wraith89

Nah, Nidoqueen is more defensive, Nidoking is much better for in-game... stronger, faster, etc, everything YOU would love... but I just like Nidoqueen because I had one since Blue version, and continued getting one in every following games I could get her in.

Since Tbird is gone for a week, he baton passed his role to me All right... metagame changes. Here goes nothing... let's see if I'm doing this right. 1) First off, we have some OLD effects/Pokemon changing. A crying shame that Vaporeon's sprite is blocked off... but I like her new sprite. The ability Sturdy now prevents any form of one hit knock out from maximum Hit Points, leaving just 1 Hit Point Vaporeon gets the Hydration ability if you get it from the Dream World Heh, so Sturdy isn't nearly as broken anymore. Mind Reader + Sheer Cold + Ice Shard Articuno anyone? I guess it didn't make sense for something like Donphan to not even feel Sheer Cold... I don't know. And Vaporeon with Hydration? Okay, so she isn't able to heal from water moves with that ability, but if rain is in effect, it means Vaporeon is not as vulnerable to Toxic Spikes anymore. Pretty neat option if you ask me. Hydration will probably take Ability 2's slot... and it probably means the other Eeveelutions will get a second ability as well if caught from Dream World (whatever that is). Now I'm wondering what the other six will get... 2) Some NEW Pokemon stuff We have an angry fish! His name is Basurao (バスラオ), and he is shown to be using Aqua Jet, Headbutt and Roar. Yeah, I think he'll evolve... This is Mamanbou (ママンボウ), who looks awfully similar to Luvdisc. Although... Luvdisc had a terrible design and was not impressive in any way and its only redeeming factor is Heart Scale hunting. This one though, looks cute and actually looks like a fish. She is the Nursing Pokémon and is 1.2m tall and weighs 31.6kg. Her two abilities are Hydration and Healing Heart (いやしのこころ), which removes Status Effects on your partner Pokémon in battle. This new ability seems incredibly useful for double/triple battles. Mamanbou somewhat functions as an auto-cleric, but Healing Heart is probably like Hydration, works once per turn. I just noticed... Luvdisc was supposed to look like a heart... and the ability is "Healing Heart"... hmmm... it could be! Hello Luvdisc, I will so evolve you. But darn... you're not Water/Fire. Burning heart! Oh well. Shikijika (シキジカ) is a deer Pokemon and she is a Normal/Grass Pokemon. We have a Normal/Water, now a Normal/Grass... hoping for a Normal/Fire? Meh, we'll find out soon enough. This thing has a neat gimmick, as it has different color schemes like Shellos/Gastrodon, but it is not affected by which region it was caught in. Rather, it is dependent on season: Spring Form is Pink, Summer Form is Green, Autumn Form is Orange and Winter Form is Brown. It is classified as a Season Pokemon (not deer?), and is 0.6m and weighs 19.5kg. It has the abilities Chlorophyll and a new one called Herbivore (そうしょく ) which raises Attack when hit with a Grass-type move, very similar to Flash Fire. Hopefully she can find some use in the competitive battling scene. I can see her paired with bulky grounds and waters to take Grass attacks aimed at things like, I don't know, Swampert. Hello totem pole mouse! Here is the Raticate/Furret/Linoone/Bibarel of this generation, Miruhoggu (ミルホッグ), the evolution of Minezumi. He is the Precaution Pokémon (huh?) and is 1.1m tall and weighs 27.0kg. He looks rather angry... but his abilities are Illuminate and Keen Eye. It is rather fitting, but unfortunately neither of them are all THAT useful. If Illuminate changes effects into something like an Intimidate-esque lower your accuracy during the initial turn it is sent out, he may prove all right. But the rodents of each generation were not too useful (with the exception of Linoone and Bibarel... somewhat), maybe he won't be all that different. Swana (スワンナ ) is the elegant Cygnus of this generation. He is classified as the Swan Pokemon (not Fluffy Wings or-*gets shot*) and is 1.3m tall and weighs 24.2kg. He is Water/Flying (great another one) and has the abilities Keen Eye or Pigeon Heart (a swan is a pigeon? Maybe the localized version will change it to Avian Heart or something...). He looks like the Pelipper of this generation... only he looks a lot more elegant. There is a new move called WindStorm (ぼうふう) where the Pokémon's Accuracy changes with the weather. Ugh... I wish it was power, not accuracy that changes. Hopefully he will see some use in battles or get some useful supporting moves... or else competitively he's another Pelipper, who wasn't all too impressive. Mantine is at least a great special wall (akin to Skarmory in terms of stats) and Gyarados... well who wants to mess with him? Kurumiru (クルミル ) is 0.3m tall and weighs 2.5kg and is classified as the "Sewing Pokemon" (not Silkworm or anything?). He is Bug/Grass type and has the abilities Swarm or Chlorophyll. He also has a new attack called Bug Resistance (むしのていこう). Not much is known about it... except it attacks two opponents at once in double battles. Yeah, Kurumiru looks like it's a baby form... it's definitely evolving. But he seems different from his fellow Bug/Grass fellows Parasect and Wormadam. Well, he seems similar to Wormadam more than anything, but not sure what kind of a role he will play... probably another generic bug Lastly, we have Moguryu (モグリュー), the Mole Pokemon (finally, a real classification!). He is 0.3m tall and weighs 8.5kg, and you guessed it, is a Ground type Pokemon. He has two abilities, Sand Throw (すなかき) and Sand Power (すなのちから ) which boosts the power of moves in a sandstorm. It looks like another weather boosting ability, much like Solar Power I guess? Expect him to play in sand teams, but if the happy mole turns out outclassed or whatnot, we may have lower tier sand abusers! Hello sand teams! Yeah, I'm a bit late with the "updates", but I have finally posted. Any questions? Comments? Feel free to post. ~ Wraith Out Source(s): 1. Serebii.net

