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During my playthrough of Generation V of the games, I felt that some pokemon especially potentially powerful species are only available after the E4, including ones that involve Fishing or only at Victory Road. These powerful species being late bloomers will not make it in time for the trainer, assuming that he is not using Pokesav, to train them to a point they are capable of taking on the Elite Four and Team Plasma's elite members.

To add salt to the wound, the creators of the game actually only allowed fishing to be accessible after the E4. So the player will have to contend with fewer species to choose from within the game! This is only made worse with the fact that White Forest or certain routes are only available after you defeat the E4; Some of those routes contain many potentially powerful species too.

This hack will seek to resolve the issues by changing the encounter locations of certain species as if they were an ecology and also gives the player more choices to pick for their next fighter in the team.

This hack will not add Pokemon from previous generations unless they are to be encounter in that place only after the Elite 4. Pokemon Black/white is now also more of a hunter's expedition because some good species have be edited to be rare so the player is going to have to go through a few more wild encounters before you will encounter that "potentially powerful" or rare species for your team.

Testers and suggestions are welcome

Credits

Myself-- Siam on Project Pokemon/ FlameEntei on Pokecommunity.

Drayano – the first guy to edit wild encounters in B/W

Aragornbird- For teaching me how to edit wild Encounters

Kazowar- Evolution editor

Andibad- For being supportive of my hack

Twistedfate- Creation of the stats editor and Wild editor.

Features:

1. More species to catch

2. Starters are catchable

Oshawott: Route 1- Surf

Tepig- Dreamyard- Grass

Snivy- Pinwheel Forest Inner

3. No need to fish to encounter some species

Route 1

Grass

Wingull- Nuvema Town is quite close to the sea.

Pidove

Surf

Basculin removed[bass do not live in seawater]

Wingull

Feebas

Oshawott

Surf Spot

Shellder

Remoraid

Corsola

Route 2

Pidove

Vullaby[black]

Rufflet[White]

Panpour

Pansear

Pansage

Dreamyard - Tribute to Chernobyl incident; after humans have abandoned it, Chernobyl became a wildlife sanctuary.

Tepig - My heart goes out to the wildboars eating radioactive shrooms in the area

Deerling- Deer are thriving wel quite well in chernobyll.

Vullaby[black]

Rufflet[White]

Spinarak

Rattata

Venonat

Kricketot

Ledyba

Route 3

Yanma

Ducklett

Psyduck

Volbeat[black]

Illumise[White]

Wellspring Cave

Drilbur

Dunsparce

Ferroseed

Durant

Heatmor

Aron

Surf

Slowpoke

Poliwag

Pinwheel Forest outer

Surskit

Croagunk

Mankey

Pinwheel Forest inner

Deerling

Mankey

Snivy

Rufflet[White]

Caterpie

Weedle

Route 4

Sand

Vullaby[black]

Sandshrew

Surf

Krabby-60%

Clamperl-30%

Relicath-5%

Luvdisc-4%

Luvdisc-1%

Surf Spots

luvdisc 60%

Relicath 40%

Desert Resort

Vullaby[black]

Sandshrew

Hippopotas

Baltoy

Relic Castle

Onix

Baltoy

Trapinch

Geodude

Sandshrew

Route 5--So much trash-- too little scavengers

Burmy Trash Coat- it likes taking trash for clothes

Vulpix- In the UK, foxes are common scavengers

Murkrow

Swablu- It like to clean rubbish anyway

Zigzagoon- Unova was based on US, so raccoons are common.

Durant

Route 16

Hoot Hoot

Bidoof

Lostlorn Forest

Pineco

Shroomish[black]

Paras[White]

Rufflet[White]

Ducklett

Caterpie

Weedle

Deerling

Zorua[^_^]

Mistralton Cave

Larvitar

Geodude

Mawile

Route 17

Horsea-testing

Finneon-Testing

Oshawott

Driftveil Bridge.

Pidgey

Wingull

Spearow

Taillow

Starly

Swanna

Driftveil City

Surf

Krabby

Chinchou

luvdisc

Surfspot

LuvDisc

Buizel

Route 7

Bouffalant- So much grass, so little herbivores?

Axew

Deino

Celestial Tower

Fans of Ghost types, I have added many powerful Ghost Pokemon in the Celestial Tower but please be patient in encounters.

2F

Misdreavus

Shuppet

Duskull

Gastly

3F

Misdreavus

Shuppet

Duskull

Gastly

4F

Shuppet

Duskull

5F

Driffloon- Balloons fly to a great height and their power of flight should see them coming to Unova.

