Klaatu

Alright, you mean we'd be able to get more by breeding the first one... that's a cool idea then. =)

I wonder what changes would the evolutions of JEPichu be... Their ears aren't really candidates for being jagged.

LOL

What would be the point of getting this freakin JEPichu by preordering a Cinematicket, tradeng the shiny Pichu etc, if there will be other ways to get one?

I used to like Giratina way more than Palkia and Dialga, but that was back in the times when everyone thought it was just some random piece of legendary crap between those Heatrans and Cresselias, even though it was extremely obvious it's part of the dimension trio.... now that to our surprise (NOT) Giratina covers the Platinum box, everyone goes like: GIRATINAAAAA ALL DA WAI ITS PWNAGE =P

I like it how GF always do things so ordered and balanced.

I mean for example how you got Dialga OR Palkia depending on version AND a Giratina. Pt has all 3. And as everyone at least has one of the main versions, they 100% have 1 of the trio members less times. So they give you a decision for getting 1 of those in HGSS

Palkia, cause I have:

2 Dialga (D Pt)

2 Giratina (D Pt)

1 Palkia (Pt)

And there's music <3

I wonder where those ruins are o__O

Mt.Silver or what?

LOL @ pal park for DPt->HGSS

Those will be able to trade normally...why wouldn't they? Because of JEPichu? There are better solutions for that.

But IMO there will be the time capsule in the game, as replacement for Palpark. The existence of the DSi doesn't kill it's purpose and it's not such a big feature to think about not including it....

Yeah probably. No rocks to scale in Johto (or is there?), so Rock Climb might change into Whirlpool. MIGHT. But they've never did this before X_X

Well there's alot of things they're doing with HGSS they never did before, especially if comparing what changes were made in FRLG from RBY with those drastic improvements, new areas and whatnot.

I highly doubt HMs can be changed, but then again... HMs aren't able to be traded anyways.

What else can they do?

They absolutely can't let us access the Whirl islands without having to use Whirlpool.

The only other realistic possibility would be an infinite move-tutor.

That's even a suiting idea.

But it would look odd when you had HMs 1-4 and 6-7, with 5 missing between

Hey, a thought just popped into mind! Since a lot of things are now being controlled with the touch screen, maybe the unown tiles will also be moved with the touch screen!

Well that's obvious.

I wonder if they'll leave the HM list like it is in DPt.

- DPt GSC

1 Cut Cut

2 Fly Fly

3 Surf Surf

4 Strength Strength

5 Defog Flash

6 Rock Smash Whirlpool

7 Waterfall Waterfall

8 Rock Climb -

Flash is a TM now, so it can NOT be a HM, as it's tradeable.

1 2 3 and 4 will remain the same.

Unless they add fog into any area, HM5 will either be Whirlpool or Rock Smash.

Waterfall has no reason to be changed. So the most likely:

Cut

Fly

Surf

Strength

Whirlpool

Rock Smash

Waterfall

Although I remember there are no honey trees on the Johto map despite this feature was originally meant for GS. This can only mean that headbutting trees will return, as there has to be a way to get all those Pokemon like Pineco Aipom and Heracross.

But, they cannot add TMs and none of them is Headbutt. My guess:

HM1 - Cut

HM2 - Fly

HM3 - Surf

HM4 - Strength

HM5 - Headbutt

HM6 - Rock Smash

HM7 - Waterfall

HM8 - Whirlpool

If I'm wrong, we will be forced to using Snubbull, Drowzee or Slowpoke for Headbutting XDDD

what about pokemons which evolve in certain areas like leafeon and glaceon

if the only evolve in areas of sinnoh are they going to evolve in hg and ss ???:confused:

I remember (does anyone know from where this could be) that all the new evolutions of known Pokemon are happening because of Sinnohs different climate and such.

So a Magneton only evolves near Mt.Coronet, while when a Yanma levels up in Sinnoh it learns Ancientpower, which also triggers evolution to Yanmega and so on.

So those evolutions are kind of Sinnoh-exclusive.

It wouldn't be hard to find locations for Leaf/Glaceon (Ilex forest, Ice Path) but it should not happen for obvious reasons ranging from exclusion in Johtodex to the 5 Kimono girls in Ecruteak City.