I don't know... I actually thought that a "third" would be Ice/Dragon since the other two are Fire and Electric... but we'll see. lol Mewtwo, I'm one of those people who think with mostly extremes... I see things in Black and White... but a third version, if it came out, could be the balance between the two? Anyways, an Ice/Dragon would be cool... and I was kind of hoping Reshiram would be... but I guess not. Meh, we don't really know the dragons' roles yet, but Team Plasma/Neon? Looks like someone's arguing about power source or something? I don't know if it is a theme about unity or anything... Ewww, if it was a game about economics, I'm ready to drop out of my economics class 9000 times over...

The all female was just coincidence I have male Pokemon too... but notice that stuff like Nidoqueen is 100% female and Ninetales is like 75% female... I don't know what happened to Meganium, who is 87.5% male

This is roughly the Pokemon I was carrying... they were around level 63-71... [hgsssprite]018[/hgsssprite] Pertelote the Pidgeot (F) - Air Slash - Fly - Featherdance - Roost [hgsssprite]214[/hgsssprite] Atalanta the Heracross (F) - Megahorn - Close Combat - Night Slash - Aerial Ace [hgsssprite]154[/hgsssprite] Leafie the Meganium (F) - Aromatherapy - Magical Leaf - Light Screen - Synthesis [hgsssprite]038[/hgsssprite] Vixie the Ninetales (F) - Confuse Ray - Extrasensory - Flamethrower - Nasty Plot [hgsssprite]031[/hgsssprite] Regina the Nidoqueen (F) - Earth Power - Surf - Thunderbolt - Flamethrower [hgsssprite]131[/hgsssprite] Nessie the Lapras (F) - Surf - Ice Beam - Ice Shard - Perish Song

Do we need more people like this? If Basilmarket wasn't enough... ugh. Time to lock this thread. Minor grammatical errors should not be the focus of one's post...

Are you sure the bolded part is what you wanted to say? If it is I'm glad you agree with me. And I'm not twisting your words, I'm merely saying it isn't a waste to make a team at all, which you seem to abhor. Bottom line: Anything in game works... but you seem so against having a team, and as others seem to say, they like having a team. Your opinion, my opinion, we're different. Leave it at that.