Reducing Litwick encounter rates-- At such a height and so windy, one would expect a Fire type to get out of here to avoid getting its flame snuffed out

4. Gym Leaders are stronger

Gym Leaders will not be so easy to defeat as their teams become a little more diverse in their moves. The first 4 gym leaders will have Pokemon of slightly higher levels. Somewhat at above 20 and below 30

Gym Leader Chili

Darumaka

Incinerate

Fire Fang

Tackle

Rage

Pansear

Incinerate

Work Up

Grass Knot

Fury Swipes

Gym Leader Cilan

Cottonee [black]

Absorb

Growth

Leech Seed

Stun Spore

Petilil [White]

Absorb

Growth

Leech Seed

Sleep Powder

Pansage

Vine Whip

Work Up

Rock Tomb

Fury Swipes

Gym Leader Cress

Tympole

Bubble

Supersonic

Round

Bubblebeam

Panpour

Water Gun

Work Up

Ice Beam

Fury Swipes

Gym Leader Lenora

Minccino

Doubleslap

Pound

Encore

Swift

Herdier

Take Down

Bite

Retaliate

Leer

Watchog

Dream Eater

Crunch

Retaliate

Hypnosis

Gym Leader Burgh

Whirlipede

Poison Tail

Struggle Bug

Screech

Rollout

Dwebble

Smack Down

Struggle Bug

Bug Bite

Rock Blast

Leavanny

Razor Leaf

Struggle Bug

Bug Bite

X-scissor

Gym Leader Elesa

Emolga

Pursuit

Quick Attack

Volt Switch

Aerial Ace

Emolga

Pursuit

Quick Attack

Volt Switch

Aerial Ace

Zebstrika

Quick Attack

Spark

Volt Switch

Flame Charge

Eelektrik

Acrobatics

Volt Switch

Charge Beam

Bind

Gym Leader Clay

Stunfisk

Mud Bomb

Thundershock

Muddy Water

Thunderbolt

Krokorok

Crunch

Incinerate

Bulldoze

Earthquake

Palpitoad

Muddy Water

Aqua Ring

Bulldoze

Venoshock

Excadrill

Slash

Rock Slide

Bulldoze

Metal Claw

Gym Leader Skyla

Swoobat

Heart Stamp

Amnesia

Acrobatics

Assurance

Unfezant

Quick Attack

Air Slash

Leer

Razor Wind

Swanna

Ice Beam

Aerial Ace

Air Slash

Bubblebeam

Archeops

Acrobatics

Crunch

Pluck

Bulldoze

Gym Leader Brycen

Beartic

Slash

Frost Breath

Icicle Crash

Surf

Conversations edited

Dreamyard

To reflect the Dreamyard encounter changes, Prof. Fennel's conversations have been edited to reflect it. She will explain the Dreamyard's origins and how it got to this current state.

Sends out <next Pokemon>

I have edited a small segment where the Trainer will not get to know which Pokemon is the opponent going to send out. This adds to excitement and suspense to the battle.

Trainers edited

Trainers will have more Pokemon since the new encounters will reflect in their teams. For EXP for the player.

Release Date

May - June 2011

Edited by Siam
Posted

I see that there is a BW trainer editor. Still exploring...

However the wild encounter editing still remains a mystery and rocket science.

Posted

While the idea is admirable, I'd rather see a list like this

Route 1-3 Add Pidove

Wellspring Cave Add Drillbur, just put them in the 1% appearence chance, and make the dust cloud ones higher leveled.

Pinwheel Forest (Inside) add Minccino, add 1%Deerling, and Rare Munna

Route 4 and Desert Resort add Vullaby, vultures in the desert, makes sense.

Route 6 add Rufflet to the shakey grass

Twist Montain add Swoobat

Victory Road add Gigalith, Gurdurr, Swoobat, and Crustle

Another Note, Gym Leader Changes

Lenora, add a Audino

Burgh-Shellmet, Karrablast, Whirlipede, and Leavanny

Elesa-Emolga, Elektrik, Zebstrika

Clay-Palpitoad, Krokork, Stunfisk, Excadrill

Skyla-Swoobat, Unfeazant, Arceops, Swanna

Brycen-Cryogonal, Vanilluxe, Beartic

Drayden/Iris-Druddigon, Zweilous, Fraxure, Haxorus

All Gym Leaders seem to know the early evolution trick anyways...

Also, after Cheren leaves to backtrack Route 4, a Dwebble should be added to his team, and after Chargestone Cave, Bianca should add a Klink to her team.

