Izzymon Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 I have checked 2 pokemon that were transferred from HG, a Metagross and a Togekiss both nicknamed, and i keep gettting the following message in the nickname field of the Pokechecks legality analysis: "This Pokémon is missing HGSS hatch trash bytes", i do not understand what this means for my pokemon as both were breed, and trained in HG and nicknamed in their original file, neither name has any non alphabetic characters, is this a bug or is there something wrong with my pokemon?
dcrispell7 Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 not really a false positive issue (well its that too), but more of an issue with the account settings. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1116758 http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=1133383 the first link is to my Landorus that i RNGed in my black version. The second link is to a Korean Landorus that is identical to mine in every way, except the OT is Korean. The ID/SID is the same, the ball choice is the same, the date of capture is the same, the nature, IVs, game version, even the PID is the same (What are the odds of that even?). It seems pretty clear that this guy hacked my Landorus (if you click on the OT on pokecheck it even brings up all of my other B/W legends from that file!) but i have my account set to forbid others from making my pokemon public. As far as i can tell this is the only pokemon of mine that has escaped the block i tried to put on my pokemon for letting others make them public
Darkrai87 Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 I have checked 2 pokemon that were transferred from HG, a Metagross and a Togekiss both nicknamed, and i keep gettting the following message in the nickname field of the Pokechecks legality analysis: "This Pokémon is missing HGSS hatch trash bytes", i do not understand what this means for my pokemon as both were breed, and trained in HG and nicknamed in their original file, neither name has any non alphabetic characters, is this a bug or is there something wrong with my pokemon? Your pokemon are perfectly fine because the HG/SS name rater wipes all trash bytes when nicknaming a pokemon. It's nothing to worry about.
hfc2x Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Hi, I would like to report a false-positive. There's a Tyranitar I bred myself in Pokémon Emerald which has almost perfect IVs. I cloned it in Emerald and then traded the clone to FireRed. From there, I migrated the clone to Platinum and uploaded it to Pokécheck. It says that my Tyranitar has invalid Pal-Park trash bytes and that it's IVs are hacked, when I know they are not (like I said, I bred it myself, after more than 100 Larvitar eggs). [iCON]248[/iCON]Post a link to the Pokemon. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1614323
Hozu Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) Did you upload it by .pkm file extraction via Pokegen? Or Pal Park it via emulator? Or was this done using retail carts the whole way? ► Move 2 Valid (Colosseum/XD exclusive from Larvitar) < Dragon Dance is an egg move in 3rd gen... that shouldn't be like that. Edit: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1639347 Clefairy from a Pokéwalker can get Moonlight at level 8. Oddly enough it's missing from http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Clefairy_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29/Generation_IV_learnset#By_leveling_up but it is listed on the page for Moonlight http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Moonlight_%28move%29 Edited July 14, 2012 by Hozu
dsa Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Clefairy from a Pokéwalker can get Moonlight at level 8. Oddly enough it's missing from http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Clefairy_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29/Generation_IV_learnset#By_leveling_up but it is listed on the page for Moonlight http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Moonlight_%28move%29 where does the lvl. 8 stand there? I only see it at LvL. 43 or 40 in BW! EDIT: whoops....seen it now....well....maybe they didn´t update it either or they thougth the ppl will look up for the moves anyway!
hfc2x Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Did you upload it by .pkm file extraction via Pokegen? Or Pal Park it via emulator? Or was this done using retail carts the whole way?► Move 2 Valid (Colosseum/XD exclusive from Larvitar) < Dragon Dance is an egg move in 3rd gen... that shouldn't be like that. Edit: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1639347 Clefairy from a Pokéwalker can get Moonlight at level 8. Oddly enough it's missing from http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Clefairy_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29/Generation_IV_learnset#By_leveling_up but it is listed on the page for Moonlight http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Moonlight_%28move%29 I only have retail carts.
xfr Posted July 14, 2012 Author Posted July 14, 2012 I only have retail carts. If that's the case, how did you import this Tyranitar by pkm file? Like it or not, this Pokémon is illegal.
hfc2x Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 If that's the case, how did you import this Tyranitar by pkm file? Like it or not, this Pokémon is illegal. There's a tool called ir-gts, you know? If you don't like legitimate false-positive reports, that's fine. I just wanted to let you know that your tool is flawed.
