Klaatu

Finally, the inceses have an excuse for existing

To prevent you from breeding newer pre-evos till you get far enough.....

This really depens on how much they are willing to change the games. Considering Togepi it should be the same.

I thought about the Pokemon outside the Daycare too.... But overworld sprites for all of them? Sounds too cool.

They'll probably rather use a cheap trick, like expanding the Fence east into the forest till it's off your screen and prevent you from going in it LOL

EDIT:

Actually now that I thought about it once more... It won't happen. Just one word as example for why not: Wailord

Give Entei <3

Lion D: (which=/=dog btw)

Exactly =O

It's the only (all stages) Pokemon to not have the _____ type as primary type.

It's special attack and special defense base stats are not equal.

What's the first stage of it?

HAahahah

I would have said Steelix, but couldn't Onix learn Dragonbreath too?

Be more specific. A lot of stuff are Ground/Rock and are second staged :-/

I meant, I was trying to trick someone into saying Steelix, so I could act like being smart and stating Onix can learn it too .

And I'm always trying to be very specific but in some sneaky way =P

Not A, but THE Ground/Rock Pokemon... think about it

To make it clear, by 2nd stage I mean like Ivysaur, not like the crap TCG logic

Seeing how they didn't just make 12! new legendaries for DP (even excluding Manaphy and Phione) and then also put 2 whole trios in Platinum, taking it up to 18!!!!!!!1, it doesn't seem to me like they will be satisfied with HGSS having AS MANY AS HUGE 5, plus a Celebi activated by wifi event.

So I'm quite sure there won't just be Mewtwo in it, but also some Hoenn ones, IMO:

-After a post-E4&everything-whatever-ingame-event, one of the Lati@s depending on x will be roaming in y region.

And, as DPPt have min. 3 wifi event locations in it, there will probably also be:

-Download the Star/Wish___ Item and place it on THE WHITE ROCK IN KANTO for Jirachi to appear (it would be the only 1 to never have had an ingame location if not)

Then there could be wifi Deoxys, so finally everyone could get use of those meteorites and play with it's formes.

That would be 6+3 which is half of Pt's xDDD

I hope there will be more old characters (Jasmine in Sinnoh)... Steven Stone plx =O

Maybe he will donate us a Yacht here? DXXXXXX

I am not able to choose between 3 Pokemon q.q

I like all of them Q_Q

K....

Lets pretend I will not trade all 3 to one save file before really playing.

Back in the old times I used to choose Cyndaquil <3. Reasons being quite obvious, it was quite more of a sweeper than the other 2. And fast hard hitting Pokemon are the fastest at going through the game. It's movepool wasn't colorful, but neither where those of the other 2 starters.

I can exclude Totodile (but it's so awesome q.q), because there are always at least 3 water HMs and I wouldn't like screwing my starters moveset with HMs and I'm alergic to having 2 Pokemon of the same type with me .

So it would be Chikorita <3

Yeah. Unless I give Morty odd stuff like Shedinja and Froslass, his team remains quite a copy of Fantinas....

Surge looks like a Volkner clone :-/

The 2 they have in common, are also already in his GSC team (as is Electrode, but I took Magneton out, as Jasmine got that)

If any, Jasmine is a Byron clone with only 1 different Q,Q

I considered Metagross, but dunno....

I especially like my Lance team and how the colours go from first to last <3

Also I was trying to have them have max 2 non Kanto/Johto Pokemon in (and succeeded at most of em).

So most of them have 2K/1J/1H/1S<--most times an evo

Yeah I thought about Bugsy's team being to crap. The Butterfree and Beedrill are in because of his Metapod and Kakuna.

Scizor is obvious for various reasons.

I wanted to give Heracross to Chuck so much, so he would get at least 1 of the 2 Johto Fighting type Pokemon (the other being Hitmontop @ Bruno)

Shuckle seems fine in there.

Then I put Yanmega in also, but took it out before posting, because I for some reason didn't want to make his team half same like Aarons(?) (Sinnoh E4 bug) and replaced it with... the other Johto Bug left. Altough Ledian is weak, I saw his counterpart used by Koga... LOL

Now I'm thinking... maybe a Shedinja?

EDIT: I gave him Yanmega instead of Ledian now. Those Kanto bugs still bother me, but I'll leave them cause of his original team.

It's Altaria yeah.

Wanted to see if anyone will say Steelix =P

Alright that should be Kingdra yeah (altough all stages can also have sniper)

Second stage of the Ground/Rock Pokemon.

There's still hope HGSS will include improvement of the gen I and II movepools =o

Poor flame Pokemon )=

It's also the only fully evolved fire Pokemon that is not able to learn Solarbeam <,<

Ok....then something different:

A Pokemon that changes it primary type, while it's secondary type remains the same. It learns Dragonbreath at it's last stage only.

