Tbird

Right. My idea is this ... Don't laugh ... Someone earlier pointed out it has a Lati@s arm. Sooo, here's my thinking, it is the lati twin's master. Would tie in real well with 'Z master idea.'

My guess is that either on it's stomach or forehead it will have one of those triangle patterny things that is shared by the lati twins (and also on the togis.)

(this stuff)

Or maybe be a bit satanic and have a red triangle + blue triangle made into some weird star?

Ok the latter part is a bit silly, but the rest is plausible no?

Dugtrio @ Focus Sash

Nature: Adamant

Ability: Arena Trap

4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd

-Aerial Ace

-Earthquake

-Endure

-Reversal

Another one with Focus Sash, but I definitely need it for my worst nightmare made real: Infernape. That blazing monkey is the best counter for basically the whole team, so with Arena Trap he can`t get away from an OHKO Earthquake. Aerial Ace for extra covering and Endure + Reversal...well, you know that strategy. And since Dugtrio is pretty fast he can perform that well.

I don't see the point in both Endure and Focus sash, If something breaks the band with a potential OHKO move and has a priority move, you'll eventually get hit anyway. And in OU there are many Priority movers, such as the Infernape you're trying to counter . Why not take out endure and pop on Sucker punch? I mean (If dugtrio has base 110 speed Like I think it does) Duggy will always outrun Infernape without the priority, so you can earthquake him, and if he is still living, outspeed him with your own priority move.

Might have been a bad example I just don't see the point in both, really.

Gl though, looks better than the last one if you can pull it off

Dude this will probably get closed so I suggest you take a look at this thread so that when you decide to remake it you'll understand what to do.

http://www.projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?977-Rate-My-Team-Rules-and-Formatting-%5BREAD-ME-FIRST%5D-%288-29-09-Update-Illithian%29

I'd strongly suggest having a spinner seeing as you have Arcanine on your team. In regards to absol, if SR is in play infernape will OH KO feraligatr with anyone of it's moves that were meant for Absol. And if it doesn't you will always be outsped by infernape who will proceed to vacuum wave OR grass knot feraligatr to oblivion, so I really would recommend sucker punch as you'll still have that 50% for stone edge and psycho cut. I mean what's the point in 50% crit if you're dead before you can utilize it.

With Arcanine, morning sun is there so he can take a bit of a beating and attack back, also as his secondary move (extreme speed, the strongest priority attack in the game) get's to go first most of the time you aren't really going to need the speed Ev's or as much as you have right now anyway. With 0 speed investment you will always out run sczor, meaning your extreme will go first anyway, plus if your using flare blitz the first attack will be his bullet punch aynway; again making speed evs redundant. Similarly with no speed investment you can take a +2 Extreme speed from lucario and attack back with flare blitz for the OHKO and surviving another day. Basically for the people you need speed against you have Extreme speed and for those you don't need speed (grass, bug ice etc) you have flare blitz. I mean the main pokemon you're looking to counter you already outspeed, and the ones that are going to counter you don't matter because you have a counter ready for them anyway.

Suggestions in Bold

i just dont understand why do you enjoy closing my threads random. you could just have told me to edit it to make it understandable.....not closing it and making me make another one >_>

anyways, here it is AGAIN.

Metagross w/Leftovers. Ability: Clear Body. Nature: Adamant. 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Sp. Def

-Meteor Mash / explosion

-Eartquake

-Stealth Rock

-Zen Headbutt /Bullet punch

*Moved to the front because you say he's your lead, so it'd be easier to know this if he was at the front.

