p></p></p></p></p></p>
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<p><p><p><p><p><p>According to the "current birthdays", it was. Unless that was a false one. Now tell me when your real one is you pretentious bast-*gets shot*</p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>Oh you lovely creature <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/biggrin.png" alt=":D" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/biggrin@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>
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<p><p><p><p><p><p><img src="http://dailydamocles.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/mushroom-cloud-hb1.jpg" alt="mushroom-cloud-hb1.jpg" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">It's Super Effective !!</span></strong></p></p></p></p></p></p>
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<p><p><p><p><p><p>Pokemon FTW</p></p></p></p></p></p>
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<p><p><p><p><p><p>Nah just playing <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/tongue.png" alt=":P" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/tongue@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>You've been a staff for the longest time. What happened now? <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/unsure.png" alt=":/" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/unsure@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>
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<p><p><p><p><p><p>You know what? I'm too scared to even try <img src="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/sleep.png" alt="-_-" srcset="<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/sleep@2x.png 2x" width="20" height="20" /></p></p></p></p></p></p>
<p><p><p><p><p><p>Broke down in an intense fever and er... I won't be online for that reason along with exams and stuffamajic.</p></p></p></p></p></p>