crimson assassin

dude you honestly have no idea what you are talking about do you latias doesn't ohko something it cant outspeed with +2 rhyperior outspeeds it and beside the fact it's not a wasted move slot even without toxic it is still effective bob you are the one giving not just bad but stupid yeah stupid advice because you are sitting back here not trying to help you are attempting to argue with me on something your wrong on so your even more pissed ok first stone edge's accuarcy isnt bad it is what 80 so that means you have 2 chances out of 10 to miss. next we are talking a rock polisher set so you need to think in terms of if rhyperior has a rock polish up and this is in the same metagame people run hypnosis and focus blast so you can honestly be quite with this half thought through comment. ok so lets start with this. a +2 polish rhyperior ohko's gyarados everytime even without rock with stone edge fun fact a no attack evs stone edge even after intimidate ohkos gyarados now to breloom it 2hit ko's rhyperior but it wont happen before you 2 hit ko it so there is no way it can leech seed stall you and this is if you run facade or megahorn next latias is outsped by jolly rock polisher and ohko'd by megahorn reason to completly disregard facade for megahorn is if you want to hit bronzong with him and I never said it was bad it's just not reliable lead for a rain team because it may take to much work to get rain up with all the taunter with electrode you are guarenteed rain no if ands or buts about it now unless you have a valid argument don't respond because once again I know far more about probably all the metagames than you do and i've actually used all the pokemon I reccomend (barring the heal bell dragonite even though i'm trying it now) learn the game before you try and argue with me deal? pm me if you have anything else dumb to add dont flame this thread with you half though through comments

GG your side comments were hit and miss you played great your opponent however played very badly like who explodes on a luvdic with no direct attack to hurt it when you have +2 speed which is more than enough to outspeed it and just kill it off with Eq or meteor mash lol red gyarados slayer:) I'm going to guess none of you opposing players have just attacked luvdisc they always try setting up first?

not really because that was an example why would i facade a gyarados when i could ohko it with a stone edge? lol

ok it doesn't get helpful coverage huh? after being toxiced it ohkos standard breloom, 2hko latias, and after SR 2hits gyarados with the intimidate up so how do you figure the ability to check your counters useless after toxic facade has a base power of 140 which is way stronger than megahorn and resisted by only steel, rock, and ghost all 3 of which are easily handle by either stone edge or EQ so please explain how it doesn't have type coverage? Ok and you comment about no reason to use it is just rediclious thats like saying don't run megahorn because it doesn't get stab.

T-bird brozong isn't a good set up lead because 9/10 it will be taunted and you have just wasted a pokemon he is fine for a secondary set up but not a lead. A lead should get the job done and fast and thats what electrode does and electrode can be quite desruptive in the process and that is why I suggested him. suscide leads don't sweep but they do get the job done and thats pretty much what electrode is. and honestly does it help to have stealth rocks if you can't use them? I'd rather have EQ in that SR slot but maybe thats just me and t-bird electrode isn't here to sweep it is for quick rain set up guarenteeded rain set up and let others sweep he is more of a suscide lead. electrode acutally tears down ghost and latias in OU as he get sucker punch (somehow) plus stab thunders and thunderbolts rip through bulky water types and explosion can run through a lot of pokemon. You shouldn't put down a pokemon based upon base stats use an electrode first then tell me it's not good And by the way hp ice electrode can help sweep in OU.

team 2 has a problem it has 2 4x weaknesses to grass which we dont want so i recomend droping rhyperior frome team 2 because having 2 pokemon that can be droped by 1 move is not good or at lease if you are going to keep it put rock polish not SD he is gonna need speed he already has power and why does it have superpower everything superpower hits for Super effective damage so does EQ (barring normal types which he can easily 2 hko anyway). and avalance really isnt needed for anything either as he gets megahorn for latias and salamence, dragonite, and gyarados are all killed off by a stone edge not to mention he has the option of running facade which is a set i made was facade rhypeior it also him to make the best of a very bad situation and turning toxic, para hax, or other status placed on your rhyperior into a deadly weapom changes are in bold Rhyperior@Life Orb Nature: Adamant EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Def - megahorn/facade - Earthquake - Stone Edge - rock polish

I like the way t-bird thinks:) Oh and in terms of a wall I would probably go with gastrodon or rotom-w both are amazing walls gastrdon hmeats opponets hits depending on how you ev it it can even take grass attacks and rotom gives immunity to ground(barring rampardos and pinsir because of mold breaker), elec, fighting, poison, steel, and bug so this guy is just all around great

