Kaarosu Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) Yeah the fight is just my speculation but I figured that'd make sense as to 'why' Ho-oh would go out of its way to revive those pokemon. And by your logic if a human did start it would spark a battle between the two. Why would Ho-oh even be there? isn't his perch the Tin tower lol As for the events that they represent are the following:The lightning that struck the tower, the fire that burned in the tower, and the rain that put it out. Edit: anyways I'm guessing that Ho-oh just gave them their current shape based on pokemon he already knew. If the pokemon world has legends about how these pokemon appear I doubt the ones revived from the tower are the only ones of 'their' species. Edited June 2, 2009 by Kaarosu Random thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InuYouki Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 all very good points. I like that there are so many ways that things could have come about. I hope they never reveal what pokemon they were. One, it doesn't matter now, and two, the mystery of it all just makes it that much sweeter. I favor both the normal type idea and yours the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOOTENKERP Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The fact that they died in the fire is what supposed to make them special. The Phoenix rising from the ashes deal. That is what Ho-Oh is after all. He mourned the lose of the three pokemon so he revived them and gifted them with the powers they have now.Something doesn't have to be special to start with to be special later. There are tons of folk tails where something completely normal becomes something of great importance later on. Even more so in Japanese and Chinese culture. They have so many interesting Fairy Tails. Good point. I just don't know any details leading to what these Pokémon might have been before the tower was burned to the ground. Could they have been Raikou, Entei and Suicune all along? Why did they get reincarnated to be all powerful? Why not just make them themselves again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Eden Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I just had a thought what if they were reincarnated to control the 3 elements that were involved in the disaster fire,water and thunder to ensure a horrible disaster such as it never happened again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOOTENKERP Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I never thought of that... I guess that's why they were made the way they were, but the question still remains, what were they before their reincarnation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okami Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 The animals truly lived in the VG world of pokemon, I would want a cat for my villa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girantina81 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 But Raikou isn't that fast itself, but it does seem understanding, and Suicune doesn't seem all that intelligent, Arcanine suites Entei very well, they are both lion like, with they're manes, and such. Hey, Suicune is pretty intelligent!!! Remember 4Ever??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesman2232 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 hmm was there ever a pokemon episode about the brass tower and stuff? Normally the protagonist trio would come to a city then find something unusual then they maybe ask around to find out what happened/how it happened, then maybe someone (like Officer Jenny or some old person) tells them about the legend of the 3 dogs and stuff? If you get what I'm trying to say I'm getting this out of logic since a lot of stuff is revealed in pokemon through somebody else's wisdom. Discuss my opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOOTENKERP Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I don't think there was an episode like that. Maybe all of this will be found out in a future episode. But I still think they were Flareon, Jolteon and Vaporeon. Seems Like a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaarosu Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Google to the rescue! http://www.pokezam.com/anime/episodes/master/229.php What would we do without google... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOOTENKERP Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 So they were born from the flames? They were never anything before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roflskippy Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 did anyone ever consider that suicune, entei, and raikou could have possibly been humans that were killed in the fire and Ho-oh revived them in the form of beasts? just a thought but that is something that i considered when i first heard this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaarosu Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 (edited) According to the anime Ho-oh is pissed at the humans because "Humans tried to steal Ho-oh's power along with all other pokemon which led to the fire in the Tin tower. Three pokemon were caught in the flames unable to escape in time. Watching in sadness and disgrace Ho-oh drew upon the powers of nature and its own ancient power and it created new lives for them. The reincarnation of the northern winds Suicune, the reincarnation of a volcano Entei and the reincarnation of thunder Raikou. He sent these three pokemon to observe humans and wait for the day when pokemon and humans's hearts beat as one. Only then will Ho-oh come back." -Eusine Oh and the only things that survived that fire were the bells that team rocket stole which are supposed to only ring when Ho-oh returns.:kikkoman: Edit: When watching the episode the part where they're being reborn as the three legendary beasts(dogs/cat