Klaatu

A Pokémon that evolves into 2 Pokémon.

=P

If you were commenting on my statement about Pokemon placement, you misinterpreted my meaning. I didn't mean placement in the Dex, I mean in the region itself. They have had years to think about this and have plenty of space now, so I'm sure the Pokemon placement will be better thought out, though still pretty similar. ex.) Houdour or Slugma in the Burnt tower?

I posted some time ago also that Slugma could be in the Burnt tower. But Houndour?

The perfcet place for Houndour would be Growlithe/Vulpix areas at night.

Similar for Murkrow in the few Spearow areas or replacing something other.

What about Misdreavus?

If it would appear somewhere before you end the whole game (<,<) there would be higher chances for Morty using one =D

Say no to 4 Gastly-line team

Ilex forest at night? Seems to Sinnoh-ish

Lighthouse at night? um.....

Burnt tower at night?

Oh and soemthing more regarding the stupid Johtodex order.

WTF is Diglett doing at #132?

It's not like you find it elsewhere than Diglett cave after 5 Kanto gyms

Ahh the light house i forgot about that..they seem a bit close together for it to be a lighthouse though and the light house is south not east...

I think those 2 will probably be in victory road,mt.mortar or mt.silver? i dunno..slugma on cycling road lol that was so stupid

They were saving Slugma for a volcano interior on Cinabar, but got space problems. There's no reason now why you couldn't be able to go into the volcano.

But why Houndour in Kanto only? That was unacceptable q.q

And will probably remain so.

The placement in the Johtodex will remain the same.

You can see numbers of Pokemon on a picture. All of them are the same. And as they won't leave any Kanto Pokémon out (Lance has Aerodactyl and Charizard) I highly doubt they'll change anything.

Poor stuff like Misdreavus and Houndour q.q

And what about Sneasel? It was in the Ice cave in Crystal, why put it at the last 50 of a 250 long Pokedex? That's even behind Cubone and Kangaskhan who are catchable in 1 area in Kanto <,<

I don't get it how Water 2 Pokémon can walk behind you? They don't have legs and need water

What if instead of walking behind you, sprites of those will be used to replace the Lapras/Wailmer/Surfing Fish and actually show you on what you're surfing?

Go Poliwag Surf...............

If I'm not mistaken (pic with Wobbuffet), I can get myself a Mareep before challenging Falkner due to the new patch of Grass =DDDDDDDd

Now that ^ seems more probable

It appears the train that goes from goldenrod to saffron goes underwater! cool!

Either that or it is incomplete...

And also further to the left of that new park area (port?) i can see a church of some sort....Arceus anyone?..O_o

And i can see a bit of the lake of rage too!Gah i am too excited i want this game!!!!!!

That's no church, its definitely the lighthouse. Its where it should be considering the road slightly northwest of it.

The train probably goes into a cave, which we cannot see because of 1 or 2 cm of the map missing in between the pages (which is also why there's no Sprout tower).

But it's interesting that it's still over ground when going through the Route =D

Crap, chances for Houndour appearing in Johto fell with it again being number 2xx somewhere before the Kanto fossils and starters -___-

But hopefully there'll be a volcano, so we don't find Slugma on a stupid place like the cycling road o____O"

that area next to the park looks like a port of some sort..In the johto map there was all water to the right of the park my guess is that its a ferry to a new area!

Ha that steelix looks funny that doesnt look like larvitar to me more like keckleon..O_o

And goldenrod looks way different

No I see it now, its Politoed! =DDDDDDdddddd

Goldenrod seems quite the same to me

Beside the rail being above ground, the PC, mart, gamecroner, radio tower, name rater, bicycle seller house and the other few houses are arranged exactly the same.

Oh, you mentioned the port. Maybe it's just the port where you get underground, but east instead of south? Altough I don't see any ship or anything LOL

I'm the most interested in those bridges southwest of Cianwood O_O

Also the ponds north of those!

