PID Mismatch - Origin Game DPPT HGSS (Pokefinder)

Hello, I have a problem, I captured Arceus using the Azure flute that I got as a mystery gift when I connected with the emulator to the CWF, but when using pkhex it came out as illegal, it says: "Invalid: Arceus from Hall of Origin. Unreleased Event." and I don't know how to fix it. I hope you can help me, thank you.

  On 3/29/2021 at 9:59 PM, Zeroxdz said:

I captured Arceus using the Azure flute

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well..

  On 3/29/2021 at 9:59 PM, Zeroxdz said:

"Invalid: Arceus from Hall of Origin. Unreleased Event."

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You kinda answered your own statement, by reading out the legality status from PKHeX.

The event is not released. Hence not legal. Do you not get it? ><

  On 3/29/2021 at 9:59 PM, Zeroxdz said:

Hello, I have a problem, I captured Arceus using the Azure flute that I got as a mystery gift when I connected with the emulator to the CWF, but when using pkhex it came out as illegal, it says: "Invalid: Arceus from Hall of Origin. Unreleased Event." and I don't know how to fix it. I hope you can help me, thank you.

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You can't fix it. PKHex will always mark it as illegal because the event was never released, so it could never be captured legally.

Ok, I understand, I did not know, when I looked for how to capture it in Diamond, it came out that if it could, that's why I thought that the event had been for that version. Thanks for clarifying.

  On 3/29/2021 at 10:29 PM, Zeroxdz said:

Ok, I understand, I did not know, when I looked for how to capture it in Diamond, it came out that if it could, that's why I thought that the event had been for that version. Thanks for clarifying.

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The event was programmed into the game, but GF/TPCi/Ninty ended up never releasing it.
You can hack the item/flag into your game to catch it, but it is still illegal, because there was no official distribution for it.

Just wondering, how exactly would I find the PID for an edited pokemon (a Scyther specifically) from the Bug-Catching Contest in HGSS? It takes place in the National Park and I imagine it would be considered a "wild pokemon" as it's manually caught, but PokeFinder doesn't show it in the list of pokemon in the National Park, nor does it show any other pokemon in the Bug-Catching Contest. I wanted to change the Scyther's nature and IVs, but can't seem to narrow down where/how it appears in PokeFinder.

Edit: It seems that searching through the "Stationary/Gift" method(s) rather than the "Wild" method works, though I had to fiddle around with the gender and IVs a bit.

  On 5/10/2021 at 1:01 AM, Arbn said:

Just wondering, how exactly would I find the PID for an edited pokemon (a Scyther specifically) from the Bug-Catching Contest in HGSS? It takes place in the National Park and I imagine it would be considered a "wild pokemon" as it's manually caught, but PokeFinder doesn't show it in the list of pokemon in the National Park, nor does it show any other pokemon in the Bug-Catching Contest. I wanted to change the Scyther's nature and IVs, but can't seem to narrow down where/how it appears in PokeFinder.

Edit: It seems that searching through the "Stationary/Gift" method(s) rather than the "Wild" method works, though I had to fiddle around with the gender and IVs a bit.

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How did you end up getting it to work? I'm trying to do the same for a Scyther from the National Park. I'm trying to change it's nature and ability but haven't found one that works yet.

  On 5/14/2021 at 12:23 PM, Mekanor said:

How did you end up getting it to work? I'm trying to do the same for a Scyther from the National Park. I'm trying to change it's nature and ability but haven't found one that works yet.

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If I'm being frank, I'm not sure if they got it to work as they intended.
(and I don't have the solution).

I'm guessing they just went with any Method 1/2/4 PID-IV combo and threw in a random level that is possible for that encounter.
I don't think PKHeX checks into encounter slots, so any PID-IV that fits Method 1/2/4 probably gets flagged as legal.

  On 5/14/2021 at 12:23 PM, Mekanor said:

How did you end up getting it to work? I'm trying to do the same for a Scyther from the National Park. I'm trying to change it's nature and ability but haven't found one that works yet.

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Searched for it in PokeFinder via the Gen 4 Stationary window. Allowing the (useless) Sp.Atk IVs to range between 0-31 seems to have allowed for more results, and I'm not sure of any other methods existing for legally edited Bug-Catching Contest pokemon. It was definitely flagged as legal afterwards, though I haven't tried transferring it to other games to see if it's blocked for any reason.

  On 5/17/2021 at 6:43 AM, Arbn said:

It was definitely flagged as legal afterwards, though I haven't tried transferring it to other games to see if it's blocked for any reason.

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The games have little to bone legality checking, so I doubt they would be blocked.