Marshal's team should be

Sawk, Throh, Scrafty, Conkledurr

Caitlen's team

Beeheyeem, Gothitelle, Reunculus, Musharna

Shauntel's stays the same

Grimsley's team

Mandibuzz, Liepard, Bisharp, Krookodile

N's final team should be

Meinshao, Escavaleir, Lilligant, Zoroak, Carracosta, R@m

Ghetis's team

Accelegor, Galvantula, Ferrothorn, Gigalith, Hydreigon, Seismitoad

Alder's Team

Braivairy, Sawsbuck, Elektross, Bouffolant, Volcorona, Victini*

*with V-create.

This GL setup allows the maximum amount of Dex Fillings without needing to search far and wide, and some match the charecters, N, the king, with a Princess and a twisted Knight for example.

Posted

Great minds think alike! But too bad there is not shortcut way to edit the wild encounters of Black or White.

But Trainer editor has just popped out. Just too little time for me to test it. :P

Posted

I can state the trainer edits I suggested work wonders, my first playthrough of english White was done with those changes, it made a bit of a challange, and allowed for an easier dex fillup.

I actually tried to dabble in a tutorial I had found to edit the wild Pokemon data in hex, but my R0m wouldn't work, becuase the line no longer existed, which was wierd since the game played normally.

Posted

I also suggest that the gym leaders of Striaton be changed too. I really dun think their Lillipups are serious enough to be taken seriously.

Leader Cilan

1. Cottonee lvl 12 [black]/ Petilil lvl 12 [White]

3. Pansage lvl 14

Leader Chili

1. Darumaka lvl 12.

2. Pansear lvl 14

Leader Cress

1. Tympole lvl 12.

2. Panpour lvl 14

I am seriously considering if Gym Leaders can also use Pokemon of the opposing type to cover their team's weaknesses?

Posted
I am seriously considering if Gym Leaders can also use Pokemon of the opposing type to cover their team's weaknesses?

I would not break this Pokémon-canon if I were you because it would be very non-Pokémonish, but it's your hack.

Posted

Actually it would not be that far off nor unrealistic if the Gym leader may accept a type that covers his team's weaknesses. Besides

it doesn't have to be a certain type pokemon to go against a certain type. He can teach a move to counter such a weakness.

For example,

If I were Cilan and his two brothers and I know that some lady is giving the player a Deus Ex Machima[Elemental Monkey of opposing type.], I would discuss with my brothers on a way to counter that. One way is to teach our beloved elemental monkeys a move that can help defend themselves.

Pansage = Rock Tomb [Effective against fire]

Pansear = Grassknot [Effective againt water]

Panpour = Ice Beam [Effective against grass]

That is what I like about Elesa but just that needs to do better against rock types. Her two Emolgas cannot be hit by ground type moves but are severly grounded by rock. If she puts a Chinchou which is obtainable in Unova, She can take out the opponent's pokemon; your ground/rock type Pokemon on your deck.

Posted

Proposed changes to the Gym Leaders.

Gym Leader Chili

Darumaka

Incinerate

Fire Fang

Tackle

Rage

Pansear

Incinerate

Work Up

Grass Knot

Fury Swipes

Gym Leader Cilan

Cottonee [black]

Absorb

Growth

Leech Seed

Stun Spore

Petilil [White]

Absorb

Growth

Leech Seed

Sleep Powder

Pansage

Vine Whip

Work Up

Rock Tomb

Fury Swipes

Gym Leader Cress

Tympole

Bubble

Supersonic

Round

Bubblebeam

Panpour

Water Gun

Work Up

Ice Beam

Fury Swipes

Gym Leader Lenora

Minccino

Doubleslap

Pound

Encore

Swift

Herdier

Take Down

Bite

Retaliate

Leer

Watchog

Dream Eater

Crunch

Retaliate

Hypnosis

Gym Leader Burgh

Whirlipede

Poison Tail

Struggle Bug

Screech

Rollout

Dwebble

Smack Down

Struggle Bug

Bug Bite

Rock Blast

Leavanny

Razor Leaf

Struggle Bug

Bug Bite

X-scissor

Gym Leader Elesa

Emolga

Pursuit

Quick Attack

Volt Switch

Aerial Ace

Emolga

Pursuit

Quick Attack

Volt Switch

Aerial Ace

Zebstrika

Quick Attack

Spark

Volt Switch

Flame Charge

Eelektrik

Acrobatics

Volt Switch

Charge Beam

Bind

Gym Leader Clay

Stunfisk

Mud Bomb

Thundershock

Muddy Water

Thunderbolt

Krokorok

Crunch

Incinerate

Bulldoze

Earthquake

Palpitoad

Muddy Water

Aqua Ring

Bulldoze

Venoshock

Excadrill

Slash

Rock Slide

Bulldoze

Metal Claw

Gym Leader Skyla

Swoobat

Heart Stamp

Amnesia

Acrobatics

Assurance

Unfezant

Quick Attack

Air Slash

Leer

Razor Wind

Swanna

Ice Beam

Aerial Ace

Air Slash

Bubblebeam

Archeops

Acrobatics

Crunch

Pluck

Bulldoze

Gym Leader Brycen

Beartic

Slash

Frost Breath

Icicle Crash

Surf

Posted

Heh, when I read the "wild" in the topic I thought you meant putting generation 01-04/Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh Pokémon in the part before E4. Maybe worth a new idea thread, maybe not. I'll just put that here. :)