I'd say you want Explosion over Meteor Mash if he's going to be your lead, simply because of his already massive attack Explosion is going to be great should things start to hit the fan. And can also be used in the later game for the same reason. Come in on something like ice shard (if weavile is being annoying) then just explode him, eliminating that threat. Or even if blisseys being a pain, whatever, it's just a good move to have as a last resort. The Goal is to set Stealth rock up, so that's a keeper, so is earthquake for it's massive coverage. Then bullet punch is there to insure a 2HKO when earthquake hasn't finnished the job off, or even for revenge killed on a poke that hasn't itself got a priority move, or even taking out frosslass leads before they get a chance to spike you. Also I'd boost the HP for better livability - this way it can take both a specially orientated move or a physically inclined move and still hit back

Feraligatr w/Leftovers. Ability: Torrent. Nature: Adamant. EV's: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def

-Ice Punch

-Waterfall

-Dragon Dance

-Earthquake

Looks fine

Scizor w/Iron Plate. Ability: Technician. Nature: Adamant. EV's: 252 Atk / 128 Def / 128 Sp. Def

-Bug Bite

-Swords Dance

-Bullet Punch

-Roost

I feel that scizor kind of becomes redundant on this team given that you alrady have the coverage that scizor provides in form of absol and metagross. And as you have an Arcanine on the team I feel you're going to want a spinner, and I think that the spinner could take this guys place. Id recommend Hitmontop here (and I'll justify further a bit later as to why.)

This set should work well:

Hitmontop (M) @ Black Belt/Expert Belt/Leftovers

Ability: Intimidate

EVs: 252 Atk/100 Def/152 SDef

Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)

- Close Combat

- Sucker Punch

- Stone Edge/Toxic

- Rapid Spin

Hitmontop is a hard hitting spinner that is genger and rotom bait for sure. And that is why it is best to throw on sucker punch. Genger/Rotom will come in to block your spin attempt and probably try to attack you, hit 'em with sucker punch and you'll be fine. Close combat is a good string stab attack that's going to help break things like blissey. Rapid spin for obvious reasons. Stone edge is there if you decide to not give absol stone edge, and then you're covering birds/fires too. If you run stone edge on absol then Toxic is cool here to just help with passive damage ensuring you some more 1/2Hko's

Absol w/Razor Claw. Ability: Super Luck. Nature: Jolly. EV's: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP

-Psycho Cut

-Detect Swords Dance

-Stone Edge / Shadow Claw

-Night SlashSucker punch

Absol needs that priority stab move as he isn't the fastest pokemon going and is quick frail, so for the times when you're going to be out sped you need that sucker punch. Swords dance is there for boosting the power of sucker punch, which id going to be needed for when infernape come to ruin the fun. One swords danced sucker punch will OHKO infernape if stealth rocks are laid out. Without sucker punch, he's going to outspeed you and smack you in the face with focus blast and kill you

Arcanine w/Leftovers. Ability: Intimidate. Nature: Adamant. EV's: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP

-Flare Blitz

-Extremespeed

-Howl

-Morning Sun

Glad you took my advice, though I really do feel you should pump the HP Ev's

Electivire w/Expert Belt. Ability: Motor Drive. Nature: Adamant. 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Sp. Def

-Thunderpunch

-Earthquake

-Cross Chop

-Ice Punch

Again Electivire is another pokemon that is made redundant because his coverage is provided by hitmontop, metagross and absol. So I recommend a spin blocker so that you can get those necessary 1hkos from both arcanine and absol.

Gengar (M) @ Life Orb

Ability: Levitate

EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk

Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)

- Hypnosis

- Focus Blast

- Shadow Ball

- Thunderbolt

Hypnosis is necessary to shut down pokemon that will threaten to sweep your team, or kill your sweepers. If you put something to sleep, switch in either absol or arcanine and get the desired boosts (1SD with Absol/ 3/4 Howls with Arcanine) and rip open. You still have the coverage that electivire had except from a different spectrum and harder attack with more use.

If i'm missing anything please tell me so i can add it....PLEASE DONT CLOSE.

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I don't know if you're particularly bothered about it or not but I found:

"Project Pokémon Tournaments

Talk about the torunaments that will be organized by Project Pokémon."

Just thought I'd point it out.

Hey man you're going to want the EV's and a bit about the roles, just so we know what to say. The moves alone don't really say all that much so yeah, help us to help you by giving a bit of info .