don't care) they seem to be small pokemon. (http://liquiddeath.com/Legend.mp4) Edited June 11, 2009 by Kaarosu Random Observation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOOTENKERP Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Hm, maybe it was just some Ratatta and other small Pokémon. I guess the anime will never tell us, but maybe the upcoming game will. Seems like a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roflskippy Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 oh i see well then there goes my thought on humans becoming the legendary beasts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOOTENKERP Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Well, it was a good guess. In the movie with Entei, Entei could talk and was fathering a little girl after the death of her real father (I don't remember the movie very well) but he talked and acted mostly like a human, so it could cause confusion. Even I thought Entei was her father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesman2232 Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 According to the anime Ho-oh is pissed at the humans because "Humans tried to steal Ho-oh's power along with all other pokemon which led to the fire in the Tin tower. Three pokemon were caught in the flames unable to escape in time. Watching in sadness and disgrace Ho-oh drew upon the powers of nature and its own ancient power and it created new lives for them. The reincarnation of the northern winds Suicune, the reincarnation of a volcano Entei and the reincarnation of thunder Raikou. He sent these three pokemon to observe humans and wait for the day when pokemon and humans's hearts beat as one. Only then will Ho-oh come back." -Eusine Oh and the only things that survived that fire were the bells that team rocket stole which are supposed to only ring when Ho-oh returns.:kikkoman: Edit: When watching the episode the part where they're being reborn as the three legendary beasts(dogs/cat don't care) they seem to be small pokemon. (http://liquiddeath.com/Legend.mp4) Hmm so my theory was just a little bit off. It doesn't really show us what they was before the fire but at least I was right about the episode Bulbapedia says that it was 3 pokemon but since its like Wikipedia anyone can edit it though it does provide other information like how Rattata are wild pokemon on both 1F and B1 of the tower at all times. So it is more possible that it was 3 Rattatas that was killed in the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deities Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 My theory is that they where three humans who went to the tower ages ago to do research. When something or someone burns the tower (maybe this person knew what they where searching for and didn't want them to know it) causing these three humans to die, Ho-Oh who watches this tower burn and sees these three humans die when it wasn't their 'time'. So he revives them as three dogs to watch on people. They where all given special powers (Suicune turns up when there is something happening to water etc.) And as Entei was that girls dog he went back and looked after her. Or something like that. But with all your peoples posts et cetera it seems my theory is just me being a complete idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOOTENKERP Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 We've already been over that Ho-oh hates humans. Why would he reincarnate humans if he hates them? It is most likely 3 Ratatta since the tower has tons of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deities Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 We've already been over that Ho-oh hates humans. Why would he reincarnate humans if he hates them? It is most likely 3 Ratatta since the tower has tons of them. He hates humans but everything feels emotion so maybe Ho-Oh felt a bit sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOOTENKERP Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 The most likely thing that happened in the tower was that three Ratatta died in there. Ho-oh will only respect humans once both Pokémon and humans hearts beat as one, which hasn't happened yet. So it had to be Pokémon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roflskippy Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 man this thread could last a lifetime and the only person who knows the truth is the creator of pokemon himself T.T looks like we will never know the full story T.T UNLESS the anime (lol) tells the rest of the story when they return to johto (yes they will have ash and friends return to johto for some reason or another because pokemon anime is what brings in their monies and the games as well) and then they might explain in more detail about the legend. doubt it tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOOTENKERP Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 This is just speculation on what the answer might be. There is a lot of proof that it could be Ratatta. Maybe it is humans or whatever, but until we get an answer, we'll keep on guessing. I think it is a Ratatta. I'll stick with that answer until I receive further proof that it could be something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relyte Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 My guess is that it was three Bidoofs, too stupid to leave the tower while it was burning. Ho-Oh pitied them (who wouldn't? They're Bidoofs, for crying out loud) so much that he made them actually useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wraith89 Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 .................................. Bidoofs. Nope, they were gerbils. Beavers don't exist in Johto Notice the many Rattatas in that tower. I wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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