Posted

I will be focusing more on Unova exclusive species. However lower forms of some Sinnoh or Hoeun Pokeon that are found only on routes accessible after Elite 4 will be transfered to routes that are accessible before the Elite 4.

Posted

I am quite in a dilenma if I really should add some Gen 1- 4 species too.

Black City and White Forest are not accessible until Elite 4.

Posted

I think putting foreign pokemon in 'rare' spots would be cool, but the desert, where the most foreign pokemon would end up, has no rare patches. Mabye put the rare pokemon in the last slots for route 4...Trapinch, Cacnea, Baltoy...

Also, on the Driftveil Bridge

Pidgeotteo, Masquerian, Wingull, Taillow, Ducklett-by day

Haunter by night.

And digletts could share the dust circles with Drillbur.

Posted

Hmm what kinds of Pokemon would like to hang out at bridges... Haunters would be a bit strange

Hoot Hoots maybe?

Posted

Wingulls should be commonplace in areas close to the sea, I like the concept of Jellyfish being ghost type but too much is too much still. With that many jellyfish, their predators would be quite having a good time. Alomomola should be quite common. Sunfishes in real life eat jellyfish.

Alomomola's range will be increased in response to Frillish population.

Wingull and Pellipers will restricted to oceanic areas but can be made available in Surfing.

Lillipup's family ranges will be significantly decreased

Basculin I am still looking into it.

Ducklett's range will be made a lot wider extending their reach in fresh water areas. You can also encounter Swannas too

Spheals or Seels will be encountered sometimes but I am still looking at how to distribute them as Nature would do so.

Deerling's ranges will be increased.

Joltik's range will be extended out of Chargestone Cave to reflect Durant populations.

Heatmor's range will be extended slightly

Lostlorn and Pinwheel Forest will have

Bird Pokemon like Rufflet, Chatot, Pidgey, Swellow.

bug types like Weedle, Caterpie, Combee, Burmy.......

Durant will be made as common as lillipups. We still contend their real life relatives today, not sure why is Durant not that commonplace given the amount of ants we encounter in our lifetime.

Posted

Correction, durant will only be found near mountainous, caves.etc So will its predator Heatmor's range be extend in response. Almost like some ecology.

Durant and Heatmor can be found in Pinwheel forest too but will be rare.

The Celestial Tower which is full of Ghosts will be populated with Gastly, Duskulls, Shuppets, Misdreavus.

The Drifveil Bridge will not just have Duckletts but I will add Driffloons at night.

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

With the 5th Gen Evolution editor, I have the ability to hack the evolutions of some Pokemon.

Gurdurr evolves into Conkeldurr at lvl 45

Boldore evolves into Gigalith at lvl 42

Karrablast and Shelmet evolves just by having them side to side in the trainer's party

Posted

Now editting trade evolving Pokemon

Current Progress: Trade Evolved Pokemon tested so far and passed my intial testings

Kadabra lvl40

Machoke lvl40

Graveller lvl40

Poliwhirl Level with King rock

Slowking level with King Rock

Onix Level with Metal Coat

Porygon Family tested completed. Level with Up-grade, Level with Dubious Disc

Rhydon level with Protector

Magmar Level with Magmarizer

electabuzz level with electirizer

Clamperl to Huntail[night] level with Deep Sea Tooth

Clamperl to Gorebliss[day] level with Deep Sea Scale

Scyther level with Metal Coat

In progress

Kirila line

Male Kirila--> Gallade [no stone needed]

Female Gardevoir--> Gardevoir

Posted

Big updates in the Wild Pokemon Encounters. have been made to the following. Check the first post for more details.