*Anonymous*

I could give her a bag.

Bag? To whom? What?

I'd give Falkner at least one Pokemon that's not normal/flying, after all it's not the normal/flying gym =P

GF screwd that part with the Johto gym types up IMO.

They had 17 types, 8 used by Kanto gyms. So one of the left 9 being flying, which no Pokemon has/will ever have as it's primary type, the obvious, logical and perfect decision would have been to include a Dark type gym and leave out flying but no....

I considered that, they will probably keep (at least 1 of each species) Pokemon from the lines they use the first time.

Falkner

Bugsy

Whitney

Morty

Chuck

Jasmine

Pryce

Clair

Will

Koga

Bruno

Karen

Lance

Lt. Surge

Sabrina

Erika

Janine

Misty

Brock

Blue He's got only Pokemon already used by someone else, so that's why I'd do the following with him:

Blaine

Give Entei q.q

Yanmega D:

I must have missed that screenshot. Do show?

EDIT: k

Vibrava

Mismagius.

"It has 130 Attack, but doesn't learn Flare Blitz )="

Huh?

I'm fine with Pressure.

Levitate is a different story. Specifically on Flygon.

It's a biased excuse for not being able to have the flying type.

They should have made flying a feature not a type.

Then Flygon would get a useful ability (sandstream? D: ) and ground moves wouldn't hit the Pokemon like Beedrill, Venomoth or Scizor.

and maybe even stuff like Shuppet or Froslass

Also some Pokemon could get types they now don't, like Zubat line could be Poison/Dark

Now I hear these creepy sounds in my head when hearing the E4 battle music q__q

It has 130 Attack, but doesn't learn Flare Blitz )=

Trapinch <3

Give Heatran!

Since new legendary Pokemon were created in Generation II, I was always curious what new legendaries* will come and where their palce will be in the whole picture.

So as the generations went on, I slowly realised there is some kind of structure or pattern behind it.

But first I have to make clear that this is based on the games and has as least as possible to do with what the Anime says as it treats them regarding it's own logic and stories (Thou shall not catch legendaries etc )

I also posted such a thread on another forum some time ago so some things will be copied from there.

So, there are obvious "relations" and hidden ones.

An obvious relation between legendaries would be:

-Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres are a trio.

The proof that one can really distinguish those kind of relations, before anything has been said about them officially, OR find ones that are held as secret by the game makers, is the reaction people had after checking Giratina at the time Dialga and Palkia were obvious counterparts, while there wasn't anything told about Giratina:

There were 2 kinds of opinions on forums.

The few people that checked Giratina's ingame features (base statuses, attacks, levels the attacks are learned, types....) and looked at it's design closely, said:

-Giratina is with no doubt the third counterpart to Palkia and Dialga

-Dialga, Palkia and Giratina are obviously a TRIO

-Giratina will be on the box of the 3rd installment etc....

Everyone else/the majority, answered:

-They're not related!

With Platinum announced it became clear that the former group was right about this.

*Now I have to determine what I mean with legendaries:

Every Pokemon normally known as legendary besides the 600TBS (total base stats) events, duos and just very special Pokemon:

-MEW*

It contains DNA of every other Pokemon

-MEWTWO

Manmade clone of Mew

-CELEBI, JIRACHI, SHAYMIN, MANAPHY

Event pokemon ("unobtainable") with special abilities, the regular MEW like Pokemon of it's generation

-LATIOS & LATIAS

The very rare eon duo

-DEOXYS

A mutated virus from space

-CRESSELIA & DARKRAI

Moon phase duo (like the Lati@s)

-HEATRAN

Piece of molten crap that eats crap (sounds like a potential Deoxys counterpart )

-PHIONE

At first it seems like theres no point in it. But with some thinking(DX) I figured that out:

Mewtwo is a stronger unnatural version of Mew

If they wanted to make the opposite with Manaphy, what would it be?

A weaker natural version.

Now what's the only natural thing legendaries are missing? Right, reproduction.

Mew vs. Arceus

You have probably all seen a thread like "Which ones the god?"

IMO, they tried to create 2 Pokemon that would represent the real-world's debate about the origin of life.

-Scientists belive Mew to be the ancestor of Pokemon

-Myths talk about Arceus creating the Universe

Theory of Evolution vs Religious creationism

=)

(The right answer is the third option: They were all created by humans from the real world.)

I'm going to list some interesting things about legendaries from each generation, but not the features, that mebmers of a trio have in common which prove the fact of them being a trio (just check their pokedex to see those (similar moveset/levels, base stats, abilities etc)).

Generation I

+Articuno

+Zapdos

+Moltres

-The Ice, Electric and Fire birds.