But from what I can see I think you'd be best to give Arcanine morning sun over swagger, simply because it looks like your plan is to howl up to as much as possible then start attacking. because people will want to stop you doing this you'll take a lot of damage and as such you'll want to heal that off before you start attacking. If you don't want to use morning sun then I think it would be best to throw fire blast on over flare blitz, simply because you'll be taking a lot of damage as it is, meaning you may only get one flare blitz in then KO yourself with recoil; plus Arcanine does have a usable special attack and fire blitz will be pretty strong given the right Ev Spread. Ummm If I were you I'd max out the HP and Attack (if you have morning sun over swagger) just because this will allow Arcanine to live a lot longer and attack back hard, and with the priority move you shouldn't find too many problems - if you do that's why morning sun is there. You could run the same stats aswell with fire blast over flare blitz because no Ev's in SPATK will guarantee 1hko on both Lucario and Scizor, and with the HP Ev's you'll survive both extremespeed and bullet punch.

I imagine it would pan out something like this:

Take damage - Howl - Take Damage - Morning sun - Opponent switch - Howl - Take damage - Howl -Take Damage - Morning Sun - take damage - Morning sun - Fire blast - extreme speed - Oponant switch - Take damage - Fire blast - Extreme speed - Morning sun ... and well so on, so long as you don't come up against hippowdon/salamence/Tyranitar/Gliscor/Suicune etc

Well I was kind of going for 'A jack of all' type of thing with the Moltres. Do you think I should be going just the one way or the other then? I'll have a look at some different Offence/defence sets and see what works. I was going for a bit everything For it, so I guess that, if nothing else, just makes it a mess. And I gotta say she's not been exactly great, hence my willingness to change. But I guess simply changing the set is better than changing the whole bloody poke lol.

Thanks for all your comments everyone.

Ooo thanks I hadn't thought of Mismagius, and I do really like her. Thanks man. I might try and play around with other moves and sets though; so I wont put her in the OP until I found something workable for me.

And I suppose that does make more sense; you know making it fully UU.

If someone could change the title to simply Rate my UU team that'd be great.

Purpose? Well I guess that would simply to be in the oddest fashion ever lol. I'm still not very good at the whole making a team though . The above does work until I come up against a team that's pretty much the standard (You know a salamence, a scizor, a blissey, a rotom) then it all kind of goes to pot. So I guess the purpose would be expose the OU pokes to a taste of their own medicine, by using the things that kill them, or are good but get over shadowed/under looked/ or other wise forgotten.

(For instance my Ambipom - U-Turn - Swampert covers pretty much every lead you'll come across.

I have radically changed my team since I posted this as it started getting blown apart, so although I hate having to change a team due to being up against the above killers, it's all a part of the game.

I'm gunna really need a hand with the Swampert set, because although he works better, I just can't get him to work properly. *sigh*

I'll amend the OP now.

Hey bud not got time to look at your team yet but you're going to want a bit about your reasoning as to why you chose these pokes and add an opinion maybe note some threats and ask specifically what you want improved/suggested. Otherwise someone'll close the thread. .

Just a few quick things... with your Umbreon You should run payback with curse give it 0 spd IV's And maybe take your def EV's and pump the attack because curse already pumps the defence for you.

Similarly you might want to run bullet punch over X-Scissor on Scizor. He's not got great speed so the stab and technician priority move works wonders.

(However there might be a reason why you chose this, so its best to put your reasoning before hand so people know what to say)

Best of luck.

Amendment

I realised after reading a comment left by Wraith that my team had no purpose other than to be used. Which, although I think is a reasonable purpose, isn't going to help me in coming up with a good team or win all that much lol.

So here's my revamped team, with bit more thought in mind as to what it is I want to do - Simply Put I want to beat everything in a way that makes people go 'Damn I did not see that coming.'

