Beta: the pokécheck legality checker for generation 5

[xfr]

I hope I got it right this time.

[Hozu]

For some reason the /ignore function hasn't been working for the last few days. So annoying to have to deal with idiots when you can't block them.

[Hozu]

Sorry for the double post but it's very annoying when a single user can completely shut down the shoutbox because /ignore doesn't work.

Edit: I can add a user to the ignore list but only if there are no other users on it. So I can only block one user at a time.

Edit 2: Please consider a way to ban users by IP for any amount of time. Even permanent if deemed necessary. There is one person in particular that keeps making accounts to spam the shoutbox.

Edited November 1, 2011 by Hozu

[uzuking]

Hey, um... I got a false positive on a Squirtle with Water Spout and Aqua Ring as egg moves. it says it can't be done, but it can: beed female wailmer/wailord with male seel/dewgong with aqua ring, once you have a male wailord/wailmer with it, level it up so it can learn water spout, and breed the male wailmer/wailord with a female squirtle/wartortle/blastoise.

[xfr]

Sorry for the double post but it's very annoying when a single user can completely shut down the shoutbox because /ignore doesn't work.

Edit: I can add a user to the ignore list but only if there are no other users on it. So I can only block one user at a time.

This should work properly now.

Hey, um... I got a false positive on a Squirtle with Water Spout and Aqua Ring as egg moves. it says it can't be done, but it can: beed female wailmer/wailord with male seel/dewgong with aqua ring, once you have a male wailord/wailmer with it, level it up so it can learn water spout, and breed the male wailmer/wailord with a female squirtle/wartortle/blastoise.

Link to your squirtle on Pokécheck please.

[uzuking]

Link to your squirtle on Pokécheck please.

Can you see it?

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=528249

[xfr]

Can you see it? http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=528249

Despite checking manually I don't see any Pokémon in the Monster or Water 1 egg group that can learn Aqua Ring and Water Spout simultanously. Wailmer is in Ground (Field) and Water 2 and can breed neither with Squirtle nor Seel.

[uzuking]

I see... my friend tricked me \"

ah, that's okay. thanks anyway.

[Agonist]

I've noticed a problem relating to first stage pokes, and their legality displays

For example;

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=537645

Ralts doesn't get Psycho Cut, yet it says it can be inherited. (it can't) I also noticed it with a (again hacked) Growlithe that knew ExtremeSpeed, the legality checker said it was inherited, but it can't actually.

[piuchester]

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=541727

It shows as "evolved after transfering". I got this pokemon in a trade in gen4, thus knowing it didn't evolve. It happened due to being hacked (it shows as "not nicknamed", but it obviously was

[xfr]

Thanks, there indeed was an error here.

[The Lone Centurion]

Hey, I posted here a while ago about a shiny Celebi that was showing up as hacked and I was told that it was supposed to have a type 1 PID. However, the legality analysis is now saying that this same Celebi DOES have a type 1 PID, and it is still marked as hacked with no explanation given. I'm not sure whether the PID type was incorrect before or now, but regardless, two other shiny Ageto Celebi with a type 1 PID are also marked as hacked. As before, I am unsure whether this is an error or whether there is another factor that makes them hacked:

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=352703

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=460767

Can someone please confirm whether or not each of these Pokémon is hacked, and if so, why? I'm trying to complete a shiny Pokédex and Celebi is the only legendary that can be shiny that I've been unable to locate a legit shiny version of, and it would be nice if one of these was in fact legit. There's a lot of conflicting information and ambiguity here and I'm just trying to get the facts. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. :smile:

[xfr]

See http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?17978-PokeGC-A-Gamecube-Pokemon-Checking-Tool&p=136177&viewfull=1#post136177

Celebi cannot be legitimately shiny except in generation 2.

[The Lone Centurion]

See http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?17978-PokeGC-A-Gamecube-Pokemon-Checking-Tool&p=136177&viewfull=1#post136177

Celebi cannot be legitimately shiny except in generation 2.