They could however include some of the new evolution items, of course after getting national dex and everything. For example you could run into Cynthia or anyone else and they'd give you a single Shiny stone or an Electrizer....

But we will surely need to trade the other Pokemon over to DPt too evolve them.

Mewtwo is a genetically improved version of Mew, the Pokemon that has genes of every other Pokemon.

Celetwo would be what? A genetically improved version of a Pokemon that can time travel?......

That's not really making sense to me, as Mew is far more special than Celebi will ever be.

I'm hoping that we can go to Jhoto and Kanto like the old games.

Though it would still be fun to have one master game where you can go to Kanto all the way to Sinnoh!

Sadly there was already an interview where the idea of an MMO was shot down. Pokemon is handheld only, and even with WiFi its still mainly a single player game...

Are there still people who think Kanto could possibly not be in the games?

Not just that we saw the train already, but now we also have a map where one can see the Route from Victory road leading to Viridian (23 or something)....

And Johto without Kanto is not realistic, there's too much that can't be just left out.

...Shikoku...

>_>

I really looks like it!

But the water between them looks just like a river or something, while it should have 4 small islands, 1 bigger and 1 really big island in there. Instead there are 4 islands east of Shikoku....)=

And the golden forest should already be half in the sea, yet there's alot of mountains further...

Like the lake being in the wrong place wasn't enough LOL

q.q

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/story/images/img_story_01_01.jpg

The whole map of Johto!!1 Although I want a bigger picture.............

Like I said, Cianwood has got new areas behind it, which at first appear to also hold a Pal park, but I hope I'm wrong and it's something more cool!

There really is something next to the Radio tower. GTS comes to mind.

A cloud is hiding the area west of Olivine City. It's big enough for 3 Battle towers O_O

And there definitely is soemthing as the beginning of the road leading up can be seen.

The golden area above Ecruteak city is highly suspicious!

How you get there? Around the Burnt tower is a path leading behind it...

My thoughts about one entrace to Mt.Mortar being higher on the mountain are shown to be real, as now we cna clearly see 4 caves.

The new river that goes from a cave near Blackthorn south to Newbark town could be a foretaste of Mt.Silver if it's enterable. Larvitars for us before E4 hopefully.

And for everyone who was doubting Kanto, even tough we know there was a train and that the E4 is in Kanto... you can now see part of Route 22 to the east...

And congratulations GF you screwed the similarity to realworld japan even more LOL

Now it's totally different around Cianwood and unclear which island it represents....

Klaatu, I can't get that page to load X_X

EDIT: It works now, but Blissey on Whitney? O_O

Oh boy, she'll be a perfect EXP farm

As it's a normal Johto Poké I didn't have a hard time deciding on that, I was rather worried about giving her Lickilicky...

The other thing that I'm not sure about is the unevolved Dragonair for Clairs rematch team, The Blastoise in Lances original team and the Venusaur for Koga... I did those 2 because it didn't seem fair to me that Charizard is used whilst the other 2 are not... and of course, because 3 Dragonites are dumb.

My most recent opinion on this:

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=9857255&postcount=584

Heh we get 2 GSDS games xDD

GoldenSun DS

Gold&Silver DS

Both will kick ass O=

I think we won't be able to transfer the Data as the original characters are probably already to old and the decendants now take their places in defeating enemies.

LOL. Anyways, I still think it's the Eeveelutions. Look how similar their movepools are with the legendary beasts. And how the Kimono Girls are using Eeveelutions in Ecruteak... is it just me or is something amiss?

If anything that way, they were 3 Eevees

Think about it. They couldn't have been elemental typed already.

If they were a Fire, Electric and a Water Pokemon all along, then Ho-oh did nothing more but resurrect them and give them a power boost.

But the legend says Ho-oh embodied them with the elements of the events that happened:

Lightning strike->Electric

Tower burning->Fire

Rain->Water

Ratattas becoming a totally different type of mammal seems too odd for me.

Then the Eevees are a bit more suitung but still...

Btw. What else can we found in the Routes around Ecruteak city? Meowths, which are cat-like Pokemon.

They just like to make things rather balanced and I like this absolutely.

It would be rather strange if there was a Pokemon game where you'd get 3 different fire-like/red pokemon in 1 version and some other 3 water-like/blue pokemon in the other version.