Radio Rebel Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 not really a false positive issue (well its that too), but more of an issue with the account settings.http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1116758 http://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=1133383 the first link is to my Landorus that i RNGed in my black version. The second link is to a Korean Landorus that is identical to mine in every way, except the OT is Korean. The ID/SID is the same, the ball choice is the same, the date of capture is the same, the nature, IVs, game version, even the PID is the same (What are the odds of that even?). It seems pretty clear that this guy hacked my Landorus (if you click on the OT on pokecheck it even brings up all of my other B/W legends from that file!) but i have my account set to forbid others from making my pokemon public. As far as i can tell this is the only pokemon of mine that has escaped the block i tried to put on my pokemon for letting others make them public In order to be considered "yours", the Pokémon has to match ALL of the trainer data from your registered save file (OT/ID/SID/version/language). Since he changed the OT and language, Pokécheck doesn't recognize it as belonging to you, so he can make it public.
Hozu Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) There's a tool called ir-gts, you know? If you don't like legitimate false-positive reports, that's fine. I just wanted to let you know that your tool is flawed. This tool only supports retail devices. Using things like flashcarts or other tools to get a .pkm file may change the data in some way (which if you're claiming your Tyranitar is legit from retail then yes it changed stuff). Pokécheck does not support things altered by external means. If you can use IR-GTS why don't you just upload it via GTS to Pokécheck directly? I know that in the rare case that I do a .pkm upload from 4th gen via extracting with Pokegen I get dropped trash bytes... Actually that issue should be told to Codr. Edit: DW ability mons that aren't available from the Entralink (as in Hidden Hollow only) should not show up as legitmate from the Entree Forest. Such as this Breloom: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1647105 Also I did submit a bug report for Pokegen regarding the dropped OT terminator as it has happened to me (check the Pokegen Bug subforum for that). Edit 2: Codr says the last terminator is a non-issue for him because it's after the first terminator. For the purposes of Pokegen... I kinda agree with him even though it's wrong. So for the most correct results please upload Pokémon via GTS using only retail carts for the entire process. This includes the capture/breeding of the Pokémon. Edited July 15, 2012 by Hozu
ProjectTitan313 Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1662972 Caught this Cresselia while Surfing in the route. No sweet scent, just waited till the Max repel wore off. Has an Unknown Encounter. Its a retail Pearl, no AR used. Also a Method J PID... I used Method 1 for Reporter, seed was 810B042F @ Frame 14, 2/20/2012 @ 11:54:35 and a delay of 1059.
Lapis Mew Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Pokémon itself: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1658450 Analysis: http://www.pokecheck.org/?screenshot=1658450&la You can have a hatched Pokémon only in the standard Poké Ball. This Terrakion (yes, something that you can't bred, but that's not the matter) is in a Dusk Ball, yet Poké Ball is said to be valid. Search function gave nothing about this (or I choose the words poorly) PS. It also says "This Pokémon is not nicknamed but its name doesn't match the species name for its OT's language.". However, the OT is English, its "nickname" is Terrakion, which is species name. An error? Edited July 17, 2012 by Lapis Mew Another thing.
