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It's a lot better than... A Shadow Mewtwo... why not? Something like... Perhaps... or it might be too tough

Um... if I have this right... 1) Cianwood City 2) Route 42 (requires Surf and Cut to access Suicune) 3) Vermilion City (once you reach there via S.S. Aqua) 4) Route 14 (or 15?) 5) Cerulean Cape (you need all 16 badges first and you finally fight it) Question for everyone... what triggers Groudon's appearance in Soul Silver/Kyogre's appearance in Heart Gold? I have all 16 badges but there is nothing there... would I require some sort of item or whatnot? EDIT: Never mind... found out somehow

I found a level 3 Heracross at Azalea Town (behind Kurt's house and in courtesy of UnderXRay). I tried looking elsewhere and only got Spearows and Aipoms at the mountainous routes even if I used to get Heracross up there back in the original GSC. I understand your frustration since everyone else could find Hera and I couldn't... so try headbutting at Kurt's place.

When would Zapdos appear outside of the power plant? Do I have to beat Cerulean Gym first or something?

[hgsssprite]152[/hgsssprite] Playthrough as Chikorita [hgsssprite]152[/hgsssprite] "Are you a boy or a girl? Won't you please tell me?" ~ Professor Oak ^--- pervert alert! So like I said, if I ever get this game, I will take the challenge as the ridiculously challenged Chikorita. While Cyndaquil remained a great force to play as ever since GSC and Totodile got new tools to play with, Chikorita remained largely the same as her GSC counterpart: a support unit starter. And in-game definitely supports offensive type Pokemon more than support Pokemon as your main Pokemon. Not to mention how it is clearly disadvantaged against the first two gyms. Will it be possible to play through the game as Chikorita? In this thread I will write through with my experiences and show you that perhaps it is not all that impossible (or give up miserably). This will be divided into two arcs: Johto and Kanto... and at the end of each I will upload a save file (as usual) for people to download I suppose (and for me to back up). I should have put more screenshots... but I guess it couldn't be helped. I only thought about writing this whole thing now. Oh, and by the way, I have horrible luck. Yes, I do not believe in luck, but most people will know what I am talking about. Feel free to comment whenever possible. It is an in-progress thread and feedback would be greatly appreciated. Arc I: Johto League Starting the Game Characters: Well, okay, the beginning of the game is straightforward... although I cannot access my menu! What?! So I go downstairs... and talk to mom, and then she gives me stuff for a touch screen menu? SWEET! So I have to head to Professor Elm... and look out... but some girl's Marrill bumps into me. Oh hey it's Mario! The girl comes up to me and slaps me in the face saying, "NOT MARIO! My name is Lyra!" Oh... how nice. How was I supposed to know? I COULD see the resemblance Pippi Longstockings And some weird red haired boy is oddly standing at the left side of the lab. I go in to see what he is doing... and I find out the ugly truth: he is pissing on the side wall! Horrified I run away to tell mommy, but before he does that he shoves me, saying "what are you staring at?". Oh yeah?! Wanna mess? Once I get my Pokemon I will beat you into pulps... and tell everyone you were pissing at Professor Elm's lab. Anyways, into Professor Elm's... Professor Elm calls on Gold to come in to his lab for some fun... but gets some email before he gets to have his fun. This email is from Mr. Pokemon! He says he found an egg and apparently his other claims are just rants. Professor Elm, being as "busy" as always, just sends you to go for him instead. Okay... so time to pick a starter Pokemon!! So obviously I pick Chikorita, and go on in a journey of doom... fight Pokemon along the way, Pidgeys and Sentrets until I run to Cherrygrove City. But wait! Must talk to mom first... and she gives me a Pokegear. Fun. Now off to Cherrygrove. Ooh a berry tree? Wait, I can't get it. The