I love it how now there is a set of games that has the 3 flying guardians Lugia, Ho-oh, Rayquaza in it =D

Btw: Why is everyone sure we will be able to let any Pokemon follow you?

IIRC it said in the scans that we can let out anything from the starter to legendaries.

This doesn't necessary mean every Pokemon IMO

If we assume they'll put every left legendary in it that's not available in 4th gen yet:

Birds Pt

Mewtwo HGSS (Cerulian cave/Cinabar volcano/new location)

Mew HGSS (wifi event)

Beasts HGSS

Lugia & Ho-oh HGSS

Celebi HGSS (wifi event)

Regis Pt

Lati@s HGSS (new/southern/sevii 8 islands)

Groudon/Kyogre HGSS (new area behind Cianwood/sevii 8)

Rayquaza HGSS(no clue)

Deoxys HGSS (new area/sevii 9)

Jirachi HGSS (white rock in Kanto, wifi event)

Uxie Mesprit Azelf DPt

Dialga Palkia Giratina DPt, one in HGSS

Heatran DPt

Regigigas DPt

Cresselia DPt

Darkrai DPt

Manaphy and Phione, Ranger... (lol)

Shaymin DPt

Arceus DPt

An idea would be Sevii island 8, where Ho-oh and Lugia were found in the 3rd generation. It could serve as location for the climate legends. Kyogre/Groudon in the underground and Rayquaza at top when you have the other 2.

Hmm...

I'm sure we'll get 1 starter out of 3. But not if one from Hoenn or Kanto.

Thinking again... there will probably be 1 Hoenn and 1 Kanto starter available some way...

I meant and said, everything in the air. If a flying Pokemon is gonna walk then it's not in the air, while Magneton or Weezing will abosultely levitate above ground.

You'll set it somehow.

Does it matter?

There can be a Send out! option next to Stats,Switch,Item

or something no one ever expected via touch screen, like take and drop left to it....

That was my thought, water 1, 2 and 3 + everything that knows surf (+ everything in the air?) can follow you in water, while those from water 1 could also on land with everything else

Right

Gloom can evolve into 2 different Pokémon but you would need 2 Gloom to get each evolution, while Nincada also creates a clone of itself in Shedinja, therefore 1 Pokémon evolves into 2.

Hehe

Otherwise there'd be more possibilities and I'm always trying to be very precise =)

Would fish Pokémon float in mid air then?

That would be odd.

Maybe fish Pokémon can follow you while surfing?

Altough it would be strange if the Seaking behind you was smaller than the Surf-fish considering you're using something like Poliwag.

I've been saying that they did this the entire time for the daycare, and no one believed me. Finally, thank you for proving my point. I think they will just do the thing the ranch did. Shrink them down to size to fit it. Makes sense right?

Yes, except what about swimming and immobile Pokémon D:

Metapod following you ahahaha....

Diglett digging up all the surface even when you go through a building LOL Don't think those thirsty guards will laugh about that.

"Cloyster, why don't you follow me? Jump or roll or something..."

Heh tough it would be cool if Voltorb and Electrode were rolling behind you

Exeggcute Scenario:

"...Ey guys careful, don't step on my eggs!"

Snorlax:

"..cmon theres food at the other end of the Route...no don't sleep again -.-"

Sudowoodo

"No one belives you're a tree anymore, so come on..."

Slakoth.....

Clamperl jump!

Magikarp die?

Seaking you still alive?

I probably won't have some pile of rocks walk behind me the most of the time as I doubt you can have one while riding the bike <3

Not necessarily in line but I call bullsh*t on Dragonite being the evo for Dragonair. I don't see how a beautiful Dragonair become a lumbering idiot of a Dragonite(Although quite lovable).

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That always tweaked me in my Yellow game. I mean it was a b*tch and a half to get a Dratini, and then it evolved into a stupid looking pokemon.

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Also how come Golduck is not psychic???? Hell how come Psyduck isn't for that matter?

コダック Koduck

"Its Japanese name can be taken to mean small duck." - Bulbapedia

No Psy in japanese name =P

Before 4th gen was really out I was speculating that the new Fire/Steel Pokemon known as Heatran would turn out to be Torkoals evo. LOL