Hozu Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 So you purposely hacked something and uploaded it, and saying that there are issues?... ok there.
dcrispell7 Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) In order to be considered "yours", the Pokémon has to match ALL of the trainer data from your registered save file (OT/ID/SID/version/language). Since he changed the OT and language, Pokécheck doesn't recognize it as belonging to you, so he can make it public. I know, thats why i posted it here. It clearly is mine, and as such it shouldn't be public, but it wasn't recognized as mine. Also, its hacked too ... Pokémon itself: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1658450Analysis: http://www.pokecheck.org/?screenshot=1658450&la You can have a hatched Pokémon only in the standard Poké Ball. This Terrakion (yes, something that you can't bred, but that's not the matter) is in a Dusk Ball, yet Poké Ball is said to be valid. Search function gave nothing about this (or I choose the words poorly) PS. It also says "This Pokémon is not nicknamed but its name doesn't match the species name for its OT's language.". However, the OT is English, its "nickname" is Terrakion, which is species name. An error? Im confused, are you complaining that your hack, doesn't show up as ... hacked? Well, the pokemon doesnt say it came from an egg, so the ball is fine. But still, why are you complaining that your hack doesn't show up as hacked in that one part? As for the nickname, well that part is functioning fine, but explaining that to a hacker (even one who wants his hacks to show up as hacked) is just not a good idea ... Edited July 18, 2012 by dcrispell7
Hozu Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1478659 Egg events such as YotD shouldn't have the orange warning saying "This event has a nickname (ID abuse or hacked)." because the OT is always the recipient. Thus it can be nicknamed very easily.
PaladinAzumarill Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1669431 - Pokemon comes from Winner's Path on PokeWalker. Only way for Horsea to know Muddy Water legitimately. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1669438 - Also from the Winner's Path. Will know Imprison this way. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1669443 - Group B Yellow Forest Pikachu. Volt Tackle & Fake Out can be legitimately learned in this way. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1669444 - Other Group B Yellow Forest Pikachu. Flail can be legitimately learn in this way also... http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1669446 - Group A Yellow Forest Pikachu. Surf can be learned this way to... http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1669447 - Other Group A Yellow Forest Pikachu. Can learn Fly this way... Sabresite's legal.exe really doesn't like PokeWalker Pokemon does it? Edit: More errors. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1669514 - I found this Shiny Dunsparce inside a Smashable Rock. A ROCK of all things. What are the odds... Edit: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1669564 - This is Brock's Rhyhorn from HG/SS. It is suppose to know Thunder Fang. Edited July 18, 2012 by PaladinAzumarill I'm having a field day with this...
Bond697 Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1669564 - This is Brock's Rhyhorn from HG/SS. It is suppose to know Thunder Fang. "hacked/event only"
randomspot555 Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 What part of hacked/event only is confusing to you? For all intents and purposes, you might as well classify PokeWalker Pokemon as event mons since they differentiate from the norms. Again, legality analyses expect the user to not be an idiot and have the ability to look up move legalities such as event exclusiveness and move tutors and whatnot.
OmegaDonut Posted July 19, 2012 Posted July 19, 2012 The legality analysis on this Azumarill overlooks the fact that Aqua Jet + Belly Drum is an unobtainable egg move combination, but not on this other Azumarill.
Astro86 Posted July 19, 2012 Posted July 19, 2012 I took a Pokémon with the GTS, it gave me a ribbon, I loaded the Pokémon just got this and the result Pokémon has an event ribbon but Does not match any event. I insert both Pokémon to verify original: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1685481 With ribbon: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1685630
RawrLuiz Posted July 19, 2012 Posted July 19, 2012 Dreamworld Banette: http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=1686232 Giving me 'Invalid or unreleased Dream World ability', and 'Unknown Dream World Pokémon.' This specific Banette was released during October of 2011 as a Promotion. It is a DreamWorld Event Pokemon. Although it should be noted, the OT and Nickname Trashbytes are not valid, I believe this is not the cause for the FALSE negative in which it is an unknown, LEGAL Pokemon. Or am I wrong? .__.
xfr Posted July 19, 2012 Author Posted July 19, 2012 Or am I wrong? .__. You are, this is hacked. I took a Pokémon with the GTS, it gave me a ribbon, I loaded the Pokémon just got this and the result This is a feature, not a bug. The legality analysis on this Azumarill overlooks the fact that Aqua Jet + Belly Drum is an unobtainable egg move combination, but not on this other Azumarill. Now that is something.
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