(Worked out how to do this quick without typing .. took me Damn near two hours last time )

Mr Jackson (Ambipom) (M) @ Muscle Band

Ability: Technician

EVs:

Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)

- Aerial Ace

- Fake Out

- Taunt

- U-turn

Ambipom is quite Possibly my favourite Pokemon in the whole world. But what I love about him competitively is his ability to just be awesome. I have always loved Fake-Out just because it's a good way to get the game started; taking the first move while doing amazing damage against those that Aren't made of rock, steel ... or ectoplasm. Taunt is there For obvious Reasons - I have a Moltres on my team, the last thing I need is bloody stealth rock. Aerial ace is there for a good solid attack that is super damaging to fighting types (should they wish to switch in), grass types, bug types blah blah. U-turn is there for when he has done his job - Weakened the opponent's lead and prevented stealth rock/gravity/any other weird business they are trying to pull off.

The Ev's and nature are there purely because that is all he needs, get in and get out as quick as he can while doing what he can.

Muscle band is used over silk scarf because I want all my moves to get a little something extra, aerial ace and U-turn really need that extra boost just to get significant damage at times.

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Milotic (M) @ Flame Orb

Ability: Marvel Scale

EVs: 240 HP/12 Def/252 SAtk

Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)

- Recover

- Ice Beam

- Surf

- Hidden Power [Ground]

(Originally Swampert: Willing to revert if you can think of a really good set)

Milotic. Well First off you'll notice the flame orb. People have warmed against using it; for obvious reason, but frankly I won't be sending him out against electrics or leafs so I should sustain enough damage to outweigh the 50% defence boost. Anyway, his job is to come in on the things that Ambipom couldn't handle himself, this would be things like Aerodactyl, Regirock, Registeel, Steelix, Lucario etc etc. The plan with Milo is to soak up the attack that was planned for Ambipom (usually an earthquake) and strike back with water ever move is necessary. For instance, I've taunted a Lucario and now I just want to get out of there ASAP, U-turn to Milotic and open up with HP ground (which I think get's a 2HKO, not actually checked it out yet ).

He's also a tank of sorts, as you can see with the EV spread. Milotic doesn't really outspeed that much, and I thought I may aswell exploit his already bulky as hell defences and pump his HP and max his SPatk. Just to ensure what ever he's hitting is going down lol.

Ice beam for dragons mainly, I was kinda hoping he'd be bulky enough to take on Salamence and win... wishful thinking?

Surf - Reliable STAB.

HP Ground - the reason for this poke in the first place - take out steels (while being able to get rock and dragons too )

Recover - Needed for the lost HP (which is like 2% more lost than life orb with more benefit; right?) and somewhat justify the choice of Flame orb over leftovers.

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Moltres @ Leftovers

Ability: Pressure

EVs: 240 HP/38 Def/112 Spd/120 SAtk

Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)

- Air Slash

- Roost

- Fire Blast

- Hidden Power [ice]/Toxic

Note: I'm willing to change him for something else as long as it has the same coverage and isn't called Heatran or Infernape or anything that destroys the initial idea

I gotta say I just like bulkiness. I used to love that whole fast as hell, come in whoop ass and that's your lot, but frankly I find bulky sets more exciting, if not for the Spreads being good to look at. I'll level with you, I don't understand the EV's I took them from Smogon.

His Job is to basically just be another tank, covering those of which Milotic can't.

Air Slash is there for any fighting types that somehow get passed Ambipom (such as Scarfed Infernape).

Roost - People like to hit him

Fire blast is a very good Stab attack that .. well it destroys things. Come in on weavile's ice shard/brick break and whoop his ass (or Scizor's bullet punch/superpower)

HP Ice and Toxic are both really good and kinda determine this set. I could toxic Stall or cover pretty much everything - both work really well so I'm undecided

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Hitmontop (M) @ Black Belt

Ability: Intimidate

EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/6 SDef

Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)

- Close Combat

- Sucker Punch

- Stone Edge

- Rapid Spin

I do really like hitmontop. I have chosen him over my initial Tentacruel because I had a better water type and lacked a fighting type. Again he's kind of tank like - he's a hitmon so naturally has got a really good SPdef, got good attack and can spin. His only deficits are his speed and HP, due to his low speed he wouldn't be able to outpace much and would still have poor HP, sO I thought it'd be best to outpace none and survive more. He's my designated spinner for Moltres and my Blissy/Walrein/Genger counter.

