Scwib Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) [ELEKCHODE] Electrode @ Focus Sash Hasty - Static 252 ATK - 28 SATK - 228 SPD -Explosion -Taunt -Thunder -Rain Dance [WIFEBEATER] Ludicolo @ Leftovers Calm - Swift Swim 204 HP - 76 SATK - 128 SDEF - 100 SPE -Grass Knot -Ice Beam -Substitute -Leech Seed [TOASTER] Registeel @ Damp Rock Impish - Clear Body 252 HP - 200 DEF - 56 SDEF -Explosion -Rain Dance -Earthquake -Superpower [MOLLUSK] Omastar @ Life Orb Modest - Swift Swim 4 HP - 252 SATK - 252 SPD -Surf -Ice Beam -Earth Power -HP Electric [WATERFOX] Floatzel @ Life Orb Adamant - Swift Swim 4 HP - 252 ATK - 252 SPE -Waterfall -Ice Punch -Crunch -Brick Break [PIXIE] Uxie @ Leftovers Relaxed - Levitate 252 HP - 160 DEF - 96 SDEF -Psychic -U-Turn -Rain Dance -Yawn This Uxie sets up Rain Dance, then yawns. As the opponent switches out, I use U-Turn to get a look at their pokemon and switch in a counter for it. Psychic is also there to give a good counter to Fighting and Poison Pokemon. Edited October 6, 2009 by Scwib Changed the team up a lot.
memjee Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Try putting info and roles on your pokemon, so we get a better understanding of where your teams standing. I've never really done UU teams but it looks pretty good to me. Amibipom - Strongest Fake Out in the game. The moveset looks good to me, return's a good choice, but how about stealth rock? Silk Scarf is also a decent option but focus sash is the superior option. Ninetales is a good pokemon, though it contridicts the rain dance, since u mixed your team with rain dance Omastar is a better option, but actually I see Kabutops as a even better option. You already have enough special attackers and Kabutops is a extremely efficient rain dance user (so is omastar though) Weezing - Good stuff, an explosion is never bad, taking out desisive pokemon that cause you trouble Mismaguis - Everything good here Ludicolo - If properly set up you got a good staller in your hands (Rain Dish Won't last forever though) Try Protect to abuse the rain dish/leftovers and stalling moves better Primeape - Don't know my primeapes but it looks good
ParaDoX65 Posted October 4, 2009 Posted October 4, 2009 (edited) Well, I think your rain team looks good. One idea I have is to replace electrode. [sprite]053[/sprite] Persian@damp rock 252 Spd, 252 Atk, 4 HP Jolly Limber/Technician -U-turn -Rain Dance -Hypnosis -Taunt This is all based on personal preference. I use Persian for her ability to set up rain multiple times. Usually, Electrode sets up RD and explodes. Persian, on the other hand can, can set up RD, put an opponant to sleep and safely switch out with u-turn. The reason I recommend this is because Ludicolo and Omastar that your using don't need to do much to set up other than RD. Just have persian use her 115 Base spees to launch off taunts and hypnosis, RD, and U-turn. Another plus to Persian is Limber which can let her switch in on predicted T-waves. You could also use technician for added power, or even better, Ambipom, though limber is usually prefered. You'll really need to watch out for priority users just like with any other frail pokemon, but Persian is one cat who doesn't mind the rain! (It would also cut down on your Ground weakness, but Persian isn't going to take many hits, Watch out for Mold Breaker!) Edited October 5, 2009 by ParaDoX65 I Forgot the EV's
Scwib Posted October 5, 2009 Author Posted October 5, 2009 I see electrode being of more value to me than Persion. 1. Electrode out-speeds every UU and NU Pokemon. 2. With Focus Sash, I can easily set up a Taunt, and then at LEAST Rain Dance before dieing. - Electrode's speed is very important for using Taunt. If you led with your Persion, I would hit you with Taunt first, making your Taunt, Hypnosis, and Rain Dance pointless. 3. Explosion. - This move speaks for itself, if I end up getting Focus Sash's 1HP survival after I successfully Taunt and Rain Dance, well there's not going to be much use for him anymore, so why not finish it off with a big bang? 4. Thunder. - This move will more often than not go unused, but it gets an added accuracy boost in the Rain, and will take down Crobat and Charizard leads. 5. Soundproof. - For some stupid reason, Smogon decided to put Yanmega in the UU tier. Electrode is one of the best counters for Yanmega because of it's Soundproof, and super speed stat.
wraith89 Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 I still think we need a physical sweeper or a mixed wallbreaker that benefits from the rain too... like Huntail or Kabutops =/ Persian is there for consideration though... if Electrode fails. I also had an Articuno set up rain, but not immediately from the start.
