Shuckie legality

[NormalTimes]

Shuckle its marked as illegal when i know totally legal also my shuckle also is spanish maybe the difference is only in the english versions

[theSLAYER]

11 hours ago, NormalTimes said:

Shuckle its marked as illegal when i know totally legal also my shuckle also is spanish maybe the difference is only in the english versions

please upload the shuckie file.

[NormalTimes]

this only happens with the soul silver shuckle 

213 - Caparazz - D079000214D7.pk4

[theSLAYER]

2 hours ago, NormalTimes said:

this only happens with the soul silver shuckle 

213 - Caparazz - D079000214D7.pk4

I just tested my SoulSilver Shuckie, and it's fine tho.

@Kaphotics should take a look at this. (maybe language implementation wasn't handled correctly?)

[Kaphotics]

I think instead of it being version specific as previously thought:

It's likely OT gender specific (inverted player gender)? Since player OT is never saved to the data, it means either PID encounter is not version specific.

new EncounterTradePID { Species = 213, Ability = 2, TID = 04336, SID = 00001, OTGender = 0, Gender = 0, IVs = new[] {15,20,15,20,20,20}, PID = 0x000214D7, Level = 20, Location = 130, Moves = new[]{132,117,227,219}, Version = GameVersion.HG },// Kirk's Shuckle
new EncounterTradePID { Species = 213, Ability = 2, TID = 04336, SID = 00001, OTGender = 0, Gender = 1, IVs = new[] {15,20,15,20,20,20}, PID = 0x00020003, Level = 20, Location = 130, Moves = new[]{132,117,227,219}, Version = GameVersion.SS },// Kirk's Shuckle

Try removing the Version restriction at the end, recompile, and it should work?

[theSLAYER]

4 hours ago, Kaphotics said:

I think instead of it being version specific as previously thought:

It's likely OT gender specific (inverted player gender)? Since player OT is never saved to the data, it means either PID encounter is not version specific.

new EncounterTradePID { Species = 213, Ability = 2, TID = 04336, SID = 00001, OTGender = 0, Gender = 0, IVs = new[] {15,20,15,20,20,20}, PID = 0x000214D7, Level = 20, Location = 130, Moves = new[]{132,117,227,219}, Version = GameVersion.HG },// Kirk's Shuckle
new EncounterTradePID { Species = 213, Ability = 2, TID = 04336, SID = 00001, OTGender = 0, Gender = 1, IVs = new[] {15,20,15,20,20,20}, PID = 0x00020003, Level = 20, Location = 130, Moves = new[]{132,117,227,219}, Version = GameVersion.SS },// Kirk's Shuckle

Try removing the Version restriction at the end, recompile, and it should work?

I think that both Shuckies are from the same save file (just swapped between games).

I could reconfirm it tho, are there any specifics you'll like me to test?

EDIT 1
This is from SoulSilver. Male and female OT of the save obtained the same Shuckie.
(It was a Male save, but I turned it female before redeeming it.)
213 - Shuckie - C2D700020003.pk4

EDIT 2
This Shuckie is from HeartGold, both Male and Female received the same Shuckie
(Once again, was the same save as the SoulSilver save. The male was edited to female before redeeming it)
213 - Shuckie - C1D5000214D7.pk4

[Kaphotics]

5 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

I think that both Shuckies are from the same save file (just swapped between games).

I could reconfirm it tho, are there any specifics you'll like me to test?

EDIT 1
This is from SoulSilver. Male and female OT of the save obtained the same Shuckie.
(It was a Male save, but I turned it female before redeeming it.)
213 - Shuckie - C2D700020003.pk4

EDIT 2
This Shuckie is from HeartGold, both Male and Female received the same Shuckie
(Once again, was the same save as the SoulSilver save. The male was edited to female before redeeming it)
213 - Shuckie - C1D5000214D7.pk4

So what's the verdict for this topic?

[theSLAYER]

17 minutes ago, Kaphotics said:

So what's the verdict for this topic?

Based on my experience, the Shuckies are game specific, as changed the gender didn't change the Shuckie received.

I'm wondering if this was swapped when the Shuckies were redeemed on different languages.
I probably could run a test of redeeming Shuckies on other languages.

EDIT 1:
Spanish HeartGold Male and Female trainer obtain the same Shuckie, and they're legal.
213 - Caparazz - CA7C000214D7.pk4

Spanish SoulSilver Male and Female trainer obtain the same Shuckie, and PKHeX flags it as illegal.
213 - Caparazz - CB7C000214D7.pk4