first critical hit in this game went to the wild Pidgey who Tackled me for a whopping 8 damage. And here I am, at Cherrygrove City. Now some cheery old man comes in and tries to guide me, but he is WAY TOO FAST! How is he running that fast? I'm MUCH younger! Anyhow after a while he gives me the Running Shoes... and I'm able to run. Going off to Route 30 someone stops me... the Old Man wants to give me something else? Cool, a map card for the Pokegear! And I'm off... go to a house to find some guy giving me an Apricorn case. Whee... now I can shake stuff off trees and it gives me these colorful fruits. Heading left, some punk kid tells me they're having a battle and that I cannot pass. COME ON. So I head right... but this route is full of Weedles and Kakunas... the latter which drains 20 of my tackles per battle but gives ~ 40ish EXP after win. All right, a berry tree. Cool, another Apricorn... and Mr. Pokemon's house. Mr. Pokemon here... gives me an egg. But what could it be? Now Professor Oak comes and... wait what?! OH NO IT'S THE ONE WHO ASKED ME IF I WAS A BOY OR A GIRL!! D: As my player shoots the professor and escapes from the scene of the crim- wait, let me start that again. Where was I? Oh right! Professor Oak... right... that's where I was. He gives me a Pokedex and tells me to complete it... just like how he tortured some other kid three years ago, but this time the Pokedex is IMPROVED. It holds 251 Pokemon, not just 151! Oh awesome! Now I go out of the house after Mr. Pokemon heals my Pokemon and... guess who is calling? It's Professor Elm! Are you proud that I got the job done? Oh what? No? Wait?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT CYNDAQUIL GOT STOLEN?! I WAS GONNA STEAL IT FIRS- erm I mean... THAT'S HORRIBLE! Going down to Cherrygrove City and still meeting Weedles and Pidgeys and the occassional Kakunas, I start healing up my Pokemon and head back to New Bark Town, but.............. some red haired kid stops me on the way... and he has some punk theme playing. Oh... it's the pisser boy from Professor Elm's lab... and he calls me weak? Pffh... wanna battle? Let's go! And now that is done... he says he will be the greatest Pokemon master. In your dreams. Oh by the way, you fail... you dropped your Trainer ID card... and I saw your name. Oh? You noticed! Finally... here, take your card, yes, I saw your name... but it's covered with piss. So ewww... take it back. I'm gonna head back to New Bark Town. "Rule No. 1: the one who committed the crime will always return to the scene of the crime."* ~ Police Officer * note: not in verbatim for my memory is fuzzy Professor Elm's lab... hey it's Officer Krupke. And what?! NO NO NO! You got the wrong guy! That pisser boy with red hair was the one who did this not me! Right Professor Elm? What?! PROFESSOR ELM?! WHY ARE YOU JUST STANDING THERE?! TELL THEM THAT I DIDN'T DO THIS!! ... and in comes Mari-erm... what's her face? Lyra, right. She comes in, slaps me for almost calling her Mario again... and tells the Police Officer that it was the red haired boy and not me. Heh heh, it's my girlfriend to the rescue! Oh what? You didn't hear anything! I was only thinking loudly! But hey! Officer Krupke... I saw his name! Yes I did sir... and his name was... "Enter Rival's name: SILVER" You're lucky I'm so nice pisserboy... or else my friends would have named you something incredibly wrong. And then Officer Krupke leaves... gee Officer Krupke.. Krup you! And Mari-*gets slapped* Mari-*gets slapped* M-*gets slapped*... FINE! LYRA LYRA... leaves too Now Professor Elm, who was just standing there and was about to get me arrested, demands that he sees the egg. WHAT?! After all the trouble you put me through, you lazy bum?! NO WAY! But he takes the egg anyways He then tells me to embark on a quest to catch all the Pokemon because some crazy old guy named Professor Oak told me to... but tell mom first? Yeah I must. Gold: "Mom! You don't understand! There's this pedophile old professor who wanted to know if I was a boy or a girl and some pisser boy who wants me dead and Professor Elm isn't a friend! He's