-They're found at places fitting their abilities and where they have probably chosen themselves to reside at.

-It's worth mentioning that Moltres was stronger in RBY when there was only 1 special stat.

Generation II

+Raikou

+Entei

+Suicune

Addition of another trio, the cats (lion, tiger and cheetah ARE NOT DOGS -.-).

-Electric, Fire sound familiar, but there is no Ice cat before them, but a Water one after them. This is what started my curiosity. Is there a reason why they did this with Suicune?

Yes. I think they realised, it would get too repetitive and boring if every generation had the same 3 types used for a legendary trio. Choosing 3 different types would get them like 3 good combinations (especially when ecluding possible secondary types like flying, bug or dragon).

So a complex and interesting solution is keeping some and changing some every generation! We will see.

-They are a perfectly balanced trio stat-wise, with Raikou having best S.Atk and Speed, Entei HP and Atk, and Suicune S.Def and Def

-Found in "hybernation mode"/asleep in a cave under a destroyed building

-After awaking them, they roam through the grasses of Johto

-Suicune plays a special role in Crystal

+Lugia

+Ho-oh

-The 2 new "Mewtwos", as those 3 were the only one with 680TBS (which is 100 more than legendary trios)

-2 towers were constructed by humans to show their gratitude, the Brass and Tin tower. They came resting on the tops. Ho-oh's tower was destroyed by a storm. Under it is the mentioned cave where the 3 Cat Pokemon, said to be resurrected by Ho-oh after dying, are found. Lugia flew away into the ocean, while Ho-oh sometime returns to the left standing tower.

So at the 2nd Generation, we have 2 huge flying monsters which seem to have some kind of guardian role to the 2 trios.

Generation III

+Regirock

+Regice

+Registeel

-A Rock, ICE and Steel Golem trio. Ice wasn't yet used twice in trios, so they repeat it and add 2 totally new types (probably because Ice and water in the same trio would be odd) which also fit the golem concept. Good job IMO.

-Very defensive oriented

-Regirock is the physical, Regice the special golem and Registeel is the balanced version of the other two.

-They're sealed into hidden caves, which for access require intelligence for reading braille instructions on solving puzzles.

-They don't have any real eyes (you'll see later why I mention this)

+Groudon

+Kyogre

+Rayquaza

-The ancient climate influencing 3.

-Well they actually are not a trio, because Rayquaza is superior to Groudon and Kyogre:

It has 680 TBS instead of 670

It has 2 types instead of 1

It has multi colored patterns on it's body instead of 1 colour

It's abilities disables the other 2's abilities effects.

-Rayquaza plays a guardian-like role in that it acts intelligent (Emerald event) instead of just going out on rampage after waking like Groudon and Kyogre

So we got another trio (without a fitting guardian) another big flying intelligent monster and 2 troublemaking monsters.

Generation IV

+Uxie

+Mesprit

+Azelf

-a whole psychic trio representing Knowledge, Emotion and Will.

I was a bit shocked about this as it made no sense what was going on here, as they seemed to have the regular trio 580 TBS, but at the same time looked extremely similar.

My prediction which I was 100% sure of happening was:

1 member being water type

1 either rock or steel

1 with an yet unused type for trio legendaries

q_Q?

After taking a deeper look at them I realised something interesting:

-Azelf represents Will, reminding me of how the birds are the only trio not to be sealed up somewhere

-Uxie represents Knowledge ---> Regi chambers (closed eyes)

-Mesprit:

Emotion

Balanced stats

Runs away and roams the region

->They are the past 3 trios in 3 Pokemon

+Regigigas

-4th bigger stronger golem (the birds got their guardian a generation later in Lugia)

-Surprisingly it has 670 stats, is asleep sealed in a temple (Kyogre, Groudon?).

+Dialga

+Palkia

+Giratina

-The dimension trio 680TBS.

-They live in different dimensions and are capable of altering those.

-They're part dragon... wait a second. Take a look at their primary types:

Steel

Water

Ghost

My explanation for why the missing type pattern was put on 680 monsters:

Gamefreak realised they got into a habbit of releasing THREE main games every generation, and adding a TRIO every generation. So they combined them.

We will see if the fifth generation will continue the type pattern on main legendaries or if they'll go back to 580.

But we can logicaly assume their primary types:

One will be surely rock, ghost will be saved for the 6th generation trio, so the other two will have yet unused types/one of the following:

Grass, Fight, Poison, Ground or Dark

Yay.

The legendary pattern as of Gen IV:

And the non-legendary legendaries:

Thanks for reading.

1.Do you find this as interesting as I do?

2.Does this make any logic to anyone else than me?

3.Anyone else can't wait to see what legendaries are coming next?