Illithian Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Your team doesn't make use of rain enough. You want every pokemon in some way to fit into the concept, which is obviously rain. When I tried to make a rain team, I tried to get every pokemon involved, and even then when I posted an RMT over on smogon, I was told to add more rain things. Weezing is outclassed in every way by Registeel and Nidoking should be replaced by another rain sweeper. Just simple stuff.
Scwib Posted October 5, 2009 Author Posted October 5, 2009 I appreciate the positive criticism, but please give examples of what I should switch out and replace what with what, etc. I am quite fond of my Qeezing, he works very well in UU as well as in OU. I will look at Kabutops. I never use my Ludicolo, and when I do, he doesn't work very well... maybe I just don't know how to use him effectively yet?
ParaDoX65 Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 For a Physical Sweeper you could try Qwilfish. I find him attractive because of Explosion. [sprite]211[/sprite] Qwilfish@ Focus Sash Adamant 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP Swift swim -Waterfall -Poison Jab -Explosion -Rain Dance He can set up rain on his own if need be and can sacrifice himself to take out a major problem. He may not be as potent as Kabutops but explosion is the whole reason why I use him. Waterfall and Poison Jab don't get the best coverage but the dual stab does help. You could also use a Mixed Floatzel. He is a great choice for hitting on both sides of the spectrum As for Ludicolo, I've seen many sets for him. I recommend taking off substitute and replacing it with Rain Dance to add in a little more rain support. You could put Surf in place of Grass Knot, but I think that Grass knot is a better choice against bulky waters. It does take a while to get used to certain pokemon, just keep at it! ;D
Scwib Posted October 5, 2009 Author Posted October 5, 2009 Thanks for the advice, I was looking at Quilfish a bit but decided to go with a physical Floatzel. I added much more rain coverage so my Ludicolo will be okay.
wraith89 Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Your team doesn't make use of rain enough. You want every pokemon in some way to fit into the concept, which is obviously rain. When I tried to make a rain team, I tried to get every pokemon involved, and even then when I posted an RMT over on smogon, I was told to add more rain things. Weezing is outclassed in every way by Registeel and Nidoking should be replaced by another rain sweeper. Just simple stuff. ... only Weezing has Will-o-Wisp, can Pain Split, Haze stuff around, is not trapped by Magneton and walled by it while the magnet can Magnet Rise... outclassed much? I think not. Although you might think of using Thunder on Weezing now that it is in a rain team... but if you are going to use Registeel, invest in a lot of Special Defense. It is one of the premier special walls in UU... and is just annoying. It might come in handy though... but do not dismiss Weezing if you need a physical wall. Also I do not know why people love Choice Banding/Specing their Floatzels... I would use Life Orb for versatility. Besides, Floatzel is not exactly very durable.
Illithian Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 To be honest, I'm just relaying information. My old rain team got lots of crits like that. You can see what people said here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56125 Essentially, I was told that ideally there is 2 physical and 1 special rain sweeper. At least 3 rain setups. The rest generally have synergy to help the rest of the team function. I'm not very good at UU, so... well, thats all the advice I can give.
Scwib Posted October 6, 2009 Author Posted October 6, 2009 im sorry but my rain dance team looks a lot better than yours did.
Mogely Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 If you need a UU Physical sweeper you could do worse than Kabutops @ Life Orb Ability Swift Swim EVs 4 HP/ 252 Att/ 252 Spd Moveset X Scissor Waterfall Stone Edge Sword Dance/Rain Dance With the rain already up Uxie isn't doing much for you so I would switch out for this set. Rain Teams are normally quick to sweep anyway
Scwib Posted October 6, 2009 Author Posted October 6, 2009 With the rain already up? What about when the rain stops? Uxie does a lot actually, with its Yawn+U-Turn combo, Psychic, and setting up Rain Dance, Uxie is pretty vital to my team at this point. And I have a Physical Sweeper on the team if you didn't notice.
wraith89 Posted October 7, 2009 Posted October 7, 2009 Hmmm... actually, you might want to replace Psychic for Stealth Rocks. Or... get rid of Registeel's Superpower for either Iron Head or Stealth Rocks. In a rain team, you really want Stealth Rocks so that 1) Focus Sashes are no longer a problem and 2) ensure neat 2-OHKOs on certain Pokemon. Bottom line: get Stealth Rocks in there somewhere, you need it.
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