I read through the thread and, unless I'm misunderstanding, you said only that the Celebi written to the Colosseum save file (common GC PID) can't be shiny, but all of the shiny ones on Pokécheck are the ones transferred to GBA (type 1 PID), correct? Unless I missed something in the thread, you never actually confirmed that the GBA ones can't be shiny. I mean, if you tell me they can't, I'll believe you; it's just that a lot of people claim to have gotten a shiny Celebi from the bonus disk and I've never heard anyone outright say that Celebi can't be shiny until now. I'd be very suprised to learn that this is indeed the case. Sorry for being so stubborn about this, and thanks for the help. :smile:

[Dreamer]

Hey pokecheck just a question.Have you taken into account that 4gen events(i don't know about 5gen) are nicknamable?I have uploaded NN'd events and they all have invalid trash bytes.

Keep up the good work:)

[xfr]

Nicknamed events can be controversial legality wise but I have replaced the error with a warning.

[Hozu]

The Deoxys I just caught in Emerald and tutored Counter has Counter show up as hacked.

Edit: It might have something to do with the formes. Mimic shows up as tutor so I believe that it's reading the Deoxys-N tutor list from 3rd gen, which does not include certain tutors from FR/LG/E like Counter. Deoxys-N can't learn those tutor moves because it can't be in that forme in FR/LG/E, it would be in Attack/Defense/Speed forme instead. Simply put, the move tutor list needs to include all tutor moves across all formes.

[Hozu]

DW Chinchou gets Amnesia as a DW only move, however it comes up as hacked. http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=582718

Edit: Both issues fixed. Thank you.

Edited November 28, 2011 by Hozu

[FrostDragon492]

http://www.pokecheck.org/?p=detail&uid=379314 On this Arceus's legality checker, on the "Level" line, it says "Current level is higher than met level.". It's the other way around, actually- The Arceus was caught at level 127, and it's level 100 now. Just some weird glitch I thought I'd point out.

[marcos9191]

Today and provided a Haxorus Ends:

Haxorus \ FFFF \ FFFF \ 0000 \ FFFF

Exits that do not have trash bytes of its pre-evolution (fraxorus) when it should leave "fFound trash bytes from original name "Fraxorus". (Fraxorus\FFFF\0000\FFFF)."

If you can be correct.

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for example, Raichu if that ends well, has a letter unless its pre-evolution.

Raichu \ FFFF \ FFFF \ 0000 \ 0000 \ FFFF

[Gale]

Good

Have fun maintaining list of data just to allow utter idiots to get Pokemon working online.

Thanks for sharing.

[RedFlagg]

Hey, I just checked my Jirachi and it said "Unknown GBA PID". I asked around and people told me it was legit.

Heres a screenshot.

[Agonist]

for some reason the it says unknown location on my Tranquil, despite it being RNG abused, and caught on route 6.

also, can you change the box views to display the correct forms of the pokemon?

Edited December 6, 2011 by Agonist

[xfr]

Hey, I just checked my Jirachi and it said "Unknown GBA PID". I asked around and people told me it was legit.

Tanabata Jirachi must have a valid restricted GBA event PID. I'm sorry but yours was edited somehow.

for some reason the it says unknown location on my Tranquil, despite it being RNG abused, and caught on route 6.

also, can you change the box views to display the correct forms of the pokemon?

That's because Tranquill doesn't appear in August on route 6 unless you use the season rollover glitch.

Today and provided a Haxorus Ends: Haxorus \ FFFF \ FFFF \ 0000 \ FFFF

Exits that do not have trash bytes of its pre-evolution (fraxorus) when it should leave "fFound trash bytes from original name "Fraxorus". (Fraxorus\FFFF\0000\FFFF)."

The pre-evolution of Haxorus is Fraxure, not Fraxorus.

[Agonist]

That's because Tranquill doesn't appear in August on route 6 unless you use the season rollover glitch.

It appears every month except winter according to Bulbapedia. At any rate, thanks for fixing it!