ZMaster Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Does anyone know of an effective Pokémon that can counter a strategy involving Baton Pass?
Greencat Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Speedy Taunters like Azelf. You could also try Haze, Roar and/or Whirlwind.
ZMaster Posted April 28, 2009 Author Posted April 28, 2009 Roar would knock the Pokémon out, even if they use protect, right?
Greencat Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Err, Roar causes them to switch (Won't work on Sound Proof, Pokemon that used Wrap/Bind/etc. and possibly even Subs) there Pokemon and this eliminates the boosts built up. Same for Whirlwind.
Enkidu Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Yea, Anything with Roar/Haze does that well. the only thing you need to watch out for is the someone faster than you also using roar ( which makes Haze a MUCH better choice here. ) While roar/Whirlwind does make short work of baton pass chains, Ingrain and suction cup pokemon ruin that attempt. So I would just use Haze. it may seem like a waste of a moveslot as you shouldn't need to use it very often but its worth it when the scenario arises. Roar/Whirlwind does not work through protect, but all protecting does is waste a turn as even if they attack/Switch it will phaze out the pokemon ( except in the case of Ingrain/Suction cups/Soundproof ) Just make sure to give it to something bulky enough to take a boosted hit.
ZMaster Posted April 29, 2009 Author Posted April 29, 2009 The reason is, I want to counter a Ninjask - Baton Pass - Rampardos. I want to be able to skewer his insect, and then continue my sweeping with his overly slow Rampardos.
Destati Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 What you need is an Anti-Lead. A Pokemon with Taunt or Trick. Jirachi, Azelf, Metagross, Weavile, there's a lot.
ZMaster Posted April 29, 2009 Author Posted April 29, 2009 But, I can't be sure if he will use Ninjask first. There is a high chance, because if he doesn't, I will destroy half his team already, if he doesn't throw out Ninjask first.
randomspot555 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 But, I can't be sure if he will use Ninjask first. There is a high chance, because if he doesn't, I will destroy half his team already, if he doesn't throw out Ninjask first. Baton Pass is almost always an early game strategy. Most BP are weak to (stealth) rock, and since that's laid down at the beginning, that's when BP will be attempted. Some Pokemon, like Jolteon, will attempt a "dry" Baton Pass (passing nothing) in hope to escape Pursuit and/or switch to a resistant/immune Pokemon, depending on the attack they predict. Stealth Rock basically eliminates a late game Baton Pass. Taunt/Trick can cripple BP users, as well as some priority attacks.
ZMaster Posted April 29, 2009 Author Posted April 29, 2009 Baton Pass is almost always an early game strategy. Most BP are weak to (stealth) rock, and since that's laid down at the beginning, that's when BP will be attempted. Some Pokemon, like Jolteon, will attempt a "dry" Baton Pass (passing nothing) in hope to escape Pursuit and/or switch to a resistant/immune Pokemon, depending on the attack they predict. Stealth Rock basically eliminates a late game Baton Pass. Taunt/Trick can cripple BP users, as well as some priority attacks. Alright, thanks guys. Weavile will be my Taunt priority/lead. What would be some good tanks to destroy a team after Ninjask fails? Also, my Kingdra will be one of them.
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