Close combat is a good solid STAB attack - obvious choice

Sucker punch puts the hurt on incoming Gengar and other ghost that come in to not allow me my rapid spin, OHKO on Gengar so happy days - also for psychics.

Stone Edge is for flyers and anyone else that needs an edgin'!

Rapid spin - Y'all know why lol.

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Regirock @ Leftovers

Ability: Clear Body

EVs: 252 HP/36 Atk/220 SDef

Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)

- Stone Edge

- Superpower

- Explosion

- Stealth Rock

Regirock is my physical wall and exploder for when the brown stuff hits the fan. He can take hits and hit back hard as hayell. He's also my SR layer. Although I do hate SR; I figure if you can't beat them join them. All he really needs is a reliable healing move and he'd be a God - More of a God. I'm stuck between Stone Edge and Super Power though - They both have their strong points but I'd really like earthquake in there and can't really give up either of the other two moves; your verdict?

Stone edge is there for Salamence again should I need too - Come in on outrage and then put the hurtin' on em'!

Superpower probably is the one I will remove for Earthquake, however should hitmontop Die I have no one else that can attack normals or dark types - as efficiently anyway

Explosion - Can win games if I am 2 - 1 up .. so it's always good

SR - as mentioned above.

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Mismagius (M) @ Leftovers

Ability: Levitate

EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk

Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)

- Shadow Ball

- Thunderbolt

- Substitute

- Calm Mind

As recommended.

As I'm yet to try her out I can only comment on the theory behind this choice. Other than being recommended - She has a very high speed, spatk and spdef. The strategy, as said below, is to come in on any of her resistances (ground, fighter, normal) or special attacker get a sub, boost up and then get my sweep on. I have chose calm mind over nasty plot because, although it takes longer to get to the desired level of boostage, it boosts the spdef too allowing for a stronger sub meaning more leftover recovery - harder to kill. I have chose Tbolt over HP fighting simply because Honchcrow would appear to be my biggest threat and Tbolt is going to hurt (though if I come up against sucker punch I'm screwed anyway) And because I have Hitmontop to weaker if not take out any darks that threaten to kill her.

straught 252/252 because she's a sweeper.

Shadow ball for stab.

Tbolt already explained

Sub CM - kind of the point of this set.

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Really good points here. I got to say I hate SR. Pretty much just sour grapes on my part. I feel the same as everyone else no need to go over every point again. I wouldn't like to see it banned because then you are just taking away a part of the game. And frankly if someone is packing SR that's one pokemon on there team lost (In a role sense anyway.) People might not like packing a rapid spinner, but you got to think on the other hand the opponent has given up a roll for his SR. It's give and take in that sense.

Due to there be so many good and bad points for it to be banned I think it would be a good idea to simply slam a clause into the game wherein a player can decide whether or not he/she wants to be involved with SR. But even that could be detrimental - I mean if you put a clause on any move that has a somewhat valid case behind it we'll all be up the creek when all of a sudden 100 people rise up asking for a ban on sucker punch because Absol keeps killing their Gengar; it'll be hard to say no when they play the 'SR clause' card.

So although I'd really love to see SR banned so that I can use some of my favourites more often, and because I think it'd add to the game by creating more choice and allowance of new strategies, I think for the time being it's a case of don't fix what aint broken. (In the same breath I am really really really for the clause idea though :L)

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and if you invest properly, Ninetales should not be OHKOd by a Surf from Slowbro.

I was going to invest some EV's into the defence but after a bit of discussion it seemed that straight 252/252 could be for the best.

Any recommendation for a good EV spread?

Ok well I think this is the first thread that I've created. I hope it goes well .

As the title says this is one of my odd sweeps. Which I'm getting a lot of lately ...

In order of appearance:

Tbird

miketoocool34

So yeah that's one of my weird sweeps. I know I made ALOT of bad moves there, but I was panicking and what not. Just glad it all came together in the end.

Any thoughts?

Thanks for reading. Critique however you see fit. I know there's a million and one mistakes in there.

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