an accomplice of the pedophile and was gonna get me arrested! Please don't let me do this... please don't make me go!!" Mom: "Oh! You're going on an adventure? Do you want me to save money for you?" Gold: "But mom! Why am I going on a journey by myself to catch all 250 (plus one) Pokemon?!" Mom: "Okay, I'll save your money darling. Good luck on your adventure!" Gold: *sigh* bye mom... ... that didn't work so well. I suppose... and oh no it's ermmmmMari-*slap* Lyra! Hi! So you're gonna show me how to catch a Pokemon? I did this like over 9000 times... no need to show me! Ooh, Pokeballs?! GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME... *after tutorial ends* GIMME GIMME GIMME... *receives 15 Balls* GIMME oh. W00t! Thanks M-*slaps and takes 10 balls*. Darn it Okay, gonna go to this route and capture me some Pogeymans! Heh heh heh.. oh what's this? Okay, now to head to Cherrygrove, heal... go up that route... and wow, the left side is that noob trainer who thought he could block my way. I take down his level 4 runt... erm, Rattata and he asks me for my phone number so he can stalk me. He lost to the other noob up there... let's see why. Youngster Joey lost to Youngster Mike because... oh, Mike has a level 2 Pidgey AND a level 4 Rattata. See? And now I go up and find a bunch of Kakunas killing my Tackle PP (and occassional misses gives it free Hardens) really messed me up. Anyhow, some Bug Catchers are here and my Pidgey finally learns Sand Attack. Ooh... and Bug Catcher Wade asks me for my phone number... aw come on! When am I ever gonna find some girls? And here I am in Violet City... and go into that huge tower at the top. They call it Sprout Tower because these old dudes... have level 3 Bellsprouts in their teams. OOH... Pidgey training time! And with Pidgey and Chikorita, I bust through the tower, taking everyone down one by one... and eventually reach their leader--- PISSER BOY?! WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?! Pisserboy: I just beat this guy cuz hes so weak yo! Imma use ma escape rope yo and piss on ya later! *Silver used Escape Rope* Hmm... and he left an Escape Rope at the right side just for me. How nice ^^ And here... is the old sage. Let's see what he has... And now the Elder gives me TM70 (Flash). Oh, it's a TM now. How interesting. Now we must head to the gym and beat the first gym leader. *gulp* I don't think I'm ready And so... WOW! It has an elevator lift! First Bird Keeper fights my Chikorita with a Spearow! Uh oh... but fortunately it spams Growl... although it's annoying Second one had two Pidgeys who kept spamming Sand Attack... but I smarted up and switched to Pidgey with Keen Eye. But even then they kept spamming Sand Attack. Why AI? Why are you so dumb? Now finally... the grand maestro of this gym... So after that Professor Elm calls me and YEAH I KNOW GO TO THE POKECENTER TO PICK UP THAT EGG YOU STOLE FROM ME K. THX. BAI. I go to the Pokemon Center... but his Aide isn't there! WHAT?! So I heal up my Pokemon and go to the Mart and... oh what? He's there? I guess it's different from the original game. So now to head down from Violet, pick up that Apricorn... being stopped by a man who gives me a Miracleseed (oh thank you!) which Leafie will enjoy... and down to Union Cave. What adventures await for Gold next? To be continued...

I will admit the only shiny I have ever found aside from the Red Gyarados in my Gold version was a pink Metapod... but I think it's merely coincidence. We don't have enough support to tell if it is valid or not though.

Secret ID is actually needed, but you need an action replay to figure out what it is. While your trainer ID is visible, the secret ID is a secondary ID that all Pokemon have in case two or more trainers have the same Trainer ID I suppose... anyhow you will need both or else they will not listen to you if you do not have the right badges. But if you do not care about that they will act as if they were traded Pokemon and will gain 1.5x experience points just like a traded Pokemon... and just like a traded Pokemon they will not obey unless you have the right badges.