Sorry but your links are terrible and don't wanna work. So heres new ones...

http://nov.2chan.net:81/b/src/1244784671466.jpg

http://nov.2chan.net:81/b/src/1244785163634.jpg

http://nov.2chan.net:81/b/src/1244784947960.jpg

I'm excited that all 493 Pokemon can follow you. And you know why they did this, so that they had all the sprites for when you put your Pokemon in the daycare. Though this raises the question how Pokemon with larger sprites are going to work. Can you imagine your little character trotting along with the big old Origin for Giratina or Regigigas sprites following behind you? They wouldn't fit in most of the rooms you go into.

Also, Arceus event with a Level 1 Giratina, Dialga, or Palkia is confirmed. Why its included, no idea, but its true....

Not sure how much I like the Poke'Dex, Poke'Gear, and other menu upgrades. I'm used to the rounded one with a smooth look to them in D/P/Pt and these new ones look a bit square/sharp/boxy. I'm sure I'll adjust though, but I doo like the touch screen functionality thats been implemented into everything. Almost everything in HGSS seems to be getting a huge overhaul.

Those are the scans I meant yeah, but tried posting links from them on filb.de Which automatically don't work.

Maybe the new area next to National Park is a fishing contest or something? DX

Yeah they did the overworld sprites cause of the daycare so why not let them follow you hehe.

Seeing how Steelix is not THAT huge on there, the others shouldn't really be problematic.

What I wonder is, if water 2 (fish-like) Pokémon can follow you?

In Daycare there's a pool for those

Wailord noez.... DX

Even stuff like Wobbuffet, Larvitar and Steelix can follow you outside it's Pokéball!

(filb.de)

And now it's clear, the "New Pokedex" is back. Mareep #53, Togepi #46 etc.

Btw, there is something totally new right west to the National Park. No real clue what this could be. New rocket base? Battle tent-like building? Something to do with Kyogre/Groudon?

A kind of tower is east to Mt.Mortar? Mt.Mortar got a hole that's higher than the others?

The Ruins look kewl

The Route down from Blackthorn looks different too. Don't remember that river there.

Cool visual imrpovements for windows like Team stats, PC box, items O=

The Rocket is in front of the Radio tower like always. I wanna play this q.q

You get some crap figures again for preordering (July4+), lol Arceus

The Route from Ilex Forest->Goldenrod looks so fresh and 201 like ....

Pokewalker looks crap =o

But yay cool intros with Tin tower and Lugia behind a waterfall O:

EDIT: OMG OMG OMG (doesn't mean I believe in some god btw)

LOOK AT THE FIRST SCAN

under elms hand

Cianwood

RIVER

BRIDGES

new place =DDDd

Jigglypuff?

If I understand correctly it's either Slaking or Regigigas?

Now I just hope they don't screw those games up too much D:

There better be some highly intelligent and reasonable explanations for Hoenn legends and such...

Maybe they are going to improve the relations of the legendaries, like mention something about Rayquaza being the 3rd big huge flying guardian legend also residing on a tower in another region

LOL not going to happen... hmmm

I knew they'll put other palpark legends in it after the regis and birds were confirmed for Pt.

Now everyone who said stuff like "Mewtwo won't be in" or "Jirachi event doesn't make sense in those games", think again.

The big Hoenn legends were the last on the list of probable non-Johto legends included in HGSS.

I'm (still) sure there will be at least 1 Lati@s roaming around (Kanto) in each game.

The chances for Jirachi ingame (wifi) event at white rock in Kanto have risen alot too IMO.

And Mewtwo? NOW WAI /jk That's the most obvious.

Oh, btw Deoxys plx

Offtopic: anyone check out my water starter @ sig LOL

Dusknoir

What's this??

Something with a face pattern on it's back? Like Spinarak or Mantyke =q

It probably isn't Girafarig o:

Hmmm...upset... Exploud? o_o

Well, you said no Lance... he's not part of the E4, but you said him. Confusing.

I would say Kingdra, but Lance has one. Hmm...

That doesn't leave any water-types... O_o We're talking about the video games, right?

Another hint?

Well Lance is the fourth E4 member in Kanto.

Oh... I meant Kingdra, but wasn't aware of the fact that Lance uses one. Therefore "not used by Lance..." fails. It could be a species they use, but I don't mean theirs aka if anyone else uses it, it still goes.

LOL

I don't mean Lance's Kingdra.

Which Kingdra is it?

Yeah we're talking about the games (like EMERALD)

Dx

There are a few choices...

