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Is ladias with love baii and defog move legal? Or can ladias catched with apricorn ball in hg/ss transferred to d/p/pt so that it can learn defog?

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38 minutes ago, dwq said:

Is ladias with love baii and defog move legal? Or can ladias catched with apricorn ball in hg/ss transferred to d/p/pt so that it can learn defog?

Latias encountered in wild:
Capture.PNG

Gen 4 -> 5 Transfer:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Poké_Transfer

" Also, Pokémon that know HM moves cannot be transferred. "

However:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Defog_(move)

" If a player teaches a Pokémon Defog by HM in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum and trades it to HeartGold or SoulSilver, the Pokémon can be freely imported to Black and White via the Poké Transfer, due to Defog not being needed outside of battle in HeartGold and SoulSilver. The same can be done with Whirlpool by transferring a Pokémon that learned it by HM in HeartGold or SoulSilver to Diamond, Pearl, or Platinum. "

 

Draw the necessary conclusions by the data I provided :)

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3 hours ago, theSLAYER said:

Latias encountered in wild:
Capture.PNG

Gen 4 -> 5 Transfer:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Poké_Transfer

" Also, Pokémon that know HM moves cannot be transferred. "

However:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Defog_(move)

" If a player teaches a Pokémon Defog by HM in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum and trades it to HeartGold or SoulSilver, the Pokémon can be freely imported to Black and White via the Poké Transfer, due to Defog not being needed outside of battle in HeartGold and SoulSilver. The same can be done with Whirlpool by transferring a Pokémon that learned it by HM in HeartGold or SoulSilver to Diamond, Pearl, or Platinum. "

 

Draw the necessary conclusions by the data I provided :)

The key problem is whether pokemon with apricorn ball can be traded to d/p/pt since i heard there seem to be no such data about apricorn ball in d/p/pt before. If those pokemon can be traded,what kind of ball it will be? If not, ladias with love ball and defog move is illegal.that's what i want to know most. ANYWAY, thanks for your reply!

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11 minutes ago, dwq said:

The key problem is whether pokemon with apricorn ball can be traded to d/p/pt since i heard there seem to be no such data about apricorn ball in d/p/pt before. If those pokemon can be traded,what kind of ball it will be? If not, ladias with love ball and defog move is illegal.that's what i want to know most. ANYWAY, thanks for your reply!

Well, this goes into a slightly different topic,
HGSS uses different bytes from DPPt to determine ball caught (86h),
so when traded between DPPt and HGSS, the ball data is actually kept between trading.
(think back how you can trade Pokemon with Held Item from GSC to RBY and back, and it still holds the item)

PKHeX is handling the balls correctly, based on origin cartridge.

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45 minutes ago, theSLAYER said:

Well, this goes into a slightly different topic,
HGSS uses different bytes from DPPt to determine ball caught (86h),
so when traded between DPPt and HGSS, the ball data is actually kept between trading.
(think back how you can trade Pokemon with Held Item from GSC to RBY and back, and it still holds the item)

PKHeX is handling the balls correctly, based on origin cartridge.

Thank you! I understand.

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