pokemonfan Posted June 18, 2009 Author Posted June 18, 2009 Yeah I know..that's why I dont use it in wiki articles
wraith89 Posted June 18, 2009 Posted June 18, 2009 Yeah I know..that's why I dont use it in wiki articles But it shouldn't mean the others can't... remember that. Don't force your opinions on others. That's a BIG mistake.
pokemonfan Posted June 18, 2009 Author Posted June 18, 2009 My mind was on "serebii ization" ok then I'll scratch that.
HottSushiz Posted June 18, 2009 Posted June 18, 2009 Well not sure that there's anything particular in mind that i would do, maybe a Faq about: "Pokesav with Flash Carts" Explaining how to use it with Pokesav, and if you encounter a problem, then it will even explain further on what methods to use to tackle the dilema. Although I'm just bouncing random ideas popping into my head, i guess I'm just here if you need any help, or you can call it "Help When Needed"?
pokemonfan Posted June 18, 2009 Author Posted June 18, 2009 I think it would be best to avoid introducing new projects at the moment but I'll file the idea. I think we've spread ourselves to thin and we wont be able to be very productive. However, I will file any ideas you have and introduce them when we have less projects.
SCV Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 The data is the same, no matter what the source. Whether we get it from Smogon, Marriland, Serebii, rip it from the ROM, or pull a rabbit out of a hat with the data written on an index card in its mouth, the data will always be the same, unless someone makes a mistake. We'd prefer if mistakes made by our members were due to mistakes made by us and not by Serebii. For example, on this page http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/location/446.shtml#platinum and this page http://www.serebii.net/platinum/honeytrees.shtml (The following Pokémon are found on all Honey Trees dotted around Sinnoh. The location does not change the type of Pokémon or the rarity.) Serebii makes people think anyone can get Munchlax in any tree with a 1% encounter rate. This is 100% falsification of information. That he wrote that tells me that he just invents stuff just to have something to say. There is no way someone can test and determine that its a 1% encounter rate at every tree. Firstly because its not and secondly because of the complexity of honey tree pokemon generation. So I don't trust Serebii at all, unless the info was given by me or Sabre (i.e., trainer data/names for platinum that he used for Pokearth). Now, we never know what other information he's invented. So its best not to use Serebii at all. So yes, the correct data is the same no matter where it comes from but people reading data have no idea if that is correct data or not.
FLOOTENKERP Posted June 19, 2009 Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) What? He said that? I was doing that for days on end without a single Munchlax. I'm getting my information on making wiki pages by reliable sources like Filbde, and Pokebeach etc. Edited June 19, 2009 by SCV No need for foul language.
pokemonfan Posted June 20, 2009 Author Posted June 20, 2009 We'd prefer if mistakes made by our members were due to mistakes made by us and not by Serebii.For example, on this page http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/location/446.shtml#platinum and this page http://www.serebii.net/platinum/honeytrees.shtml (The following Pokémon are found on all Honey Trees dotted around Sinnoh. The location does not change the type of Pokémon or the rarity.) Serebii makes people think anyone can get Munchlax in any tree with a 1% encounter rate. This is 100% falsification of information. That he wrote that tells me that he just invents stuff just to have something to say. There is no way someone can test and determine that its a 1% encounter rate at every tree. Firstly because its not and secondly because of the complexity of honey tree pokemon generation. So I don't trust Serebii at all, unless the info was given by me or Sabre (i.e., trainer data/names for platinum that he used for Pokearth). Now, we never know what other information he's invented. So its best not to use Serebii at all. So yes, the correct data is the same no matter where it comes from but people reading data have no idea if that is correct data or not. Thank you! Its not always the best of resource... I guess for the group its ok to use it but it would be great if you double checked somewhere else or better yet did your own in game research.