Scyther has a pretty low catch rate actually, but that is irrelevant. And if you EXP share it, you might as well just train up Scyther because it is quite a potent Pokemon to begin with. I don't watch TV... and no, I think it's fun compiling a team that can cover each others' weaknesses. Training a bit isn't that bad either... I grinded a couple of levels in a matter of minutes if I needed to (it isn't those MMOs where leveling is difficult). Anything can get boring if done repetitively, so either way, that is irrelevant. And who enjoys making these teams? Ask everyone else then and those who made their team. Of course people take breaks, that's natural... for anything. And you shifted topics... when was it an argument about actual training vs making a team? It was the argument of having one overpowered pokemon vs having a whole team. Your posts indicate that it is a sin to make a whole team while playing through the game, when it isn't.

No I did not contradict myself. Early EV training doesn't mean specific EV training to get a specific build... you fight wild Pokemon and you gain EVs. Simple as that... and Pidgey/Weedle/Rattata/Zubat gives Speed, Sentrets give Attack, etc... and it will eventually build up. That is what I was referring to, rather than getting a clean Gyarados. You did not tell me you had other "utility" Pokemon for catching purposes. And my point was using your overpowered single starter will make it tough to catch certain Pokemon you may want later. If that is what you use, then whatever, use it if it is your preference. I'm not saying it's wrong, I have friends who do that too, but it isn't up to you to tell others that "having a team of 6 is ineffective" or whatever, when people actually enjoy building a team of multiple Pokemon. It's THEIR Pokemon journey and as you can see, we all beat the game with a team of 6. And btw, Gyarados outclasses Feraligatr... well, not completely, but damage wise and whatnot... and take into factor that not everybody picks a Feraligatr.

Fire/Psychic? Ewww. Tyranitar bait for the lose. Okay, if it has some Fighting move, then Tyranitar would have to think twice before switching in. I can see that thing getting Grass Knot like the other 100/100/100/100/100/100 pixies, which won't KO Tyranitar outright, but still put some major damage. Yeah, my interest for this thing... somewhat went down the drain. But what makes it so special that it has to be #000? Really now... don't steal Missingno's Thunder >_> But on the bright side... look! All our wishes for more Fire types... came true. Reshiram is Fire/Dragon (why? U_U) and this guy too. Who's next? Luvdisc's speculated evolved form? Fire/Water... heh heh.

Again, your opinion. Geodude is an amazing Pokemon, early game especially. It definitely helps using one vs Falkner and Bugsy. Necessary? No. Useful? Yes, very. Also does well on Whitney but its usefulness may stop after a while unless you feel like keeping it, which isn't at all bad if you feel attached to it. Magikarp --> Gyarados. What's wrong with early Gyarados? Yes you can get a Red Gyarados right off the bat later, but some people actually want to, well, have it earlier? Thanks to the earlier EV training, it will be stronger than the red Gyarados as well. Tedious training? Sure. Fun of wrecking early game? Why not? Same deal with Abra. And what's better than that satisfaction when you see your Metapod turn into Butterfree and can finally beat stuff? Same deal with Magikarp to Gyarados... a better feel of accomplishment to some. And define your "better options". Level 51 Golbat? Level 44 Ursaring? And okay, try catching that level 20 Larvitar with your level 77 whatever... chucking balls may catch it but granted it's harder and definitely not as fun... whatever, I should not even argue about this. It's just as pointless as pointless gets. You definitely don't understand how others play this game... so whatever style they play, just let them be. No one should be told how to play Pokemon. Not everyone goes mono "one Pokemon run". I'm also curious to what Pokemon you have used and what moveset it has.

We already thought about something like this a long time ago... but it was declined because people said it was too easy to abuse and whatnot (at least that's what someone said, I don't know who). But PP is changing so we'll see what the rest of the staff thinks about it. It's been a while since vBulletin 4.0 was released... someone definitely made a hack for that.