Starters in Sinnoh: Which one to choose

[pokemonfan]

What! You know not all people approve of pokesav's ways!

[damio]

I do know that.

And I never said people had to approve.

I just said that people who use it are just taking easy street.

[Enkidu]

If you choose chimchar, you are just being lazy for all of the gyms.

If you use pokesav, you are just being smart for the rest of the game.

If by lazy, you mean he's the best starter to pick as it makes the game easier for you ( assuming you know how to use infernape ) then yes.

[damio]

If by lazy, you mean he's the best starter to pick as it makes the game easier for you ( assuming you know how to use infernape ) then yes.

That is what i implied, yes..

[Tsukasa]

Lol, Piplup sucks.

You keep talking about how Infernape's Fighting Type doesn't cover it's water weakness, but you have to think of it the same way as well.

Empoleon's steel-type doesn't prove helpful to Empoleon at all either. It gives it in additional weakness to Fighting-type attacks, and also removes it's resistance to Fire-type attacks.

And this wasn't mentioned, but the Fighting subtype's weakness to Psychic types is also easily covered by the fact that Infernape can learn U-Turn via TM.

[pokemonfan]

I know that steel doesn't help empoleon cover weaknesses. Isn't that the same for all starters? Well I know mudkip when it evolves it covers an electric weakness. I chose mudkip in sapphire! Water starters rule!

[damio]

U-Turn may protect Infernape's psychic weakness, but you may as well just switch it out.

[Tsukasa]

Yea, that's true, lol.

Was just saying for the sake of argument.

[pokemonfan]

Oh so now we are spurring it on! Great...could you click on this I've been trying to end the argument it is quite clear who is winning so what is the point anymore.

[damio]

pokemonfan, just because you think you are right, does not mean you are.

Results can change.

We are arguing so if someone doesn't know what starter to choose, they can weigh out the Pro's and Con's of each of the starters and decide from that.

[Tsukasa]

lol, cute thread you got there.

I may have been arguing in favor of Chimchar, but I normally choose Piplup myself.

Although I still believe that Piplup's Steel subtype ruins the Type Triangle for starters (Fire>Grass>Water>Fire)

[pokemonfan]

pokemonfan, just because you think you are right, does not mean you are.

Results can change.

We are arguing so if someone doesn't know what starter to choose, they can weigh out the Pro's and Con's of each of the starters and decide from that.

I think we have quite covered that though. Great points by enkidu, you, me and several others have brought this into a very informational thread. The problem is that the information is scattered about so why not end the argument now so that someone can collect the information and put it into a useful, organized, well flowing guide! Click here to help stop the debate!

Additionally, I know I'm not always right I just think I make good points like many others.

[damio]

lol, cute thread you got there.

I may have been arguing in favor of Chimchar, but I normally choose Piplup myself.

Although I still believe that Piplup's Steel subtype ruins the Type Triangle for starters (Fire>Grass>Water>Fire)

But, so does Turtwig's ground subtype.

[pokemonfan]

OK then, I haven't heard of the "Type triangle" could someone please kindly inform me on this?

[damio]

All the starters are always; Water, Fire or Grass

Water is strong to Fire

Fire is strong to Grass

Grass is strong to Water

and so on and so forth.

[pokemonfan]

Yes I know that, so then why does the steel type addition mess up things? Plus why does the ground type addition mess with things?

[damio]

Steel makes it so fire is effective to the water starter.

Ground makes it so that grass is effective to the water starter.

[pokemonfan]

Steel makes it so fire is effective to the water starter.

Ground makes it so that grass is effective to the water starter.

You mean ineffective to water starter. because grass is superior to water already, and with the added ground type does that make it weak to the water starter?

[HottSushiz]

but I chose Turtwig because Grotle reminds me of Spike from those Land Before Time movies I used to watch when younger.

I think it ended up being a good choice.

Ah brings back memories, i also thought that too, but i didn't think anyone watched it, so i didn't bring it up.

You don't really need any form of strategy to defeat the in-game trainers, just a high leveled Pokemon, and some neutral, or super effective moves, and you've won.

[damio]

Ah brings back memories, i also thought that too, but i didn't think anyone watched it, so i didn't bring it up.

You don't really need any form of strategy to defeat the in-game trainers, just a high leveled Pokemon, and some neutral, or super effective moves, and you've won.

I watched it

For all games, you can get any starter to level 100, and it doesn't matter who you face in game, you will win.

[Greencat]

Mouse slipped and I choose Piplup based off of guide. I like Piplup, but it may be because it has my favorite type, steel.

[pokemonfan]

Ok then, so you are not for piplup. Darn! That is a shame.

[damio]

Ok then, so you are not for piplup. Darn! That is a shame.

Can you even read?

He said that he voted for piplup.

[pokemonfan]

Oh, I miss interpreted that. I thought by when he/she said that he/she had their hand slip up with the mouse and vote for piplup I thought...Darn, he/she really doesn't support piplup. Now I realize that he/she liked piplup because of evolutions and would have chosen it with or without the guide. That was my first initial interpretation.

Plus for the reading part of your post: I can read but you dont know my age and my skill level in the arts of such skills as reading and writing. For all you know I could be 9 years old or maybe I'm older then you. You don't know! So I dont believe that it is fair of you to ask such a thing...mostly because it is quite obvious that I can read!

[damio]

Oh, I miss interpreted that. I thought by when he/she said that he/she had their hand slip up with the mouse and vote for piplup I thought...Darn, he/she really doesn't support piplup. Now I realize that he/she liked piplup because of evolutions and would have chosen it with or without the guide. That was my first initial interpretation.

Plus for the reading part of your post: I can read but you dont know my age and my skill level in the arts of such skills as reading and writing. For all you know I could be 9 years old or maybe I'm older then you. You don't know! So I dont believe that it is fair of you to ask such a thing...mostly because it is quite obvious that I can read!

It was a joke.

I know you can read.

But I was simply using a rhetorical question to point out that you didn't read his post correctly.

Go do some research on Persuasive Techniques

Anyway, W00T more piplup votes.