SCV Posted June 20, 2009 Posted June 20, 2009 Thank you! Its not always the best of resource...I guess for the group its ok to use it but it would be great if you double checked somewhere else or better yet did your own in game research. Double checking doesn't really work, because other people might just copy serebii. So you can find 10+ sites with the same wrong information. And yes, own research is always preferred.
pokemonfan Posted June 20, 2009 Author Posted June 20, 2009 Double checking doesn't really work, because other people might just copy serebii. So you can find 10+ sites with the same wrong information. And yes, own research is always preferred. Never thought of it that way but there are always some honest people out there. Plus there is nothing wrong with doing your own research and blazing a new path in pokemon discoveries.
FLOOTENKERP Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 I was thinking we could make a page on special edition Pokemon systems. Like the Pokemon Mini, or the Pokect GS Pikachu. Not many people know about it, so these pages could be very useful for people who stumble upon it. I'll start up a page later, if anyone wants to help PM me.
pokemonfan Posted June 21, 2009 Author Posted June 21, 2009 Ah! Floot! I was hoping we could hold off on new projects for now and I'll file it for reintroduction later on. (of course I cant stop you) We have so many other in big projects to deal with at the moment couldn't you find one of them to help with?
FLOOTENKERP Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 Well, I could hold it off for now. I guess I'll help with the pages in need of editing currently. I'll post around in the wiki group to find some pages.
pokemonfan Posted June 21, 2009 Author Posted June 21, 2009 Ivysaur needs work..also venusaur got skipped in our wiki pokedex. The projects are listed in the original post (OP) so check there. If you need some help or have questions PM me.
pokemonfan Posted June 21, 2009 Author Posted June 21, 2009 I made lots of updates on in the OP so please check them out. I created some more job specifics and I did some project merging to create on project. If it wasn't such a big project I'd introduce the projects in waiting.
Gin Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 Could you add me to the Pokeball group? I added and edited a whole bunch of stuff.
pokemonfan Posted June 21, 2009 Author Posted June 21, 2009 Yes I will add you to the bag data thing as well since the pokeball page is one of the bag data project extensions. I will Bobtheedibleone, I saw your massive edit and quite frankly I didn't know half that stuff so its really great.
Gin Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 Kinda off topic, but you can call me Bob. It's much shorter.
pokemonfan Posted June 22, 2009 Author Posted June 22, 2009 I can do that...bob...anyway has anyone checked out my update. There are some specific jobs now...I think I'm going to make something new in the wiki group page. Check it out please I haven't gotten any feedback about it and I'm worrying that no one saw it.
randomspot555 Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 Wouldn't serebii ization also be taking exact data from their site? Why would we want to do that..dont you think that's a tad bit of serebii ization? I'm sure this is pages old/already resolved, but there is nothing wrong with using another site as a source. It's a Wiki. It's goal is information. And if someone else has that information, they should be credited if we put it in an article(s). That being said, a LOT of stuff can be done independent of what Joe has already done. For example, we already have our own Dex to refer to. It's the same info as Joe's since his Dex source is also the games. And anime episodes/screen caps are simply doing it ourselves instead of relying on Joe. But Serebii.net has been around a long time and has some great content/features, maybe even exclusive. When it comes to that, it should be credited. Yeah, Serebii has gotten stuff wrong before (the event page seems to chronicly be out of date and/or wrong), along with some accusations of theft. It shouldn't be THE source to go to, nor should any other site. But if a site is the origin of something, they should be credited. Anyway, I hope to work on some anime related articles in the near future. I've got episodes to watch, and then also compare Dub vs Raw. It should be interesting.
Neo Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I agree with you, i have seen some guides on wiki and have found them on other sites. People, if you get info off another site, give them credit.
evandixon Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) I would like to be an editor, although you will have to tell me things to edit, because I am very busy.Edit: Never mind. Edited July 15, 2009 by evandixon
Neo Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 You could edit pages that need to be updated like the Hg/Ss page
froggy25 Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 Hi, I'd like to be an editor to complete some articles, like this one : http://www.projectpokemon.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Pt_Save_File_Structure
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