Ok lets do this and let's be sure to get this right so you will be ready to sweep with your rain dance team now most people are 1. you lead wont cut it in OU half the time as OUhas way to many taunters just pick something fast enough to get the job done and possible even stop rocks on his own electrode@damp rock hasty~soundproof 252 Atk / 48 SpA / 208 Spe ~ Rain Dance ~ Explosion ~ Taunt ~ Thunder 252 Atk / 48 SpA / 208 Spe fast and while not very solid he get the job done in a hurry outspeeding even the fastest pokemon in OU makes him the best rain dancer in the game no if ands or buts about it it is impossible to taunt something you are slower than. not to mention he can taunt other annoying leads like aerodactyl, bronzong, or gengar 2.throwing out kingdra but only as a special attacker why not mixed it is fully capable of destroying entire teams single handedly instead of being completly owned by OU's claim to fame blissey so insted of your kingdra set i reccomend. kingdra@life orb Naughty~swift swim 252 Atk / 240 SpA / 16 Spe ~ dragon dance ~ Waterfall ~ Hydro Pump / Surf ~ Draco Meteor 252 Atk / 240 SpA / 16 Spe this guy clocks is at 210 speed wise with no rain so now lets give him rain support and that is 420 easily enough to outspeed the entire OU metagame then not to mention how much faster he will get after a dragon dance he has 466 just thinking about it is scary this guy is able to blow holes in skarmory while still tearing down blissey 317 attack and 284 spatk makes one short match for your opponent if you can get this guy in and set up and the nicest part is he can still do damage after rain is gone. 3. people saying omastar being bulky gives him a better chance to set up RD than kingdra isn't true kingdra can set it up better by far because of the fact it only has 1 weakness while omastar has about 4 (grass, fighting, eletric, ground) one of which is 4x so no rain dance on hime his job should be an attacker and maybe a hazer he can help out a lot when it comes to this hazing omastar has saved me so many times you wouldnt believe it the ability to cancel out stat changes and sweep should not be taken for granted Jirachi@Damp Rock Nature: timid EVs: 252 HP / 80 SpA / 176 Spe - Rain dance - psychic/water pulse/U-turn - Thunder - wish second rain dance set up will absorb kingdra's one and only wakness and can keep getting rain dance up the entire game thanks to wish he can stay nice and healthy evire is fine you just better hope you can pull off a motor drive you need to replace siczor siczor is good but it can just be thrown onto any team just because it is siczor and whoever reccomended CB set look at his team it can't function with a cb siczor a SD siczor or roost siczor is best for here as his team is already dependant upon rain why make a sweeper dependant on a choice anything

Honestly it's not hard you can get them legit with great ivs I have plenty legit flawless Ubers and legends here just google: pokemon rng smogon it's something one of our members mingot discovered and it makes catching and breeding legit flawless shinies and ubers easy I'm competing in the VGC tourny this year and my team so far is undeafeated in all it's test matches so i'm ready to go I gotta fly from Nebraska to pheonix however this isn't true at all a simple fake out pokemon with say a metagross explosion lead or a protect explosion lead easily takes both of these out main thing to worry about is smeargle leads with dark void, quiet dailga and brave t-tar leads because if they manage to pull a TR it's game. Mewtwo and latias is a deadly combination, but the absolute number 1 pokemon you do not ever want to play against is Lugia it is so bulky that without a reflect it can live a max attack adamant metagross explosion plus it can be a calm mind attack toxic staller anything is possible with this gal from attacking to dual screening however blissey is good in uber doubles but not here since most mewtwo's will be packing self-destruct for that very reason but dont let that stop you from running her blissey can be a good asset to anyteam in fact I'm running a psych up blissey it is the greatest thing ever especially when it picks up calm minds with psych up then it slows down my opponents with icy wind

Nope I don't mind at all that's why I posted it you know I'm really hope these changes have worked out for you if you need any pokes for a wifi team just pm me and I'll breed you a legit flawless one

why do you have nothing but OU's man this actually leave you open to alot of UU assaults and you are gonna be supprised at what I say but your team will be raped completly by an agility marrowack

oh and miss Im sorry for assuming you were a male just english language says if you dont know someones sex assume male so thats what Im doing hope i didnt offend you

Bob no it's not that set you listed is absolutely a waste especially when as i said it has access to synthesis which is 10x better since this isn't a bulky shaymin. Man, you have no idea how wrong you are hp ice/earth power/ air slash/ seed flare is way better than set you listed hp fire is nice I run it on one of my shaymins on my wifi team (legit rng abused) it is nice but not better than air slash only way it is better is in the fact that it kills siczor other than that air slash outclasses it by far because not only does it have the 30% flinch but it is stronger and gains more notable ohkos like heracross, machamp, and gallade things of that nature while taking care of other grass types so it checks bugs/fighting/grass while hp fire helps it doesnt ko most of the things it his for se damage and since earth power (barring some bronzongs) checks steels it is no need for hp fire unless you are really that scared of siczor. hp ice is better killing dragons that would otherwise give her shaymin problems/ earth power checks steels, fire, and poison types/ seed flare water types, rock types, and ground types/ air slash bugs, ghting types, a other grass types now if anyone would further like to debate this topic pm me but lets not flame her thread with topics we all know i'm right on.lol yeah we are here to rebuild the team if we see some where we can improve her team thats what raters do.lol I don't mind building someone a team from the ground up I've done it a bunch of times from NU team-up to ubers double teams you don't have to if you don't want to but i will continue to assist everyone here

Umm but why have abomasnow here it's not helping anything but one other pokemon on his team other than that it's hurting him

No problem. Only reason I say change espeon is ttarvwalls your current one actually any dark type hurts you and wins in a 1 on 1 so hp ice is for dragon coverage of course psychic stabb and signal beam dark types and other psychics when bumped with calm mind can be deadly and for infernape naive is needed because it still boost speed just as jolly nature would except it doesn't take away any spatk which you need as much as you can get for mixed attacker so just stay with naive trust me it's best