Wellspring Cave

Dreamyard

Pinwheel Forest

Posted

Yeah i was found many route but , i no edit them, just search only

I was found many place like route 14,

Like this (i used black ROM):

standart walking:

Slot 1 - 20% --> Goldduck

Slot 2 - 20% --> Jigglypuff

Slot 3 - 10% --> Tropius

Slot 4 - 10% --> Mienfoo

Slot 5 - 10% --> altaria

Slot 6 - 10% --> Drifblim

Slot 7 - 5% --> Shuckle

Slot 8 - 5% --> Beheeyem

Slot 9 - 4% --> Tropius

Slot 10 - 4% --> Beheeyem

Slot 11 - 1% --> Tropius

Slot 12 - 1% --> Beheeyem

Double wild walking:

Slot 1 - 20% --> Goldduck

Slot 2 - 20% --> Jigglypuff

Slot 3 - 10% --> Tropius

Slot 4 - 10% --> mienshao

Slot 5 - 10% --> altaria

Slot 6 - 10% --> Drifblim

Slot 7 - 5% --> Shuckle

Slot 8 - 5% --> Beheeyem

Slot 9 - 4% --> Tropius

Slot 10 - 4% --> Beheeyem

Slot 11 - 1% --> Tropius

Slot 12 - 1% --> Beheeyem

shaking grass walking:

Slot 1 - 20% --> Audino

Slot 2 - 20% --> Audino

Slot 3 - 10% --> Emolga

Slot 4 - 10% --> Audino

Slot 5 - 10% --> Audino

Slot 6 - 10% --> Audino

Slot 7 - 5% --> Audino

Slot 8 - 5% --> Audino

Slot 9 - 4% --> Wigglytuff

Slot 10 - 4% --> Audino

Slot 11 - 1% --> Wigglytuff

Slot 12 - 1% --> Audino

Surf:

Slot 1 - 60% --> Basculin

Slot 2 - 30% --> Buizel

Slot 3 - 5% --> Basculin (in white:Basculin blue strip)

Slot 4 - 4% --> Basculin (in white:Basculin blue strip)

Slot 5 - 1% --> Basculin (in white:Basculin blue strip)

Surfing spot:

Slot 1 - 60% --> Buizel

Slot 2 - 30% --> Basculin blue strip (in white:Basculin)

Slot 3 - 5% --> Floatzel

Slot 4 - 4% --> Floatzel

Slot 5 - 1% --> Floatzel

fishing:

Slot 1 - 60% --> Golden

Slot 2 - 30% --> Basculin (in white:Basculin blue strip)

Slot 3 - 5% --> Golden

Slot 4 - 4% --> Golden

Slot 5 - 1% --> Golden

fishing spot:

Slot 1 - 60% --> Golden

Slot 2 - 30% --> Basculin blue strip (white: basculin)

Slot 3 - 5% --> Seaking

Slot 4 - 4% --> Seaking

Slot 5 - 1% --> Seaking

HEX Value :
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00000008h: 37 00 2F 2F 27 00 30 30 ; 7.//'.00

00000010h: 65 01 30 30 6B 02 31 31 ; e.00k.11

00000018h: 4E 01 31 31 AA 01 31 31 ; N.11ª.11

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00000028h: 65 01 32 32 5E 02 32 32 ; e.22^.22

00000030h: 65 01 32 32 5E 02 32 32 ; e.22^.22

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00000048h: 4E 01 3B 3B AA 01 3B 3B ; N.;;ª.;;

00000050h: D5 00 3B 3B 5E 02 3A 3A ; Õ.;;^.::

00000058h: 65 01 3C 3C 5E 02 3C 3C ; e.<<^.<<

00000060h: 65 01 3C 3C 5E 02 3C 3C ; e.<<^.<<

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00000070h: 4B 02 30 30 13 02 30 30 ; K.00..00

00000078h: 13 02 31 31 13 02 32 32 ; ..11..22

00000080h: 13 02 32 32 13 02 32 32 ; ..22..22

00000088h: 28 00 32 32 13 02 32 32 ; (.22..22

00000090h: 28 00 32 32 13 02 32 32 ; (.22..22

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000000a8h: 26 02 19 37 A2 01 19 3C ; &..7¢..<

000000b0h: 26 0A 19 3C A3 01 23 46 ; &..<£.#F

000000b8h: A3 01 23 46 A3 01 23 46 ; £.#F£.#F

000000c0h: 76 00 23 37 26 02 23 37 ; v.#7&.#7

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Yeah many place, but is still not tested yet for route 5 and 16 is all same :/

That's all xD

Posted (edited)

Updated Route 18

Frillish 60%- the pokedex entry says that they are deepwater creatures

Chinchou-30%

Finneon- 5+4+1= 10%

Surfing Spot

Alomomola 60%

Finneon

Horsea

Route 17 and 18 look very similar in hex. Does anyone know which offset is Route 17?

Route 17

horsea 5+4+1= 10%

Oshawott-30%

Wingull-60%

Surfing Spot

Frillish

Edited by Siam

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