Speculation: Metagame changes/ New pokemon's roles

[Tbird]

But can those TMs be passed down if it isn't a TM in the game they are breeding in? :S:S

[wraith89]

Swampert's Damp ability is BEGGING for rocks and lead position...

And Tbird... a lot of Pokemon got stuff like Water Pulse as hereditary moves (a former TM which was seldom used competitively, aside from stuff like NP Technician Persian)... that's Gamefreak's way of "compensating" for the loss of certain TMs, I believe, although not EVERYONE is getting Stealth Rocks or anything.

[Sabeta]

Don't really know, but I think that naturally suicide leads will just fade out. I never liked them anyways, sure you get stealth rocks up, but most of the time the score is 5-6, good luck recovering.

[wraith89]

Yeah... problem with suicide leads... "okay, I stopped them from setting up rocks... now what?" Or... "I beat the other guy yay... but no rocks. Now what?"

[Sabeta]

I prefer scouting leads, or anti-leads. They get the job done 90% of the time, and have more longevity.

[Sparks]

I'm not actually sure what my lead qualifies as. I suspect anti-lead but I only started competitive battling 4 days ago.

It's a Gallade that has managed to take down almost every single lead pokemon it has come across in one hit. Exceptions being scizor, fortress and ferrothorn.

Course this is on pokemon online as the one I have in the games while bred the way I want it to be is only level 56 right now. Similarly for the other 2 that I transferred. Bred properly but not the proper levels.

More on topic, I have a reunicleus that I am going to try using as a special tank/attacker and am working on getting a chandelure for special offense.... I just realized I have maybe 2 for physical offense.... hrmm...