  On 5/17/2021 at 6:43 AM, Arbn said:

Searched for it in PokeFinder via the Gen 4 Stationary window. Allowing the (useless) Sp.Atk IVs to range between 0-31 seems to have allowed for more results, and I'm not sure of any other methods existing for legally edited Bug-Catching Contest pokemon

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I’m glad you shared your method, but as I said previously, it may not be properly legal. IIRC PKHeX doesn’t include encounter slots and met level (in unison) based on RNG into the checks. As long as the PIDIV has the correct methods of 1/2/4 (which not all may be possible due to the mon only being catchable in certain encounter slots), it’ll appear legal when it’s actually illegal.

so the real question is during National park bug catching, are the mons restricted by encounter slots (which frankly they probably are). I might post an update.

  On 5/17/2021 at 10:56 AM, theSLAYER said:

The games have little to bone legality checking, so I doubt they would be blocked.

I’m glad you shared your method, but as I said previously, it may not be properly legal. IIRC PKHeX doesn’t include encounter slots and met level (in unison) based on RNG into the checks. As long as the PIDIV has the correct methods of 1/2/4 (which not all may be possible due to the mon only being catchable in certain encounter slots), it’ll appear legal when it’s actually illegal.

so the real question is during National park bug catching, are the mons restricted by encounter slots (which frankly they probably are). I might post an update.

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I'm not really well-versed on encounter slots, especially since I'm not even sure entirely how the Bug-Catching Contest functions in relation to how caught pokemon are registered. I guess I just saw the "legal" checkmark appear after enough fidgeting and jumped on it.

How could I gen a Pokewalker PID type for Gen 4 HG/SS pkm?I did not see in tutorial

  On 5/7/2022 at 10:39 AM, paf said:

How could I gen a Pokewalker PID type for Gen 4 HG/SS pkm?I did not see in tutorial

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Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Pokéradar has known correlations. It has restrictions to what value could exist, but I don't think there's correlations. You're better off using Encounter Database on PKHeX to generate one.

  On 5/7/2022 at 11:34 AM, theSLAYER said:

Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Pokéradar has known correlations. It has restrictions to what value could exist, but I don't think there's correlations. You're better off using Encounter Database on PKHeX to generate one.

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In encounter database, I could find just one pokewalker pid that hold all the natures of my pkms as hard it does not matter what pkm is and the pokewalker pid is always the same.isn't there a tool or rule to gen the pokewalker pids?I could note for two legals pkms I have here that at least 4 digts of that pid as letter ''F'' but I don't know if this is a rule

  On 5/7/2022 at 2:20 PM, paf said:

In encounter database, I could find just one pokewalker pid that hold all the natures of my pkms as hard it does not matter what pkm is and the pokewalker pid is always the same.isn't there a tool or rule to gen the pokewalker pids?I could note for two legals pkms I have here that at least 4 digts of that pid as letter ''F'' but I don't know if this is a rule

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I did say I think there's no correlations, right?

And I also said "It has restrictions to what value could exist", so that perhaps is the 'rule' you've mentioned?

Assuming this information isn't inaccurate, this is probably what you're looking for in terms of 'rules':

Else, look at PKHeX Pokewalker's documentation.

Cheers.
 

  On 5/7/2022 at 5:13 PM, theSLAYER said:

I did say I think there's no correlations, right?

And I also said "It has restrictions to what value could exist", so that perhaps is the 'rule' you've mentioned?

Assuming this information isn't inaccurate, this is probably what you're looking for in terms of 'rules':

Else, look at PKHeX Pokewalker's documentation.

Cheers.
 

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Where could I found pkhex pokewalker's documentation?

  On 5/9/2022 at 5:03 AM, paf said:

Where could I found pkhex pokewalker's documentation?

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Try here:

https://github.com/kwsch/PKHeX/blob/a57f40ae7d878293d81d73826fdbf0c6cbe386e6/PKHeX.Core/Legality/RNG/MethodFinder.cs

youve said not to use them online but why? and what if i make them legal?

  On 11/2/2022 at 7:46 AM, _CanCan said:

youve said not to use them online but why? and what if i make them legal?

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Doesn’t matter. It’s something you made using third party tools. Thus hacked.

It being legal just means it wasn’t hacked to a illegal standard. Depending on what you’ve done, it is likely significantly hacked.

Using significantly hacked stuff against unsuspecting opponents are against our site rules.

Read up on what qualifies as significantly hacked as per our rules.

How can I edit a pokemon to get a shiny from a honeytree?

  On 5/11/2024 at 8:19 PM, solid.snake.21 said:

How can I edit a pokemon to get a shiny from a honeytree?

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  On 5/11/2024 at 8:19 PM, solid.snake.21 said:

How can I edit a pokemon to get a shiny from a honeytree?

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PokeFinder

how can be a search a pokemon shyni perfect or more perfect posible?

  On 5/12/2024 at 2:52 AM, ERNESTO JG said:

PokeFinder

 

 

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How? I can´t find the pokemon or the honeytree location
I´m using the v4.1.2

  On 5/12/2024 at 2:50 AM, ERNESTO JG said:

 

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AutoLegalityMOD changes my original SID, so doesn't works