Blastoise, Vaporeon, Wailord, Tentacruel, Milotic...

Since it's a primary, is it Tentacruel?

Nope

elite 4 members don't use those =P

Sealeo =D The Ice/Water Pokemon D:

EDIT:No one?

A primary water Pokemon used by an E4 member, which is:

-not secondary Dark or psychic

-not used by Bertha, Lance or Lorelei.

=)?

Just do it when no one does FLOOTENKERP.

The middle stage of a 3 staged secondary water Pokemon.

That's amazing. Anyways, back on topic, maybe Giovanni could use a Rhyperior instead of his Rhydon.

Definitely not prior obtaining the national dex =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39N-vV-9xO0

That's the best news I saw this year =DDDDDDDDDDDDDddddddddddd

someone pinch me please?? Hope I don't wake up LOL

Klaatu, I don't understand what you were trying to say about Togekiss and the Lati twins though :-/

See those blue and red triangle symbols on Togepi's shell and Togetic's body?

Latios and Latias have a red and blue triangle symbol on their chests respectively. Their "armor" is of the other colour and their skin is like that of Togetic. Not to mention the body structure.

I seems rather odd to think they were unique Pokemon already before dying.

But why does everyone want them to have been 3 different species?

That's totally flawed.

If for example they were the eevee trio before (or growlithe electrike or whatever), then they already had the elemental powers of thunder fire and rain.

That would mean Ho-oh simply made them more powerful!

But Ho-oh embodied them with the three events that happened at the tower: thunder, burn and rain.

So they could have been the same species or 3 different, but without the types! <.<

@Hottsushiz

They aren't just swapped, but they also get better developed brains than real animals, not?

Killing Pokemon seems almost similar to killing people to me.

Who said the berries and other fruit don't include ingredients and whatnot that you would normally obtain through animal meat? That's my explanation

Stall Sableye?

Pokemon give an amount of EPs depending on their stage in a line. For example:

Bulbasaur 1sp.Atk

Ivysaur 1sp.Atk 1sp.Def

Venusaur 2sp.Atk 1sp.Def

1 2 3

3 is max. and 1 min.

Chansey always gave 2 EP despite being the 1st in it's evolutionary line.

Gen 4 arrives

Oh, hi Happiny

The following is a list of Pokemon which give more than 1 EP altough they're the 1st stage of their line:

Kangaskhan 2 HP

Pinsir 2 Atk (despite Scyther giving 1)

Tauros 1 Atk 1 Spe

Lickitung 2 HP (Lickilicky 3 HP)

Lapras 2 HP

Aerodactyl 2 Spe

Girafarig 2 S.Atk (Stantler which seems like the same league gives 1)

Heracross 2 Atk

Corsola 1 Def 1 S.Def

Skarmory 2 Def (like Mantine, who got a pre-evo)

Miltank 2 Def

Sableye 1 Atk 1 Def

Mawile 1 Atk 1 Def

Torkoal 2 Def

Zangoose 2 Atk

Seviper 1 Atk 1 S.Atk

Solrock 2 Atk

Lunatone 2 S.Atk

Tropius 2 HP

Absol 2 Atk (Chimecho too, got pre-evo)

Relicanth 1 HP 1 Def

Carnivine 2 Atk

I left out stuff that surely won't have a pre-evo like Unown, but maybe missed some

I always thought Torkoal was the final evolution of Slugma, but apparently not. I mean, they share the same basic color scheme, and weirder evolutions have happened before (sheep into sheep into.... What IS Ampharos, anyways? .-.)

----> ---->

They look quite similar, if you ask me. Methinks GF is tired of "That Generic 3-Step Evolution Pokemon" and cuts some out.

That's really all I have for now, I'll try and think of some more. >_>

Yeah, but that's too drastic. A slug made of magma turning into a tortoise thats orange.

But it could be that they were trying to make an Magcargo evo and decided a tortoise would rock more (pun at being pure fire lol)

Btw it's not fair GF is giving new stages to some pokes but not their counterparts

(Chimecho - Absol

Dusclops - Banette

Mantine - Skarmory

Piloswine - Magcargo)

Maybe they'll get theirs in gen5 lol